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Cold Fusion as a technology
Telopolis ^ | November 3 2011 | Haiko Lietz

Posted on 11/04/2011 12:06:12 AM PDT by Kevmo





Cold Fusion as a technology
Haiko Lietz 03.11.2011
Part 10: The Italian engineer Andrea Rossi has reportedly sold a 1-megawatt generator
In January 2011, at the University of Bologna, a generator has been presented which allegedly generated at the push clean energy from the cold fusion of nickel and hydrogen ( cold fusion in the Black Box? ). Ever since the Internet was tracked as a potential breakthrough in energy production moves in circles. Now, obviously is a reactor that can produce one megawatt of thermal power on the market. The estimates range from plain fraud and the beginning of the revolution in the energy sector .



The units of the 28th October 2011 Andrea Rossi has apparently kept his word. On 14 January 2011 he had announced that they have built a market-ready by October 2011, 1-megawatt generator. At that time, scientists at the University of Bologna, the reactor is measured by the Italian engineer and had come to a power output of 12 kilowatts .

On 28 October has now reportedly a known company not taken the megawatt prototype technology and purchased. According to the acceptance report of the reactor has five and a half hours without external power supply 470 kilowatts produced. Although this is only half the promised performance is sufficient, but not always, around 470 homes with energy supply. According to Rossi, throttling was necessary, as requested by customers to switch off the power supply. Upon approval, said he:
Think you can reach out to the hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent in nuclear fusion research in the attempt, a COP of 1.1. With 470 kilowatts without any fuel, we now have a theoretically infinite capacity figure reached. I think this is a breakthrough. Of course this is just the first step. But it is a very important first step .

Andrea Rossi
Rossi and his co-author Sergio Focardi of the University of Bologna explain the energy production by the cold fusion of nickel and hydrogen. A radiation physicist Universtät of Bologna has confirmed once again that no harmful radiation was detected. The rest of the measurements, however, was entirely in the hands of Italian engineers of the buyer. These were systematically by about 25 invited participants screened, because the buyer wants to remain unknown. Known is only the name of the engineer, who made the purchase, a certain Mr Domenico Fioravanti.

The megawatt generator in operation This lack is not only scientifically unsatisfactory, as the insider and archivist of the field of Jed Rothwell comments
The polite skeptics will say that Rossi has not adduced any incontrovertible proof of his allegations. I must agree. He could do that easily, but has decided against it. ... If you the [acceptance report] believes the matter is clear. A measurement error is excluded. I believe it, but I must also admit that there could be a gigantic and expensive hoax. I admit that this is a tiny chance. There is no independent evidence that the document is genuine .

Jed Rothwell
One of those who Rossi assume a fraud , is the professional journalist Steve Krivit New Energy Times of service industry. However, no evidence he has. Wants to realize who gets the impression of a hard-working engineer who is obsessed with an idea, a technology and divulge any secrets here - who has watched Rossi - what he writes in his blog how he experiments with presents and treats people. He has refused large sums of money and even his house sold , to develop the megawatt reactor. Display

If there is any evidence of fraud, would the scientists at the University of Bologna, which examines the reactor and a research contract with Rossi srl company EON and Leonardo Corporation have signed to put the reputation of the oldest university in Europe reckless risk. Giuseppe Levi of the University of Bologna, the experiment was of 28 October 2011 an "independent" and "further proof that it works "(highlighted by Levi). He wants to comment on allegations of fraud against non Telepolis: "In science, facts and the truth always win."
Several experiments this year
After the experiment on 14 January 2011 there was a series of further came, in part or failed independent tests. On 29 March Sven Kullander of the Swedish Uppsala University participated and Hanno Essén by the Swedish Royal Institute of Technology ( interview ) participated in an experiment in Bologna. As Levi before she had the opportunity to inspect all components except for the approximately 50 cubic centimeters in diameter reactor chamber .

Since they had measured the energy output of 25 kilowatt hours, shut them out of any chemical energy source, "The only alternative explanation is that the measured energy is generated by a nuclear reaction." In July, Rossi exchanged and scientists at Uppsala University from a potential research project. In parallel, Rossi had the research department of the U.S. space agency appealed . Tests in which NASA scientists were present in September are, according to New Energy Times, however, failed. NASA sees in Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, the technical term for phenomena such as cold fusion, the "currently most interesting and most promising [technology sector]."

Andrea Rossi-megawatt einer Anlage. Bild: Massimo Brega / Focus / Focus.it

The last test prior to acceptance of demonstrate with Rossi wanted the reactor can produce without a supply of energy, took place on 6 October. Available data from this experiment that is just because the journalist Mats Lewan NyTeknik of the connected measuring instruments had read. Rossi initially wanted only to show that the reactor will remain hot for hours without power supply .

