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Biden’s absurd claims about rising rape and murder rates
Washington Post ^ | Oct 21 2011 | By Glenn Kessler

Posted on 10/21/2011 10:02:06 AM PDT by NoLibZone

In essence, the reporting of this simple data, whether using Biden's data or city data, does not describe changes in the incidents of homicides in Flint or any city.

The Facts

Flint is certainly a violent city, ranked number one in many categories. The website of the Flint Police Department only gives data through 2008, but both the FBI and the Michigan State Police have more recent figures that are provided to them by the Flint police. The numbers are not precisely the same because of different reporting requirements, but they are roughly the same—and show a different picture than reported by Biden.

The Flint website for 2008 shows the same figures that Biden cited: 35 murders and 91 rapes.

Here’s what the FBI shows: 2008

City of Flint: 32 murders, 103 rapes

Surrounding area: 37 murders, 239 rapes

RATE PER 100,000 INHABITANTS: murder, 8.6; rape 55.5 2009

City of Flint: 36 murders, 91 rapes

Surrounding area: 44 murders, 235 rapes

RATE PER 100,000 INHABITANTS: murder, 10.3; rape, 55.1 2010

City of Flint: 53 murders, 92 rapes

Surrounding area: 58 murders, 225 rapes

RATE PER 100,000 INHABITANTS: murder, 13.8; rape 53.7

More important than the raw figures is the rate per 100,000 individuals. Murder did go up—though the rate did not double from 2009 to 2010, as Biden claimed. But rape has gone down. Biden actually asserted it had tripled.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 0bamasusefulidiot; biden; bidenbs; clinton; cops; flint; joebiden; plugs; pork; rape; rapes; rapists; stimulus; teachers; unions
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1 posted on 10/21/2011 10:02:10 AM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

STAND UP AND LET ‘EM SEE YOU!


2 posted on 10/21/2011 10:06:09 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Obama's presidency is shovel-ready; let's bury it in 2012!)
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So you've decided to sit this Freepathon out, eh?
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3 posted on 10/21/2011 10:06:41 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: NoLibZone

It’s scary to think that a man so incredibly stupid is but a heart beat away from the presidency.


4 posted on 10/21/2011 10:06:41 AM PDT by South40 ('Heartless' since 1957)
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To: NoLibZone

DNC lie du jour.


5 posted on 10/21/2011 10:09:40 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Democrats are violent. Prisons are overflowing with democrats convicted of violent crimes.)
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To: South40

I think John McCain is trying to edge into Slow Joe’s job.


6 posted on 10/21/2011 10:10:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: NoLibZone
Here are the United States Crime Rates, 1960 to 2010

In 2010, there were 14,748 murders and 84,767 forcible rapes that the cops did not stop, which total 99,515 violent incidences nationwide.

How many would be stopped by the cops who where already on duty? Answer: None, the statistics are static for 2010.

However, if the cops could have stopped every one of these 100,000 violent incidences, at a cost of 35 billion dollars, each violent incident stoppage would cost the taxpayer $350,000

$35B divided by 100,000 = $ 350,000

7 posted on 10/21/2011 10:14:19 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: cripplecreek

Juan McCain should run as a democRATl he is what’s wring with the Republican Party.


8 posted on 10/21/2011 10:15:39 AM PDT by South40 ('Heartless' since 1957)
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To: NoLibZone
Batshit Crazy Joe Biden...
9 posted on 10/21/2011 10:17:51 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
$35B divided by 100,000 = $ 350,000

Another way of looking at it: Each unionized cop gets about $150,000 per year in wages and benefits.

So the Democrats and the unionize LEOs would posit that stopping one violent incidence, at $350,000 per incident, justifies the hiring of at least two more unionized cops and a lot more SWAT equipment.

This is the new Common Sense.

10 posted on 10/21/2011 10:21:22 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: NoLibZone

An idiot making a stupid statement. SOP for Biden.


11 posted on 10/21/2011 10:24:58 AM PDT by mulligan
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To: NoLibZone
Republicans really suck at Hyperbole War. You don't come back from a comment like Biden's with silly facts about how rape has actually gone down. All that does is accept the premise of federal bailouts for bankrupt leftist states.

This is how you do hyperbole. Welfare recipients support rapists. or.. Governors who don't balance their budgets cause rape and murder. Governor Jerry Brown supports rape and murder. You see, if rape and murder is caused by states going bankrupt, then anything that causes those states to go bankrupt, ie welfare and leftist governors, are the cause of the rape and murder.

Biden proves liberals support rape and murder. [end-of-story]!

12 posted on 10/21/2011 10:29:36 AM PDT by douginthearmy
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To: mulligan
. . " hey, hey, I didn't, no, no, no I dint I dint wait, no, I dinnt say, wait a minit pally, hey, don't you screw aroun wit me, pal, wait. - Joey "Plugs" Biden the honorable vice president of the United States. UNBELIEVABLE
13 posted on 10/21/2011 10:35:59 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: douginthearmy

Tell it like it is, Doug.

The republicans come off as a pantload full of gay a$$ poindexters accepting this premise and holding up their Pee Chee folders full of facts.

They really need to be schooled on smashmouth soundbites. A quick parry to the ear hole with a railroad spike is so much more delicioso than their tired old toothless pablum spit up.

Yeah, we know the crap coming out of Bidens cakehole is fantasy- just counter with shock and awe instead of your sleepy time numbers.

Get a freaking clue you bunch of nancies.


14 posted on 10/21/2011 10:46:06 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: NoLibZone

Sort of strange that the city and the surrounding area have pretty equal numbers of murders, but the surrounding has more than twice the number of rapes.

There are a lot of things that might explain it - I wonder what does.


15 posted on 10/21/2011 10:55:12 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: atc23

You can use a lot of hyperbole and get away with it if you control the media. If you do not, it starts to slide off of people who find it over the top.

The conservatives have been cut out of the media for at least 50 years, unless they were ultra polite and rational.

Now that the new media is taking away the progressive monopoly on public debate, the rules are changing.

Maybe it is time for a bit more conservative hyperbole.


16 posted on 10/21/2011 11:42:33 AM PDT by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: atc23

Do you mind if I frame your reply and put it up in my office.. you had me rolling. “Get a freaking clue you bunch of nancies.” Zactly!


17 posted on 10/21/2011 11:50:00 AM PDT by douginthearmy
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To: NoLibZone

Biden is evidently saying that were he poor, he´d be a rapist and murderer too.


18 posted on 10/21/2011 11:52:21 AM PDT by onedoug (lf)
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To: South40
This is what happens when you suffer from the disease called "GUN CONTROLITUS"

You think it is better to increase government spending for 911 service than empowering people to defend themselves.

19 posted on 10/21/2011 2:45:40 PM PDT by wmileo
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To: NoLibZone
Never in my life did I imagine Joe Biden would be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

It boggles my mind to this day.

20 posted on 10/21/2011 6:21:54 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelected Obama.)
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