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Ron Paul is for real in Iowa. Seriously.
The Washington Post ^ | November 17, 2011 | Chris Cillizza

Posted on 11/17/2011 2:26:31 PM PST by Kurt Evans

Texas Rep. Ron Paul, long dismissed by the GOP establishment as a fringe candidate, has broadened his electoral appeal and emerged as a major player in the Jan. 3 Iowa caucuses, according to several recent polls and conversations with a handful of longtime Hawkeye political operatives...

In a Bloomberg News survey — conducted by renowned Iowa-based pollster Ann Selzer — Paul was in a four-way statistical tie for first along with businessman Herman Cain, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich...

And, in a new Iowa State/Gazette/KCRG survey, Paul took 20 percent — behind only Cain at 25 percent...

Paul is using the relatively uncluttered airwaves to tell a story of himself as a consistent champion of fiscal responsibility in a field of candidates that have not always hewed so closely to that mantra.

One ad attacks the inconsistencies of Cain, Romney and Perry on fiscal matters — TARP, economic stimulus — before cutting to Paul; “I’ve been talking about these problems for a long long time...now we’re bankrupt and we have to decide which way we’re going to go,” he says.

And, it’s not just Paul’s television ads that have blanketed the state. Sixty seven percent of those tested in the Bloomberg poll said they had been contacted by the Paul campaign via email, direct mail, telephone or someone coming directly to their door over the last year — the highest percentage for any candidate...

“We have a strong ground game in the state that is reaching out at a faster pace than any other campaign,” argued Trygve Olson, a Paul adviser...

“We are picking up support among social conservatives in Iowa -- particularly ones who believe our country’s fiscal situation is in serious peril,” noted Olson...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: 2012; 50mmisasackofshit; 50mmisgay; cain; darkwing104isapos; darkwing104isgay; doublezot; elections; gop; hermancain; ia2012; iowa; larouchies; mittromney; paul; paulbotzot; perry; rickperry; romney; ronpaul; ronpaul2012; spammonkeys; stimulus; tarp; zot
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To: Liberty1970
Same here. Paul will have my vote in the primary, and if the Republicans decide to stick with their Democrat Lite approach they can stop wasting time reaching out to me...

But the Paulites always do that. They vote for Paul in the primary and then either Libertarian, Constitution or Democrat in the general.

Paulie votes are no loss - we'd never get them anyway, even if we had a good conservative on the ticket.

101 posted on 11/17/2011 6:07:18 PM PST by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
There is nothing worse than a socialist in-charge of what should be the conservative party.

Don't worry, Cut and Run will never get more than 5% of the vote.
102 posted on 11/17/2011 6:09:49 PM PST by John D
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To: Kurt Evans; Jim Robinson
Kurt Evans has said over the past few days,
”Cain is a reflex liar"
"Stop Newt Gingrich"
"Cain's other victims"
"media leak to the Perry campaign”

And in the last election you loved the socialist Huckabee.

you can not be a Ron Paul guy AND a socialist it is they are polar opposites

103 posted on 11/17/2011 6:16:14 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: ejonesie22
Saying Paul is anything like the fathers of this great nation is bordering on blasphemous...

Saying that you won't start a war against someone who has not attacked you is not the same as saying you'd surrender to someone who has. You're going to have to try harder to defend your attempts to export liberalism.

104 posted on 11/17/2011 6:18:50 PM PST by Liberty1970 (Skepticism and Close-mindedness are two very different things.)
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To: Liberty1970

105 posted on 11/17/2011 6:28:27 PM PST by Eaker (Nothing even remotely praising Romney should be posted because one should stick to the truth.)
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To: Pappy Smear
I may also vote for Perry, because of all the reasons these candidates peeve me off, his reason is the least bothersome to me...

Forget tuition breaks for illegal aliens. Perry bypassed the legislature and issued an executive order trying to force every sixth-grade girl in Texas to get a $130 STD vaccination from one of his campaign donors.
106 posted on 11/17/2011 6:35:40 PM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Rome2000

“A democracy is not a form of government to survive. For it will only succeed until its citizens discover they can vote themselves money from the treasury. Then they will bankrupt it.”

