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Not Your Grandfather's Republican Party; Obama and Romney Nearly the Same
Townhall.com ^ | November 26, 2011 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 11/26/2011 8:09:02 AM PST by Kaslin

Not your grandfather’s Republican Party

My lifelong friend and high-school classmate had an wonderful op-ed on iPolitics today. Please consider Not your grandfather’s Republican Party by David Wise.

One of the most negative things to have happened to the increasingly dysfunctional political system in the United States has been the transformation of the Republican Party over the last generation into the party of fiscal deficits. At one time, the bastion of balanced budgets and no free lunches, 70% of gross public debt through the last fiscal year was accumulated under the last three Republican presidents who ran deficits twenty out of twenty years averaging 3.9% of GDP.

Having inherited a budget surplus from Bill Clinton, George W. Bush presided over a doubling in federal debt, simultaneously cutting taxes while running two wars on credit. Railing against domestic spending, the same administration implemented a large new unfunded prescription drug benefit. Yet now, as the opposition party, Republicans pontificate about the dangerous levels of gross public debt (now at 101.1% of GDP) and last summer set about playing chicken with a possible default on our financial obligations. In now trumpeting national debt as a paramount evil, the Republicans approach the debate by taking tax increases and defense spending off the table – which is somewhat like resolving to set about losing weight by eschewing dieting and exercise.

Conservatives are right to raise issues about what they see as a tendency to throw money at domestic programs, yet refuse to apply the same logic to spending on the military. In a world with no existential threat such as we faced during the Cold War and in which 85% of global defense spending is by the US and its allies, the US defense budget is higher now on a constant dollar basis than it averaged during the Cold War. There is probably no part of the Federal government that is more poorly and wastefully managed than the US weapons acquisition programs where massive cost overruns are common.

The current situation is dangerous and unsustainable. This year the US government will collect taxes equal to 14.4 of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) – the lowest level since 1950 – yet spend 25.3% of GDP. Serious people know in their hearts what has to be done. ....
Here again is the link to the entire article: Not your grandfather’s Republican Party.

President Obama and Mitt Romney are Nearly One and the Same!

I do not know which candidate my friend backs, if any. It is easy enough to make a case that every candidate is flawed.

However, I am in 100% agreement with the central thesis of his article: "Serious people know in their hearts what has to be done."

To that idea, I have a few questions.

Do You Want More Bailouts? More War-Mongering? More Nation Building? More Federal Spending? More Status Quo?

Let me phrase the above in a single question: Do you want more of the same?

Polls suggest you don't. Your votes say you do. So which will it be?

If you want more of the same, then vote for President Obama. If you want more of the same you can also vote for Mitt Romney or Herman Cain.

Whether you voted Democratic or Republican in the last election, it did not matter. The non-super budget committee proves it as does Obama's carry-over of Bush's bank bailout policies.

The sad fact of the matter is a vote for Obama is a vote for Mitt Romney. Likewise, a vote for Mitt Romney is a vote for Obama.

As preposterous as it may have sounded at first glance, Obama and Romney are nearly One and the Same!

Neither will tackle the budget deficit. Both will keep military spending intact. Both support the "un-patriot" act.

To be fair, Romney is more likely to start a devastating trade war with China (in fact he has guaranteed it), while president Obama is more likely to waste money on social programs and big labor.

Some choice!

The simple fact of the matter is: it does not matter much if you vote for Mitt Romney or Barrack Obama. Both will destroy the country. Both support wars. Both will spend the country into the ground (but perhaps in different ways).


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; mittromney; obama; romney; slickmitt; zots4romneybots
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1 posted on 11/26/2011 8:09:08 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Yup. All the same.



2 posted on 11/26/2011 8:16:49 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: Kaslin

FUMR!!! FUBO!!!


3 posted on 11/26/2011 8:18:23 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Kaslin

if obama salaama were a splodey-dope muslim intent on destroying western civilization and declaring himself the 12th imam, what would he have done/be doing differently?????


4 posted on 11/26/2011 8:19:31 AM PST by tanstaafl44 (Muslims cannot let Western Civilization kill itself in peace.)
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To: Kaslin

Romney - no matter what his shortcomings - loves America. Obama hates it. To me that is a HUGE difference.


5 posted on 11/26/2011 8:20:19 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: Kaslin

“President Obama and Mitt Romney are Nearly One and the Same!”

EXACTLY! This is why if Romney is the GOP candidate they will lose the election.
If we keep voting for these Dem Lite candidates the GOP put out there, they have no incentive to get it right the next time


6 posted on 11/26/2011 8:21:24 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Kaslin

Deep down, Conservatives and Independents know this so is it Newt and Bachmann....for starters? If you listen to what Newt says, or find the text and read for yourself, the man is pretty much on target and NOT how the MSM presents his remarks...he is misquoted quite a bit so beware, Soros and others don’t want this man upsetting their sand boxes *~*


8 posted on 11/26/2011 8:24:21 AM PST by yoe
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To: vladimir998

That is the only difference between them


9 posted on 11/26/2011 8:24:54 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
Having inherited a budget surplus from Bill Clinton...

