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The Case for Banning Sharia Law in America
American Thinker ^ | November 13, 2011 | JanSuzanne Krasner

Posted on 11/14/2011 12:37:02 PM PST by NYer

The incompatibility of Islamic sharia law with secular courts stems from the underpinning of Islamism -- the unyielding union of the laws and punishments of the Qu'ran and Hadiths with the country's legal and political system.  Sharia law is the legislation of these religious and criminal rules, which rejects America's constitutional secularism and legal penalties.

The Qu'ran commands Muslims to change secular laws to conform to sharia, eventually establishing Islamic law worldwide.  Islamic courts want their fatwas to supersede the civil and criminal laws, untying Muslims from civil secular courts.

The facts reveal that in 2008, when the first sharia court was recognized in the U.K., within one year, over 85 recognized sharia courts were established within the U.K.'s Tribunal Court system.  The problem with this rapidly spreading dogma is that several of these courts have issued some fatwas that are completely incompatible with British and European law.

As Islam is a male-dominated ideology, the laws of the Qu'ran make half of its devotees, its female population, second-class citizens.  This inequality has drawn recent attention to the need for additional British legislation to rein in these courts so they abide by British law.

It appears that once any legal system opens its doors to Islamic law, that door will be hard to close...and eventually, the only thing missing will be a parallel Islamic government.

But even with this reality in front of Americans, there are still many who insist that our laws will prevent such circumstances from ever occurring in the U.S.  And because of this nonchalant attitude, there are numbers of people, both Muslim and non-Muslim, who believe that sharia law is not a threat to non-Muslim Americans or to the Western liberal democratic rule of law.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: corruption; crushislam; fraud; islam; islamism; islamofascism; muslims; noshariaintheusa; sharia; shariah; sharialaw

1 posted on 11/14/2011 12:37:03 PM PST by NYer
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To: americanophile; Liz; The Mayor
The possibility that Muslim-only towns and urban enclaves could be created in the U.S. seems unimaginable to most Americans, but it already is a reality. Just travel 150 mile northwest of New York City to the woods of the western Catskills, and you will find Islamberg, a private Muslim community founded in 1980 by Sheikh Syed Mubarik Ali Shah Gilani. Sheikh Gilani is said to be one of the founders of Jamaat al-Fuqra, a terrorist organization believed to be responsible for dozens of bombings and murders in the U.S. and abroad.

Ping!

2 posted on 11/14/2011 12:37:50 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer
Islamization
3 posted on 11/14/2011 12:39:04 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: NYer
Our Constitution already defacto bans sharia law. What we need to do is either unelect or impeach any judge who uses it, or attempts to use, it in decision in a U.S. court room.
4 posted on 11/14/2011 12:39:27 PM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: NYer

GPS coordinates?


5 posted on 11/14/2011 12:40:17 PM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: NYer

If that ever started to take hold here, the Islamists would be 1000x harder to deal with than the Mormans were back in the day.

I can’t believe there is even a debate about this...


6 posted on 11/14/2011 12:42:25 PM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: NYer
As Islam is a male-dominated ideology, the laws of the Qu'ran make half of its devotees, its female population, second-class citizens.

This statement is false. The 'laws' of the Quran don't make females second-class citizens, it makes them chattel, which aren't citizens at all, but PROPERTY...

the infowarrior

7 posted on 11/14/2011 12:44:16 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: NYer
I'm not even sure why we're even discussing this. Are we so impotent as a culture that we cannot be confident in our way of life that we must question who we are and what we stand for?

Stop this PC madness. A spade is a spade, a duck is a duck, a muzzie is a muzzie.

8 posted on 11/14/2011 12:44:34 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: NYer

Shari’ah law is the ultimate in case law.

There is NOTHING like the Decalogue or the “Golden Rule” in Shari’ah law, and there is no review or appeal, except to the mercy of the imam or other theological authority. And mercy is not justice, it is an admission that the justice system is badly flawed.


9 posted on 11/14/2011 12:45:41 PM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: NYer

Fuel-air bombs have their uses.


10 posted on 11/14/2011 12:57:22 PM PST by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: NYer

“The incompatibility of Islamic sharia law with secular courts....”

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That is all that needs to be said.

Look at any islamic hellhole and ask yourself if that is what you want to live in.

This subject needs to be brought up at a future republican presidential candidates debate or all their other plans are moot and of no value.


11 posted on 11/14/2011 12:58:19 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: NYer

There is no problem with religious communities living together apart.

They still have to abide by neutral secular law.

Or Janet Reno will burn them to the ground.

Or something like that.


12 posted on 11/14/2011 12:59:29 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: NYer

The United States Constitution already bands Sharia law.

The most telling thing is how justifiably little confidence we all have that our domestic enemies will be at all deterred by it.


13 posted on 11/14/2011 1:07:50 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Zeppelin

“1000x harder to deal with than the Mormans were back in the day.”

I do not understand your position on “dealing with the Mormons.” It all boils down to freedom of religion and the liberty to vote for what ever candidate one chooses. How were the “Mormons dealt with?” Run out of their legally owned homes, farms, businesses, in the middle of winter with only what they could carry. Many died from exposure (women, elderly and children). At least they were/are patriotic and American Citizens!!!!! Many of their forefathers fought in the Revolutionary War. Gee, such routine ignoring of the Constitution was as common then as now!
Thanks /s


14 posted on 11/14/2011 1:12:37 PM PST by yellowroses (A yankee in Texas)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

ping!


