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Newt Gingrich will not be the Republican nominee even if it means a brokered convention
The Washington Post ^ | 12/09/2011 | Ezra Klein

Posted on 12/09/2011 5:56:49 PM PST by katiedidit1

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To: floridarunner01

>> If Romney loses the primaries and they push him in with the convention...

Now that would be playing with fire.


51 posted on 12/09/2011 6:46:43 PM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jets.)
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To: katiedidit1
There can't be a brokered convention with two candidates. One or the other will have a majority of the delegates. There can be a brokered convention with three or more candidates. Say candidate one has 45% of the Delegates. Where candidate Two has 35% of the delegates candidate three has 20% of the delegates. None of the three candidates have a majority of the delegates. Candidates Two and Three get togather and broker their delegates to achieve 55% of the delegates. One of them offers the other something in return for him/her releasing his delegates.
52 posted on 12/09/2011 6:47:25 PM PST by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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To: katiedidit1

This only increases support for Newt. The grass roots HATES the establishment Dims and Repubics.


53 posted on 12/09/2011 6:47:31 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: katiedidit1
I heard Vice-President Dan Quayle talk about the possibililty of a brokered convention on Michael Medved’s show. The way the primaries are loaded, someone could come in late and deny the necessary delegates to win the nomination on the first ballot. The last brokered convention in the US was in 1952, when the Democratic Party nominated Adlai Stevenson. Quayle was not sure it won't happen again for the Republicans August 27th. However, we all know that Dan Quayle endorsed Mitt Romney for President. He said he gave his endorsement to Mitt because “he was the most conservative and the most electable of the candidates.” I was hoping he would have said something nice about Governor Rick Perry. Given the treatment Dan Quayle received for a minor gaff with the word potato, I can understand his perspective when looking at Perry and some of the other candidates.

I am hoping that we don't have a brokered convention because of the effects of the competition we are seeing. Such lack of consensus would really impact the grassroot support that Republican nominees would need to get elected. We will need to unite very strong to defeat Obama’s war machine.

I am also hoping that we don't come to the convention with the delegates deciding that none of the candidates will be acceptable. That would mean that a candidate would have to be drafted at the convention. Such a candidate would need to raise funding quickly to overcome the $billion + war chest that Obama has raised.

We need to understand that whoever is the nominee, they have to be electable. The way the present crop of candidates have handled their negatives, I have great worry that none of them will be electable if they don't start neutralizing those negatives soon.

54 posted on 12/09/2011 6:50:39 PM PST by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: jonrick46

So far there is only ONE republican candidate that has not run a negative campaign and that is Newt


55 posted on 12/09/2011 6:54:35 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1

At the end of the day, voters will vote their pocketbooks and wallets and go for the candidate with the best economic and jobs creation record -— Rick Perry.

Plus he also has the advantage of being a social conservative, a military veteran and a down to earth communicator (gaffs notwithstanding).


56 posted on 12/09/2011 6:57:51 PM PST by varina davis (We grow too soon old and too late smart -- Pennsylvania Dutch adage)
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To: Grunthor

Agreed and agreed.


57 posted on 12/09/2011 7:02:02 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: katiedidit1

My point really is that we have to do the fighting as well, not just Newt. We have to get out there, and educate our friends, and associates on what is happening, and the necessity for them to pay attention, and participate, and why Newt.

There has been a lot of disinformation over the years. A lot of current disinformation, and out, and out lies, and there will be even more. We have to be at the forefront of the cleanup crew cleaning up the mess spewed by the enemy of our Sovereignty, our Constitution, our way of life, and that is what we are fighting.

It has to be overwhelming, unanimous, thorough, and complete to thwart the Dem, Lib, Socialist, RINO establishment, and regain the system.


58 posted on 12/09/2011 7:03:23 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: katiedidit1

What I have seen from Newt is very impressive. It shows that he has learned a great deal over the course of the years in the political arena. Let’s hope he has learned enough so he can convert the negative image people have of him to the positive image he has shown so far to the few who pay attention.


59 posted on 12/09/2011 7:03:28 PM PST by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: katiedidit1

Romney means 3rd party....a strong 3rd party....but hey they do not call us the “Stupid Party” for nothing.


60 posted on 12/09/2011 7:06:32 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Longbow1969
"If Newt continues improving as a candidate and wins the nomination, the "establishment" will fall in line."

Unfortunately, several of the republican elites and know-it-alls are in control of PACs with lots of bucks, like Rove. I'm not so certain they will fall in line and release the money unless the nominee is Romney.

I hope my suspicions are wrong.

61 posted on 12/09/2011 7:06:32 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: katiedidit1

Do that and the GOP is done. If true, it proves that the game is rigged.


62 posted on 12/09/2011 7:08:38 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: katiedidit1

Do that and the GOP is done. If true, it proves that the game is rigged.


63 posted on 12/09/2011 7:08:51 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

If that happens, they will sink all their money into trying to take control of the Senate.