—Karl Marx


107 posted on 11/17/2011 6:43:32 PM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Eaker

LOL! Perfect.


108 posted on 11/17/2011 6:50:03 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: thackney; ejonesie22

I love that letter (”ejonesie22” put the whole thing in post #88). Reagan’s administration fell far short of Reagan’s conservative ideals, especially in his second term.


109 posted on 11/17/2011 6:55:39 PM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: TheOldLady
STRANGEST THING IS Luther gets the ZOT for being a paultard ... and might be supporting NEWT.

just could not stay away from the BLOWBACK button.


110 posted on 11/17/2011 6:56:48 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (I will go back to New Hampshire to campaign.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
And in the last election you loved the socialist Huckabee.

Mike Huckabee isn't a socialist.
111 posted on 11/17/2011 7:01:14 PM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Actually, Luther lost his posting privileges because he was a “retread spam monkey” — Jim Robinson — a ZOT-on-sight offense.


112 posted on 11/17/2011 7:03:09 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Eaker

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Love it!


113 posted on 11/17/2011 7:27:36 PM PST by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Kurt Evans

I figured you would say that...

Amazing thing that Paul runs as a Republican now since we are even further away from that ideal in the party.

Hypocrisy (and insanity) thy name is Ron Paul.


114 posted on 11/17/2011 7:32:53 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Kurt Evans

LOL. Perfect!


115 posted on 11/17/2011 7:34:38 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: TheOldLady

either way, we touched the button.
remind me not to become a spam monkey. either original or retread.


116 posted on 11/17/2011 8:14:21 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (I will go back to New Hampshire to campaign.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
When and how often should I remind you not to become a retread spam monkey, Pete? Just let me know...   ;-p
117 posted on 11/17/2011 8:33:03 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Allegra; Eaker

Hi, Allegra! Hi, Eaker!


118 posted on 11/17/2011 8:34:58 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: TheOldLady

Hi TOL!


119 posted on 11/17/2011 8:41:47 PM PST by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Eaker

During his 1978 congressional campaign, Ron Paul was locked in a tough primary battle, and his noninterventionist foreign policy came under attack from Republican rivals trying to paint him as weak on defense. Ron had been one of only four congressmen to endorse Ronald Reagan in 1976 and had led the Texas delegation for Reagan at the 1976 Republican convention, so when he needed some help, Reagan was happy to reciprocate with this endorsement:

“Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country.”
—Ronald Reagan


120 posted on 11/17/2011 8:42:34 PM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans

If Paul wins the nomination I will be happy to vote for him. He has a few ideas I don’t like but 80% of the time he is right on the money.


121 posted on 11/17/2011 8:46:01 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Luther1917
“It’s called Blowback. I suggest you read the official CIA report on 9/11 and what events contributed to it.”

Evil; and ignorant.

122 posted on 11/17/2011 8:49:35 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: TheOldLady

Wow, *my* ears are still ringin’ after that one. ;’)


123 posted on 11/17/2011 9:39:54 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: TheOldLady
those scary cats will hopefully keep my away from the danger zone.

right now i am going to have a fit over the way ronPAUListas have HIGHJACKED PART OF THE REAGAN COALITION AND ARE MAKING IT EASIER FOR THE RINOS TO DOMINATE THE PRIMARY PROCESS every 4 years!!!!!!!!!!!


124 posted on 11/17/2011 9:43:36 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (I will go back to New Hampshire to campaign.)
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To: Kurt Evans

Then what happened to him...

He is cut and run now...

Keep trying...


