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MSNBC Analyst: We Should Get Rid of the Second Amendment
Townhall.com ^ | November 7, 2011 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 11/07/2011 5:51:11 AM PST by Kaslin

What is the deal with MSNBC folks being anti-Second Amendment lately? Last week it was fill in host Craig Melvin and this week it's analyst and Huffington Post writer Alex Wagner.

Wagner was on Real Time With Bill Maher and when asked about what should be changed in the Constitution, Wagner said we should get rid of the Second Amendment.

Bill Maher, HBO: "Let's ask Alex. What would you change in the Constitution?"


Alex Wagner, Huffington Post: "Well, I'm going to be pilloried for this. I think get rid of the second Amendment, the right to bear arms. I just think in the grand scheme of the rights that we have; the right of assembly, free speech, I mean, owning a gun does not, it does not tally on the same level as those other Constitutional rights. And being more discreet about who gets to have a firearm and right to kill with a firearm, I think is something that would be in our national interest to revisit that."

Thankfully, Rep. Darrell Issa was on the same panel and set her straight.

Issa: We have a problem in America which is we misunderstand quite frankly what the Second Amendment is for, it's for law abiding citizens to have a right both to protect themselves and to be protected from living under tyranny.

My question for Wagner is this: What happens when you no longer have a right to free speech? The Second Amendment holds up the First Amendment. Criminals don't care if a right to bear arms is in the Constitution, they arm themselves anyway. Disarming law abiding citizens only makes them sitting ducks and victims of violence from criminals and victims of oppression from their government.

History lesson: What was the first thing the Nazi's did? They disarmed the citizenry so they could have total control over the people, and we all know how that ended up.

Adolf Hitler's use of firearms registration lists to confiscate guns and the execution of their owners teaches a forceful lesson -- one that reveals why the American people and Congress have rejected registering honest firearm owners.

The Night of the Broken Glass (Kristallnacht)--the infamous Nazi rampage against Germany's Jews--took place in November 1938. It was preceded by the confiscation of firearms from the Jewish victims. On Nov. 8, the New York Times reported from Berlin, "Berlin Police Head Announces 'Disarming' of Jews," explaining:

The Berlin Police President, Count Wolf Heinrich von Helldorf, announced that as a result of a police activity in the last few weeks the entire Jewish population of Berlin had been "disarmed" with the confiscation of 2,569 hand weapons, 1,702 firearms and 20,000 rounds of ammunition. Any Jews still found in possession of weapons without valid licenses are threatened with the severest punishment.


On the evening of Nov. 9, Adolf Hitler, Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels, and other Nazi chiefs planned the attack. Orders went out to Nazi security forces: "All Jewish stores are to be destroyed immediately . . . . Jewish synagogues are to be set on fire . . . . The Führer wishes that the police does not intervene. . . . All Jews are to be disarmed. In the event of resistance they are to be shot immediately."

You can watch the video clip here.


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1 posted on 11/07/2011 5:51:13 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I can only pray the left would start pushing this!!!


2 posted on 11/07/2011 5:52:34 AM PST by ontap
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To: Kaslin

I’d rather get rid of liberal’s right to free speech.


3 posted on 11/07/2011 5:52:38 AM PST by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: Kaslin

without the 2nd amendment you wouldn’t have any other rights.


4 posted on 11/07/2011 5:52:41 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Cain 2012!)
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To: Kaslin

There is a reason PMSNBC is at the bottom of the ratings heap.
Too bad they still make enough money to survive.


5 posted on 11/07/2011 5:52:46 AM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Kaslin
What is the deal with MSNBC folks being anti-Second Amendment lately? Last week it was fill in host Craig Melvin and this week it's analyst and Huffington Post writer Alex Wagner.

Lately? It's in their blood.

6 posted on 11/07/2011 5:54:11 AM PST by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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To: G Larry

Ditto here


7 posted on 11/07/2011 5:56:58 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

ping


8 posted on 11/07/2011 5:57:02 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Kaslin

We should get rid of the part of the US Constitution which says abortion is a right.

Oh. That’s right.

THERE ISN’T ONE.


9 posted on 11/07/2011 5:57:33 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (America First)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Very well said


10 posted on 11/07/2011 5:57:41 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Unarm the public and you rule. No way to stop them. THAT is what this is all about. TOTAL CONTROL. TOTAL RULE. THEY HAVE AND RULE. YOU have to TAKE IT!!!! If America is so stupid enough, and they are, to give up total freedom to these scumbags in Sodom on the Potomac, then shup up and take it. You gave it too them. It is the sign of the times friend. The Bible warned of these. Take heed. Time draws short. If you don’t know your Lord, can I suggest now might be a very good time to search Him out. Time draws near. The things written in Daniel and Revelation are CLEARLY happening now. The signs of the end times. Clear as day.


11 posted on 11/07/2011 5:58:38 AM PST by RetiredArmy (As the End Times draws near, remember the Bible WARNED of these times. Be ready!)
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To: bcsco

“What is the deal with MSNBC folks being anti-Second Amendment lately?”
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It’s a Communist thing, don’tcha know?
They are even more Marxist then the Commie News Network.


12 posted on 11/07/2011 5:58:55 AM PST by AlexW
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Of course there would be other rights without the 2nd Amendment.

- the right to an abortion using taxpayer dollars
- the right for sick and old people to die without medical care
- the right for gays to do anything they want
- the right to discriminate against Christians and Jews

There are probably a bunch more.


13 posted on 11/07/2011 6:00:12 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Kaslin
"All Jewish stores are to be destroyed immediately . . . . Jewish synagogues are to be set on fire . . . . ...

Were they original thinkers on these ideas, or did they do a little Koran plagiarizing?

14 posted on 11/07/2011 6:00:36 AM PST by C210N (zer0 - a Marxonist spreading the flames of obamunism wherever he goes.)
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To: Kaslin

better we should get rid of msnbc


15 posted on 11/07/2011 6:01:48 AM PST by veritas2002
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To: Kaslin
These libs think of the Constitution as an anachronism. To them the concept of government with the consent of the governed is little more than a quaint notion or platitude. What they fail to realize is that for the people to truly give their consent, they must also retain the right to refuse or to revoke that consent, otherwise, it's not legitimate consent.

The second amendment is what provides that very right and ability to revoke our consent.

16 posted on 11/07/2011 6:02:08 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Your post is predicated on the assumption that a written set of rules, laws, constitutions, or contracts

trumps the assumption of modern liberals that their intellect and special knowledge of the present to make ad hoc decisions.

They don’t have the same assumption that you do.

This is partly the post-modernist philosophy, and partly the evolutionary mindset (things/people/intellect getting better and better with time).


17 posted on 11/07/2011 6:02:55 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin
What is the deal with MSNBC folks being anti-Second Amendment lately?

Don't get too excited.

This is simply the lefitst MSM's effort to counter the growing Fast and Furious scandal. You are seeing another arm of that initiative coming from Senator Feinstein who is arguing that "anybody" can just walk into gun store and buy anything they want. Oh horrors.

18 posted on 11/07/2011 6:04:09 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: ontap

Careful what you wish for!


19 posted on 11/07/2011 6:05:01 AM PST by RexBeach (There is no such thing as a good tax - Winston Churchill)
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To: C210N
Were they original thinkers on these ideas, or did they do a little Koran plagiarizing?

They quoted Martin Luther!

20 posted on 11/07/2011 6:05:13 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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