64 posted on 12/09/2011 7:12:05 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: katiedidit1
Newt is the candidate that will turn Ameirca around and back to prosperity

Even if he wins, he will have a Democrat controlled House and Senate, (I consider Crybaby Boehner a Democrat plant). If he were to push conservative programs, he will get nowhere. The only thing he will be successful at would be his usual "reaching across the aisle" and getting progressive programs, like amnesty, passed. This, of course, would end any chance of turning the Country around.

Gingrich will have short coattails. There will be no surge of enthusiastic conservative voters to support Gingrich. A lot of those voting for him will be "holding their nose". This does not portend well for congressional races.

If it has to be Gingrich, the real question is what will he try to, or be able to, do to improve the mess we're in. Which Gingrich will be dominant, the big idea, big government Gingrich or the new conservative sounding Gingrich.

No matter what happens, scary times ahead.

65 posted on 12/09/2011 7:12:05 PM PST by Prokopton (.)
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To: katiedidit1; All
This writer is The Journolist (he started and propagated the Journalist, he probably does it in another form today), the one who sponsors the memes against conservatives, the one who destroys all good things about this country in service of his God of liberal Marxism. He's a young punk who knows nothing but smarminess, and really, rally hates us.

Why in the world would anyone on FR believe a word he says?

66 posted on 12/09/2011 7:17:22 PM PST by Lakeshark
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To: PapaNew
Thanks, here's a clicksable link.

It's only a minute long.

We are yearning for another Reagan

Thanks for the link, it did delight my heart.

67 posted on 12/09/2011 7:30:28 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: FrankR

Holy Crap, can anyone say, “Light in the loafers!” I’ve seen faggy looking AH’s before but this guy takes the prize!


68 posted on 12/09/2011 7:32:46 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: rockinqsranch

Some of the posters here and the writer are just wrong. If I recall correctly delegates MUST vote for who their state chose, in the event that after 1 or 2 ballots no one is picked then the delegates are released and then the real fight starts.

For example, if a lot of delegates were TEA Party types they could vote for Sarah.


69 posted on 12/09/2011 7:51:11 PM PST by stockpirate (Our republican leadership are all part of the left-wing fascist new world order movement.)
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To: katiedidit1

If You are anti-Newt and pro tea party then expect the others to not drop out until the voting begins if that. Newt would have to really run away for them to drop. I think many are waiting to see what happens because if Newt implodes then they all have a chance. Not just my opinion, Rush said this as well. He said the candidates aren’t ready to drop because they feel Newt might implode.


70 posted on 12/09/2011 8:06:31 PM PST by Mozilla
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To: katiedidit1

The Left is scared sh*tless and is starting to get hysterical.


71 posted on 12/09/2011 8:31:23 PM PST by MNnice
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To: katiedidit1

This makes me like Newt a little more.


72 posted on 12/09/2011 9:36:25 PM PST by pallis
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To: katiedidit1
This time is excessively anxious or seems that way from our over-politiced perspectives.
73 posted on 12/09/2011 9:57:55 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: katiedidit1

Newt made a lot of enemies in his own party while the Speaker. A take-no-prisoners attitude may win in the short run, but???


74 posted on 12/10/2011 12:28:45 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: preamble

Just think of how much money Palin is saving by waiting ‘till the convention to declare her candidacy.


75 posted on 12/10/2011 1:20:44 AM PST by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: katiedidit1

The results of a brokered convention?

Jeb Bush for President.

Sarah Palin for Vice-President.


76 posted on 12/10/2011 3:26:02 AM PST by bigoil (Study Thy Nixon)
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To: katiedidit1

Go Sarah Go


77 posted on 12/10/2011 4:03:41 AM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now, and in the future)
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To: bigoil

Jebbie Bush/Palin: that’s a ticket I could definitely reject.


78 posted on 12/10/2011 7:55:52 AM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for Santorum if he is on the March 6 ballot.)
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To: katiedidit1

Nice try schmuck but brokered conventions went out in the 1950s. Nobody will be even remotely close enough to Newt to have anyone but Tokyo Rove dreaming about one. Gingrich was not my first choice but the reality is that unless they come up with a video of Newt with a sheep there is no way Willard can catch him and we KNOW none of this stupid wishful thinking is about getting Perry, Bachmann or Santorum the nod.


79 posted on 12/10/2011 8:05:05 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: katiedidit1

LOL. As if WAPO really knows anything about anything. Their articles are all anti-conservative psy-ops and wishful thinking posing as news.


80 posted on 12/10/2011 8:10:00 AM PST by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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To: Indy Pendance

Paul Ryan is just 41. That’s very young to run and, frankly, he’ll be desperately needed as chair of the budget committee if Republicans keep the House and should even a Republican become president in 2013.


81 posted on 12/10/2011 10:12:25 AM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama and Speaker Pelosi.)
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To: katiedidit1

A brokered convention may help Perry. Newt has problems
as does Mitt.


82 posted on 12/10/2011 10:28:06 AM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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