That he did this and also the temperature at times even dramatic rise is proof enough for Rothwell anomalous for energy production. Ultimately, Rossi fact that he has not considered tips to improve the measurement arrangement, helped also that this experiment is measured technically challenged. "The experiment was closer to be credible, than ever before," concludes the Americans Horace Heffner, "only a few changes would have made a big difference." Rossi is not a scientist - Focardi not even know the secret, the secret catalyst. Rossi is one solely for the market .

Who is the buyer?
According to Rossi, the pilot plant has now been handed over to the buyer. A second would be delivered in three months to another customer. Next year he wants with his company, 30-100 plants build. Who should buy one wants to report .

Originally the test was on 28 October, along with the Greek consortium Defkalion green technologies are implemented. Defkalion had visited on a prominent press conference on 23 June 2011 its product for the generation of "cheap and clean heat energy" on the basis of Rossi's invention presented. Defkalion and Rossi but have now separated .

However, this may come in competition, because, although Rossi said that the technology has not Defkalion, the Greeks sought at the market. An own-megawatt reactor is to be completed later this year and in early 2012 production going. Rossi now has patent protection in Italy, but still no international patent. And he is determined to protect his secret. According to own statements , he developed a process that destroyed the reactor core, if anyone tries to open it.

Meanwhile, speculation run wild, which is the organization that has purchased the first reactor. The speculation goes in two directions: first, contains the published Excel file , in which the purchaser has evaluated the data, the document properties under the business entry "Manutencoop Facility Management". As a company , the air-conditioning, refrigeration, fire protection systems and electrical and lighting systems for large building complexes offering , it has great need for effective heat energy, which of course can also convert it into electricity .

The second track leads towards the military. About Colonel engineer Domenico Fioravanti, who made the purchase for the customer, writes Rossi, he was an engineer for NATO with 30 years experience with heat measurements. NyTeknik reporter Levan has detailed talk with Fioravanti and confirms that this has deep knowledge about thermal plants. Fioravanti was also the test of the 6th October as "consultants" present .

Upcoming research projects
If Rossi's company generates revenue, it is also a two-year research project started with the University of Bologna. The group led by Professor Levi is ready to study in the first year of operation of the reactor and try to explain to him the second year. Also, negotiations with the University of Uppsala be resumed. Who wants to wait as a buyer or a journalist for an academic evaluation according to the rules of art, will have to wait two years .

The significance of all current development Terry Blanton has on the vortex-l mailing list, aptly summarized :
If it is a scam, it will probably be Rossi's last. There is a lot of money has been spent. If not, the kids of Occupy says Wall Street that we have a new way to keep them warm .

Terry Blanton
Telepolis > Science


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: cmns; coldfusion; ecat; fraud; lenr; scam
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Unfortunately, if Rossi hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be the customer reps, created an elaborate year-long special-effects-derived series of demos, bribed, hypnotised or otherwise fooled Focardi, Levi, Kullander, Essen, Bianchini, Stremmenos and convinced a bunch of Greek crooks to set up a dummy company called Defkalion to pretend to fight with him over the non-existent eCat, to perpetuate the illusion and spin it off into a competing mirror-scam and convinced his former partners to set up another company called Ampenergo to pretend that they had a contract for The Americas for a substantial sum or that they just did this with no proof because they have worked with Rossi and trust him because he’s such a fine fellow, arranged for Piantelli, Miley and a host of others to try to fool the world into thinking that cold fusion was real, got NASA, SPAWAR, The Defense Threat Reduction Agency and The Defense Intelligence Agency to say nice things about the field, got Bushnell to make a fool of himself, sold his profitable company to his ex-partners in order to spend that wealth on a multi-million dollar scam; certain that once he got all the above ducks in a row he would pretend to sell the first device and then reel in the true target of his dastardly plan – the second (this time genuine) buyer of a 1MW plant that will net him $2 million dollars until they want their money back or sucker a $100 million dollar deal under the table because he has experience in pulling the wool over all these idiotic eyes and knows that they will just take his word for it and not want to test if his 1MW plant can heat a small village without truckloads of coal or oil or a big fat electric cable coming into the container from beneath the floor (no you can’t lift the carpet!) and that, in order to pull this off, Rossi had to risk discovery by interviewing all the people he subsequently fooled so that he could only invite the gullible Professors and not the brilliant anonymous posters on the Internet who surely would have found him out – then all bets are off and I’m with the guys who think that Rossi is an idiot and they are all geniuses .

1 posted on 11/04/2011 12:06:12 AM PDT by Kevmo
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2 posted on 11/04/2011 12:06:55 AM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo
but still no international patent

There is no such thing as an 'international patent'.

The PCT is only a streamlined process for submitting the paperwork. Each country accepts or rejects individually.

3 posted on 11/04/2011 12:18:07 AM PDT by Gideon7
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To: Kevmo
The Italian patent claims an application of a “a method and apparatus for carrying out nickel and hydrogen exothermal reactions.”

Nickel hydrogenation is the basis of the NiMH battery. The technology has been around for decades.

