Put Newt or anybody else aside for a moment...
I'm struck by this. With the top priorities and problems facing our country (Economy, Jobs, Debt, Iran, etc...), I can't for the life of me understand how a candidate's past martial issues can be the biggest hang up for a voter. Are you kidding me?!
Back to Newt...
Jen Green explained that the doubters worried about the affairs and the seeming lack of public repentance for them, and felt that Gingrich hadnt done enough to restore their faith in him.
Really? Newt's acknowledged - publicly and often - his marital indiscretions and has stated that he's asked for forgiveness and reconciliation with his god. What else do they want? Should he provide them a sacrifice on the alter? Perhaps the guy should agree to subject himself to several rounds of intense corporal mortification. Would that do it for these people?
Granted, I'm not the most religiously versed. But, it was understanding that forgiveness was to be given without extracting a price. But then again - what do I know?
1 posted on
12/02/2011 5:15:04 PM PST by
TBBT
To: TBBT
Ignoring the evils of men is how we arrived at these problems in the first place. Continue to ignore them and not only will the problems continue, they will get worse. That is not forgiveness, it is contributary hypocrisy.
2 posted on
12/02/2011 5:22:40 PM PST by
MestaMachine
(obama kills)
To: TBBT
Everybody has feet of clay. When it comes to my salvation, I did my part: I SINNED. Jesus did the rest and it is a free gift. Christians know this. I don't deserve to go to heaven, not by a long shot. But I accepted the free gift and guess what? I'm still a sinner! So is Newt. So is this Jen Green. I'll cut Newt a break and so will most Evangelicals, because they know that risking Obama for another term is just inviting the Anti Christ home to roooooooost! And Obama ain't the anti Christ but I'll bet he gives him a big hug and another apology.
5 posted on
12/02/2011 5:28:55 PM PST by
ExSoldier
("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
To: TBBT
Heard the maha rushie himself say many years ago - it is one thing to offer someone mercy, grace, forgiveness - but — but they still have to deal with the consequences of their crime or sin — and in this case the consequences for newt are that his past behaviors now disqualify him for this high office.
To: TBBT
7 posted on
12/02/2011 5:31:52 PM PST by
Fred
(On Newt Gingrich - He' s a sociopath, but heÂ’s our sociopath)
To: TBBT
The marriage crap is just a head fake. My guess is if Newt claimed to be a Mormon forgiveness would be less in style. Newts problems will be on full display for the millions of voters under 60 who have no idea who he is if he manages to get the chance to face Boy Wonder. The debate blather is also a head fake. Anyone who watches these debates will see another white haired overweight geezer telling The young Prince to get off of his lawn. Newt is McCain 2 without the respect for his service.
8 posted on
12/02/2011 5:33:46 PM PST by
fantom
(,)
To: TBBT
Ross Perot said it well when he was asked why he fired an employee for infidelity - “If your wife can’t trust you, why should I?”
12 posted on
12/02/2011 5:44:06 PM PST by
posterchild
(I'm old enough to remember when journalists bothered to look things up on wikipedia.)
To: TBBT
It’s not a religious aspect for me. In fact, I always pretty much enjoyed hearing what Gingrich had to say, in speeches or as a pundit, even though he often went off the rails in recent years quite often. He’s certainly been great in these debates. But the scuzziness IS a problem for me. The years of Bill Clinton and having to endure a man totally devoid of character and morals, sullying the Oval Office, just dragged down the whole damn country into a sort of relativist sewer which lingers to this day.
I mean, there were times I was so repulsed by Clinton’s slime and its effect on the whole culture, my mind would get so worked up and irritated that I couldn’t get to sleep some evenings. So now, about 15 years later, I’m somehow going to just set aside my whole value-system and throw my standards to the wind? But in a way, the question is moot, since there are some other suitcases full of incredibly unpalatable things, like Newt’s global-warming stances, his FreddieMac lobbying, his pro-mandate views, the Scozzyfava incident, his rotten ‘red-card’ pathway-to-amnesty ideas, and probably a few more things. It’s all way, way too much for me, I’m afraid. I can’t honestly say I find Gingrich any more preferable than Romney.
14 posted on
12/02/2011 6:03:02 PM PST by
greene66
To: TBBT
Yeah, I consider myself a very devoted follower of Christ. I am not perfect, but I do believe. But that being said, my goal for our nation in the next election is to boot Hussein. I don’t consider Mormonism’s theology remotely accurate. But if we nominate a Mormon, I’ll pull the lever.
If we nominate the “cheater” Newt, then I will vote.
If we nominate the old crank Paul, I will vote.
Folks, the Republic can be saved with these men in office. With Hussein in office for another term, we may be thrown into the abyss.
To: TBBT
Why don't the evangelicals stick to electing pastors?
17 posted on
12/02/2011 6:09:58 PM PST by
starlifter
(Pullum sapit)
To: TBBT
It’s not the flip. It’s the flip flop.
35 posted on
12/03/2011 1:37:25 AM PST by
Gene Eric
(Save a pretzel for the gas jets.)
To: TBBT
All my baptist and catholic kin in cotton dixie have drifted to Snewt from Palin...Michelle...Rick...and Herman....everyone but one lib in San Fran....a dmv judge
36 posted on
12/03/2011 1:44:29 AM PST by
wardaddy
(Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt.....that is how I've seen it and it's where we are)
To: TBBT
Except for Ron Paul, the whole field disgusts me.
Gingrich has ALWAYS been a self-serving, egotistical
elitist, globalist phony.
He has taken both sides of every issue,
and if, God forbid, he were the nominee,
the rats will have a field day with the two-faced hypocrite.
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