125 posted on 11/17/2011 10:15:47 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Liberty1970
Saying that you won't start a war against someone who has not attacked you is not the same as saying you'd surrender to someone who has

When someone threatens you and you apologize for something you did not do and appease and praise them shows your cowardice and encourages them. The surrender monkey encourages the terrorists by trying to be the Nevile Chamberlain of the 21st century.
126 posted on 11/18/2011 3:00:30 AM PST by John D
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To: Kurt Evans
“Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country.” —Ronald Reagan

People often say things and then come to their senses. Ronald Reagan was also once a labor leader and a democrat. He then came to his senses. There is no way Reagan would today support the earmark king.
127 posted on 11/18/2011 3:07:52 AM PST by John D
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To: Luther1917
It’s called Blowback. I suggest you read the official CIA report on 9/11 and what events contributed to it.

Is that you rev wright?? Scratch another n00bie troll. You've been on my watch list since you signed up here. You are wrong, it's called ZOT.


128 posted on 11/18/2011 4:40:41 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Kurt Evans

Ronald Reagan had an amnesty program too.

So on amnesty and Nutball Paul he was wrong twice.

Not bad seeing as how Paul is wrong just about all the time.

Conservatives will join OWS before they will support Paul.


129 posted on 11/18/2011 4:44:35 AM PST by Eaker (Nothing even remotely praising Romney should be posted because one should stick to the truth.)
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To: Kurt Evans
I love that letter

Is that why you posted the picture of Paul with Reagan? Because you agree with Paul's rejection of the works of Reagan?

It sure appeared you were trying to make Paul look like a Reagan republican when the reality is, in Paul's own words, he lines up with Dennis Kucinich.

It appear you might have been trying to deceive people about Paul. But if you want real conservatives to vote for him, that is your only chance.

130 posted on 11/18/2011 5:37:58 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: TheOldLady; 50mm
Luther1917 was another one on my watch list. I still have 1 1/2 pages with six columns of recent sign ups and only a dozen or so scratched off.
131 posted on 11/18/2011 5:43:03 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: John D
When someone threatens you and you apologize for something you did not do and appease and praise them shows your cowardice and encourages them.

Appeasement Paul and the paulbots think freedom is free. It is not.
132 posted on 11/18/2011 6:20:15 AM PST by rideharddiefast
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To: SunkenCiv; Godzilla
Wow, *my* ears are still ringin’ after that one. ;’)

Just a little welcome-to-the-list for Godzilla, our newest member.

133 posted on 11/18/2011 6:26:17 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Ah, you truly are the keeper of the trolls. You’re doing great work, AH!


134 posted on 11/18/2011 7:41:37 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: okie01
"We "deserved" 9/11."

There is a HUGE difference between acknowledging the reason the muzzies attacked us and your rash, unfounded "interpretation" of what was said.

135 posted on 11/18/2011 7:46:32 AM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: edpc
"Was this the same commission.."

I agree that the bogus commission was a waste of time and money, but to assume that RP completely agrees with them is a stretch.

136 posted on 11/18/2011 7:49:38 AM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: campaignPete R-CT
"but do they really follow the decisions of the court? "

What has the Court go to do with the Constitution?

"Were they there in opposition the Kagan?"

Darn right we were opposing the Kagan nomination!

We are always in opposition to liberal SC nominations.

Our steadfast support for RP should tell you that we don't want Romney.

137 posted on 11/18/2011 7:53:44 AM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: Kurt Evans

Oh, you mean teh same RonPaul who associates with Alex Jones, and the founder of Stormfront, ,the same RonPaul who says that Reagan was a failure?
The same RonPaul whose minions still try to steal some of Reagan’s legitimacy by posting pictures of RonPaul with the person he said was a failure?
The Same RonPaul who apparently supports OCCUPY WALLSTREET and the leftists running it?


138 posted on 11/18/2011 8:35:00 AM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Luther1917
"It’s called Blowback."

No, it's called being a useful idiot to Islamists. Blowback? No, more like give a Jihadist a blow7ob.

Here are the events the contributed to 911. In the 7th Century, an evil cult was born masking itself as a religion and to this day, vows an Islamic Caliphate. Nothing the west can do, or not do, will satisfy this. Only killing jihadists and islamists will cleans the world of insanity.