4 posted on 11/04/2011 12:18:51 AM PDT by Gideon7
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To: Gideon7

The technology has been around for decades.
***Cool. If this whole thing turns out to be a chemical reaction, all the better. No NRC oversight.


5 posted on 11/04/2011 12:23:04 AM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo
I believe it, but I must also admit that there could be a gigantic and expensive hoax. I admit that this is a tiny chance. There is no independent evidence that the document is genuine .

My only objection is the use of the word tiny.

6 posted on 11/04/2011 12:51:36 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2800058/posts?page=55#55
To: Moonman62
It appears that a relatively innocuous post responding to you was pulled.
This means I have nothing more to say to you about LENR. Bye.

55 posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 4:41:07 PM by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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7 posted on 11/04/2011 12:53:08 AM PDT by Kevmo (Judicaret spectator se ipso: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo
Ever since the Internet was tracked as a potential breakthrough in energy production moves in circles.

Say what?

8 posted on 11/04/2011 2:22:13 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Kevmo
If it is a scam, it will probably be Rossi's last.

Notice the bias. There never was a first.
9 posted on 11/04/2011 4:27:19 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Kevmo
Is LiveScience a mainstream science website? I just picked up on what may be a significant breakthrough article at their site, linked at RealClearPolitics of all places:

http://www.livescience.com/16864-italian-cold-fusion-machine-passes-test.html

It's surprisingly positive, if LiveScience is a mainstream site. Check it out.

10 posted on 11/04/2011 6:22:07 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Skepticism and Close-mindedness are two very different things.)
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To: Kevmo

Batteries aren’t a source of energy.


11 posted on 11/04/2011 7:13:51 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: aruanan
"If it is a scam, it will probably be Rossi's last."

Notice the bias. There never was a first.

Rossi has been convicted twice for fraud. Additional he says he has an engineering degree. FRAUD! It turns out that his 'engineering degree' was given sold to him by an institution that was shutdown for awarding fake degrees.

12 posted on 11/04/2011 12:06:37 PM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: Kevmo

Why do you keep linking us back to this post?

To: Kevmo
Knock off the personal attacks and seagull nonsense.

54 posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 6:38:43 PM by Admin Moderator

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13 posted on 11/04/2011 12:09:45 PM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: Liberty1970
Check it out.

I did. They also carry this story ...

Eat the Old: Could Mass Cannibalism Solve a Future Food Shortage?

14 posted on 11/04/2011 12:14:19 PM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas
Personally my favorite was "Shake, Shake, Shake: Dinosaur Flirting Technique Revealed." But taking a little time to peruse their homepage, there doesn't seem to be any systemic bias in their choice of news stories. A (very) brief Wikipedia entry on them simply describes it as a conduit for articles from various MSM type sources.

So it looks like what passes for science in the popular mind these days, but I would agree it has a low bar for entry if you have something enticing to report.

15 posted on 11/04/2011 12:47:01 PM PDT by Liberty1970 (Skepticism and Close-mindedness are two very different things.)
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To: NewinTexsas
It would be helpful if you could link to or provide specific information regarding the comment that he has been twice convicted of fraud. I know he was in all kind of legal trouble following the collapse of Petroldragon. But his defenders say this was due either to mafioso retaliation or the government abruptly changing regulations on him such that his operations became unprofitable and saddled with 'hazardous waste' that had been redesignated as such.

If this is basically the case and he was earnest about trying to run a successful business creating biodiesel, then I don't see how he can be fairly described as committing 'fraud.' So I would like to hear your explanation or a reference explaining this claim. The fact that investors lost money, etc., does not itself justify a fraud charge unless someone can show that Rossi _intended_ to take their money without recompense or any chance for the business to succeed.

I find it interesting, for example, that there has been little out of Italy itself attacking his past during the ECAT saga. Instead it's been critics further afield. Shouldn't Italians themselves who were burned by him be the first to denounce him? Or am I missing some major criticisms/warnings coming from Italian media that you could point out to me?

16 posted on 11/04/2011 1:08:20 PM PDT by Liberty1970 (Skepticism and Close-mindedness are two very different things.)
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To: Liberty1970; Kevmo

I find it interesting that almost no one writes about the ‘balance bracelet’ fraud. Not to mention the homeopathic medicine fraud supported by Kevmo and Dr. Josephson.


17 posted on 11/04/2011 1:26:55 PM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: Kevmo
then all bets are off

Does this refer to your INTRADE shares?

18 posted on 11/04/2011 1:39:32 PM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: Liberty1970
The fact that investors lost money, etc.,

So who would put their money into the hands of a proven loser surrounded with allegations and convictions for fraue?

19 posted on 11/04/2011 3:08:05 PM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas

“I find it interesting that almost no one writes about the ‘balance bracelet’ fraud. Not to mention the homeopathic medicine fraud supported by Kevmo and Dr. Josephson.”

Please, do tell.


20 posted on 11/04/2011 4:13:31 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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