15 posted on 11/14/2011 1:15:51 PM PST by Albion Wilde (To ACLU & its plaintiffs: Stop dragging the public into your personal struggle w/ God. -Mark Baisley)
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To: servantboy777
I'm not even sure why we're even discussing this.

Because, like it or not, it is coming. There are many issues on which our country has caved ... gays in the military, for example ... it is simply a matter of time. The best offense is a great defense. If you wait until it is on the doorstep, it will be too late to rally the troops.

16 posted on 11/14/2011 1:29:15 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: yellowroses

While the reactions by the states and fed gov (Buchanan) were way out of line, the early LDS weren’t exactly playing ball with respect to the Constitution. That’s what I was referring to, and that’s why I used a multiplier of “1000x harder.”

No offense was meant, and I surely wasn’t talking about today’s Mormans.


17 posted on 11/14/2011 1:29:39 PM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: NYer
There is absolutely nothing that can be done about the growing muzzie presence.

Look at the number of mosques popping up...everywhere.

In Downtown Houston, right off of the Smith st. exit, a HUGE Islamic center.

It's so in your face. Even in the burbs, mosques popping up all around. Not lil tiny 20 member buildings, these are large buildings.

18 posted on 11/14/2011 1:36:26 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: NYer

The US should restrict travel from most Mid-East and South Asian countries.


19 posted on 11/14/2011 1:38:01 PM PST by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: WayneS

google maps “roods creek road and moslem road, hancock, ny”. Head up Moselm road for the town. North of the town you see ground cleared in odd patches (firing ranges is my guess).


20 posted on 11/14/2011 1:42:12 PM PST by risen_feenix
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To: WayneS
Our Constitution already defacto bans sharia law.
Exactly. The fact that we even have to spend 10 seconds discussing this is extremely depressing.

But there are TRAITORS on the bench in US courts (who should be summarily shot) who are making this an actual live issue that will go on for decades.

21 posted on 11/14/2011 1:46:45 PM PST by samtheman
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To: NYer

http://amilimani.com/2011/11/islam-was-not-for-me/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=islam-was-not-for-me


22 posted on 11/14/2011 1:56:32 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: PGR88
The US should restrict travel from most Mid-East and South Asian countries.

That does nothing to alleviate the growing Muslim population in the US. Guess you missed the TLC program, 'All American Muslim', last night.

23 posted on 11/14/2011 2:58:32 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: servantboy777

Correct. Our government/courts have so rotted the civil, religious foundations of our society that we are too weak to withstand this Islamic assault.


24 posted on 11/14/2011 4:29:45 PM PST by Jacquerie (Think outside the pizza box.)
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To: Jacquerie

The muzzies and other enemies of this country have perfected the use of our own laws against this country.


25 posted on 11/14/2011 5:32:29 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: Zeppelin

Sorry. I was anxious about something else. I DO sometimes fly off the handle. Not your fault.

Just curious, in what way to you consider the early LDS not playing ball with respect to the Constitution? If it’s plural marriage, I understand your concern. But, plural marriage was not against the law when it was started. I think it was 1881 when the church stopped practicing it (year may be wrong). Just my understanding. No argument wanted by me.
Thanks.
And as for Sharia Law, I firmly am with you 100%. It is totally against the constitution, and I feel women, especially should be educated about it. I believe bride prices are paid for the exclusive right to the woman’s child bearing organs. They are considered possessions, even less than slaves....
Barbarians .....


26 posted on 11/14/2011 5:42:56 PM PST by yellowroses (A yankee in Texas)
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To: NYer

True conservatives believe in the freedom to contract.


27 posted on 11/14/2011 6:20:15 PM PST by Rethymnon
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To: servantboy777

Birth rates.


28 posted on 11/14/2011 9:06:30 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

>>Birth rates.<<

Yea, what you said! :)


29 posted on 11/15/2011 7:33:56 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: americanophile; Islaminaction; Kolokotronis; annalex; MahatmaGandu; NYer; La Lydia; AnalogReigns; ..
ISLAMIZATION PING LIST

"The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets,
the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers."

Infidels: freepmail me if you want on or off this list.


30 posted on 11/15/2011 11:46:11 AM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: NYer

31 posted on 11/16/2011 4:20:31 AM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: bayouranger
This program, IMHO, is a media attempt to show these people in a positive light. It fits the description (slightly modified) from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat. Link

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness.

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs [Europe, Australia, USA and Japan]. Six percent of US prison inmates are Muslim. Like any other minority, they won’t integrate, but work to build their own separate community.

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. South Africa's Muslim population is 2%, but they control 35% of the businesses, a large percentage of the banks and have five Cabinet seats while Christians (77% of the population) have none.

They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves (along with threats for failure to comply).

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia; Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world, but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. (Ei: car-burnings in France last October.) Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats.

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning (India, Mindanao, Philippines).

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare [Indonesia].

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya (infidel tax). (Sudan, Kosovo, Lebanon and Egypt).

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide [Western Papua (New Guinea), Iran, Biafra, Turkey and North Nigeria].

100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" - House of Peace - as in Saudi Arabia, Libya and Yemen.

32 posted on 11/16/2011 5:16:39 AM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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