139 posted on 11/18/2011 8:59:34 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: GlockThe Vote
"He is the only one remotely speaking in terms of what needs to be done domestically and monetarily."

Of course, you only listen to THE ONLY ONE!

Cult worship if I have ever seen it. Perhaps this is why Ron Paul has a fawning respect for Islam. Cults have respect for each other.

140 posted on 11/18/2011 9:03:14 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: stevio
A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for the Jihad.

...which makes you an idiot for voting for him.

141 posted on 11/18/2011 9:04:52 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: GlockThe Vote
"He didnt blame America for 9/11. He simply pointed out what was reported in the 9/11 Commission Report if you had read it."

Then you know nothing about Ron Paul. Those of us who know Ron Paul do not like Ron Paul.

Ron Paul was quick to blame America days after the attack.

“I don’t see Islam as our enemy,” Paul said. “I see that motivation is occupation and those who hate us and would like to kill us, they are motivated by our invasion of their land, the support of their dictators that they hate.” - Ron Paul

142 posted on 11/18/2011 9:13:30 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: thackney; Kurt Evans
Paul drones are shapeshifters. Depending on which forum or protest they attend, they will tell you what you want to hear in the hopes that you too will become a zombie-tool.
143 posted on 11/18/2011 9:18:37 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: Kurt Evans
"Reagan’s administration fell far short of Reagan’s conservative ideals, especially in his second term."

At that time, Presidents were not dictators but shared power with the Legistlative branch. Guess who owned the House and Senate in Reagan's second term genius?

Ron Paul - Friend of Iran's Mullahs and Ayatollahs

144 posted on 11/18/2011 9:22:15 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: GlockThe Vote
"Those Freepers are merely mini-me’s for Rush, Levin, and Vanity."

What positions of Rush/Levin/Hannity are not Conservative?

I can name lots regarding Ron Paul. Why are Ron Paul drones not nuked on this forum? All are useful idiots for a whole host of undesirable and non-conservative principles. They belong in the same bit-bucket as Romney supporters.

145 posted on 11/18/2011 9:27:35 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: Designer
There is a HUGE difference between acknowledging the reason the muzzies attacked us and your rash, unfounded "interpretation" of what was said.

The proximate reason the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor was because we had cut off scrap metal shipments to them.

Does that mean we should have met their wishes and continued the shipments?

Did that justify the attack?

The point is that, just because our actions -- consistent with our national interest -- might offend some irrational actor, does it give them the right to attack us?

Paul seems to believe it does.

There is a difference between recognizing what is driving our enemies and justifying same.

Which is to say: I would not entrust Dr. Paul with responsibility for our national security for so much as a millisecond.

146 posted on 11/18/2011 11:48:34 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Eaker

I’m not a fan of Romney’s but if he gets the nod, better him than four more years of a Marxist. If you would go anywhere near a Obama HQ or work for them out of spite, then do America a favor and stay home. We got Obama, because “conservatives” wouldn’t vote for Thompson, etc, and when McCain got the nod, they definitely said “no”. Look how well that has worked out.


147 posted on 11/18/2011 2:11:24 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

So you would rather have a Communist. Well, that worked out well over the past 3.5 years, huh.

Not a fan of Romney, but I definitely know that this country can’t take another four years of Obama.

Please stay home.


148 posted on 11/18/2011 2:13:31 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: oneamericanvoice
then do America a favor and stay home.

Oh, HELL NO!

If you hand me Romney I'll give you four more years of Obama.

Put on your thinking cap and only tell the truth about Romney so there is no way he will be the candidate or suffer the Obamaquences!

149 posted on 11/18/2011 2:29:35 PM PST by Eaker (Nothing even remotely praising Romney should be posted because one should stick to the truth.)
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To: oneamericanvoice
"So you would rather have a Communist (over a socialist in the conservative party)"

Yes absolutely. No doubt about it. I will even help Obama win.

150 posted on 11/18/2011 3:28:18 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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