Posted on 11/14/2011 6:56:26 AM PST by ScottinVA
Heck, the Conservative media (and blogs) did enough of that too. Until September if your first name wasn't Sarah most Freepers had their guns on you.
"I can't believe Nixon won! I don't know a single person who voted for him!"
--New Yorker film critic, Pauline Kael, 1972.
LBJ. Ford. Carter. GHWB. Can BHO be so hard to beat? He's much worse than Carter, and Carter got beat!
I’ll take your odd.
I think you’re right. When I saw Obama sworn in back in early ‘09, my gut told me right then and there he’s a two-termer.
Same as my gut told me the same with G.W. Bush and Clinton.
So far, I’ve been right. All my friends back stateside laughed at me when I said W was going to have two terms.
I made a total of $400 off that little bet. :)
“Consumer confidence is up for the 3rd straight month...”
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Oh really? Below are reported numbers from Aug thru Oct which is the latest available.
US consumer confidence for October unexpectedly dropped to its lowest level since 2009, when the index reached 26.9 points, San Francisco Chronicle reported.
According to the survey conducted by New York-based private research group, The Conference Board, the US consumer confidence index for October stood at 39.8, down from 46.4 in September.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/206610.html
snip
Consumer Edge says U.S. confidence hits new low
Reuters
“...The firm’s Consumer Economic Index is now at 45.4, down 10 percentage points from July and down 1.5 points from the 46.9 level it reported on August 10.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/30/usa-economy-idUSN1E77T0DO20110830
snip (and this from Huffington)
Consumer Confidence Hits Record Non-Recession Low: Survey
In the latest indicator of an unusually weak recovery, the Conference Board Consumer Confidence Index hit an all-time non-recession low in September, according to figures released Wednesday.
The index also comes close to lows seen during the recession in 2008 and 2009, which, with consumer spending accounting for roughly 70 percent of the economy, signals the recovery could remain weak for some time.
Compared to even recessions themselves, the current mood of Americans is historically low, remaining well below the average of the past five recessions combined, going back to 1980, according to Advisor Perspectives.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/consumer-confidence-record-non-recession-low_n_1032714.html
The problem is when the general public look at the Republican’s running for office all it does is make Obama look that much better.
How many goto a poor man to get a job? RD
You said...
“Been trying to tell people the same thing. Yet it seems like the majority here on FR have managed to convince themselves Obama could not be re-elected - even though polling actually shows him faring remarkably well considering what a terrible job he has done. This absurd, echo chamber fantasy that Obama is going to be so easy to beat that we can just run anybody is absolute foolishness. Obama will be extremely difficult to defeat, he will get no less than 45% of the vote and is more likely to get closer to 50% of vote. IF we win in 2012, it will probably be by a very slim margin.”
My favorites are the posters who think their local dogcatcher could beat him
Yes, these are the same type of people who thought Christine O'Donnell could win a statewide race in Delaware and were SHOCKED when she lost in a landslide defeat (even though every political analyst both right and left said she'd be crushed). There are some folks that are entirely divorced from reality and live in an echo chamber fantasy world.
Obama CAN be defeated. It will be with a strong candidate and the current GOP field is weak.
If it does happen, I'm not betting on a landslide. Things are different today than in 1980
Here's the Intrade Link.
Unfortunately, further perusal of the site shows that the bettors are giving Romney about 2 chances out of 3 to be the nominee.
“Considering that we don’t have a candidate and Obama has yet to have to defend the indefensible in a real debate with a real opponent, I’m not as pessimistic as you.”
Obama does far worse against a generic Republican than any specific individual candidate. Once the GOP nominates someone, let’s see where the Intrade line goes.
You're right about that. It would be nice if we could nominate someone who would add to, rather than subtract from republican support.
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