Stopped reading right there. Clinton had nothing to do with a budget surplus. A Republican controlled Congress controlled the purse strings. Just like with zero, a rat controlled congress gave him everything he wanted. If the author can't get the most basic facts right, how reliable will his analysis be?

10 posted on 11/26/2011 8:28:01 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: SunTzuWu

Clinton got into office with the mantra, “It’s the economy, stupid.” There had been a minor recession shortly before the election, but it was already ending. The clinton years were good partly because congress kept him leashed in, but mostly because the Reagan tax cuts were finally kicking in to full effect.

But it is true that Bush1 folded and broke his promise not to raise taxes. And it’s true that Bush2 was an idiotically big spender, even before the Dems took over congress and made things even worse.


11 posted on 11/26/2011 8:45:59 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Kaslin

Which is another reason why the lamestream media desperately wants Romney to be the GOP nominee.


12 posted on 11/26/2011 8:46:30 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Romney has a lot of backing from primary voters in early states who think they know best even though they are consistently wrong.


13 posted on 11/26/2011 8:54:19 AM PST by Theodore R. (Forget the others: It's Santorum's turn, articulate, passionate, less baggage.)
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To: SunTzuWu
Stopped reading right there.

Why what for? Mike Shedlock did not claim that President Bush inherited a budget surplus from Bill Clinton. It was an Op-ed by David W. Wise

http://www.ipolitics.ca/2011/11/25/op-ed-not-your-grandfathers-republican-party/

I have said many time when ever the left claims that President Bush inherited a budget surplus from Billy Jeff, that he wouldn't have if Clinton didn't have a Republican Congress. At the time time 0bama can not claim that he inherited a bad economy and the high unemployment, because as everyone knows before the rats took over in January 2007 the economy was thriving and unemployment was practically nonexistent. BTW 0bama was part of the economy turning south because he voted for the deficit

14 posted on 11/26/2011 8:58:54 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: vladimir998

romney is very bad, he is a flip flopper. obama is evil incarnate, a despicable and loathsome creature destined for the pit in Hell. Because romney actually is a flopper, there is some chance to bring him to our side when pressure is applied. With obama, you only have guaranteed misery, depression and tyranny. This country wil NEVER survive 4 more years of the devil obama.
Basically, between romney and obama, the choice is Purgatory or Hell


15 posted on 11/26/2011 9:00:31 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero est un espece de merde.)
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To: rabscuttle385
... Actions speak louder than words. ...

Absolutely! It amazes me how many judge a candidate by promises made when seeking your vote, not on past actions. It also amazes me how many sins are forgiven if there is an R after the candidate's name.
16 posted on 11/26/2011 9:03:11 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: vladimir998
Socialism is socialism whether we get there at a sprint or a crawl.

If we keep fishin from the same ol pond, were gonna keep catchin the same ol big mouth bass.

Vote for true conservatism, not this moderate, left leaning perversion of it.

Eww eww, just had a thought, maybe we could call Romney's version compassionate conservatism, yea that's it, compassionate conservatism.

Enough of the RINO stuff already.

17 posted on 11/26/2011 9:09:16 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: grumpygresh

Then take Purgatory. Purgatory is short, a refining fire, and leads to complete holiness and entrance into Heaven.


18 posted on 11/26/2011 9:20:57 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: Kaslin
Grandpa's Republican Party? Not the same as today's? Don't believe that it's all just started. It's been around for most of the 20th century it seems to me.

A couple of quotes from the 1964 Republican presidential race, mostly Rockefeller v. Goldwater: the Party's internationalist establishment v. citizen patriots, respectively.

1) Nelson Rockefeller's public relations head, Stuart Spencer, said that Nelson's instructions were, "We had to destroy Barry Goldwater as a member of the human race."

2) Here is Senator Everett McKinley Dirksen, Republican of Ill., at the 1964 Republican convention that picked Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona as the Republican candidate for president: Today, the Illinois Senator said, "it is the fashion of our critics to sneer at patriotism, to label positions of strength as extremism, to find other nations' points of view right more often than our own. Perhaps too long the bugles have sounded 'retreat' in our relations with other lands," he said.

The Dirksen quote is from a Tom Wicker report to the NY Times, July 1964.

Barry Goldwater was picked to end that sorry state. Though we eventually got Ronald Reagan we had to endure Jimmy Carter and later Bill Clinton and now whatever his real name is.

It's come time to get it over with. Whose America is going to survive? Don't leave it for the children.. again.. and again.

No I do not know what it takes.. it seems that anything is better than this slow death of the Republic in the hands of the likes of the anonymous street agitator and the Republican Washington establishment.

19 posted on 11/26/2011 9:25:21 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Kaslin
GeeOpie,  no shyte.   

The Party (tm) is infested with interior decorating RINO-crats who game the system for their own progressive activist causes instead of conserving the values this Republic was founded upon.   


"Oops"
 

20 posted on 11/26/2011 9:36:03 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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