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Rick Perry — Best Hope for Solid Conservative in 2012
NewsMax ^ | Oct 18, 2011 | John Stemberger

Posted on 10/18/2011 10:13:19 AM PDT by bullypulpit

I have good news and bad news for conservatives. But the good news and the bad news are both the same thing: We have six very impressive, lifelong conservative candidates running for the presidency.

They are the smartest candidates, the most principled candidates, the most patriotic candidates, the most persuasive candidates, and the candidates with the best ideas.

The problem lies in the fact that conservatives do not have a single favorite candidate. They have six favorite candidates! And as long as they remain split between each of their six “favorite” candidates, they will eventually help nominate Mitt Romney — the very candidate they least trust on the issues.

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There is only one scenario where this can be stopped: Evangelical and tea party conservatives must immediately unite behind Texas Gov. Rick Perry. Rick Perry is the most conservative candidate who is also electable. Perry is our last and best hope to send a solid conservative to the White House.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; alreadyposted; amnesty; gop; heartless; hispandering; oldarticle; perry; primaries; rickperry
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"John Stemberger is an Orlando attorney and is the former political director for the Republican Party of Florida. He has served as an adviser to state, federal, and presidential candidates for the last two decades and led the successful 2008 statewide campaign to pass the Florida Marriage Protection Amendment with a 62 percent vote margin."
1 posted on 10/18/2011 10:13:24 AM PDT by bullypulpit
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To: bullypulpit

His record on illegals stinks. Romney is better I am a one issue voter.


2 posted on 10/18/2011 10:14:46 AM PDT by bilhosty (Don' t tax people tax newsprint)
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To: bilhosty

Romney got caught with illegal yard workers, not once, but TWICE.

How much conviction can you have about illegal aliens if you employ them?


3 posted on 10/18/2011 10:16:37 AM PDT by Politicalmom (I am intrigued and open to the Bush administrationÂ’s amnesty proposal. -Rick Perry)
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To: bilhosty

Which issue? I’m curious to know what issue Willard stands on.


4 posted on 10/18/2011 10:16:57 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: bullypulpit

Rough proposition if he doesn’t turn this around... and QUICK.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2794114/posts


5 posted on 10/18/2011 10:17:44 AM PDT by astuddis
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To: bullypulpit

Unfortunately Perry’s debate performance sank his chances at the nomination.


6 posted on 10/18/2011 10:18:06 AM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: bullypulpit

An article telling conservatives what we “must do” isn’t going to gain a lot of traction, you know.


7 posted on 10/18/2011 10:18:40 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: bilhosty

Too bad your issues don’t include Obamacare (Romneycare), Climate Change Hoax(Romney Cap and Trade), or gun control (Romney restrictions). Also, I haven’t seen any indication that Romney is strong on illegal immigration.


8 posted on 10/18/2011 10:23:31 AM PDT by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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To: bullypulpit

Perry electable? Not based upon his debate performances he’s not!!


9 posted on 10/18/2011 10:24:08 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: bullypulpit

Any one of those 6 “conservative” candidates can make the same claim - stopping Romney effectively means ALL must support the writer’s conservative. To break this cycle, I’ll put in a stake here and now: All must rally around Cain!


10 posted on 10/18/2011 10:24:13 AM PDT by C210N (zer0 - a Marxonist spreading the flames of obamunism wherever he goes.)
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To: bullypulpit

—Rick Perry — Best Hope for Solid Conservative in 2012 —

If Cain dies, yes.


11 posted on 10/18/2011 10:25:17 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: bullypulpit
Has john been a life long drug user??
12 posted on 10/18/2011 10:26:17 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: bullypulpit
Really?! John Stemberger obviously doesn't read his own publication: Herman Cain wins 71% of the vote in Newsmax poll (out of 49,000)
13 posted on 10/18/2011 10:26:29 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: mgstarr

—Unfortunately Perry’s debate performance sank his chances at the nomination.—

That coupled with Cain’s rise. The Reagan and Palin conservatives are now Cain conservatives. That leaves Perry with the Romney table droppings.


14 posted on 10/18/2011 10:26:58 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: bullypulpit

Newsmax is a known pro-romney poblication and John Stemberger is trying to split the conservative vote to deflate Cain. A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney.


15 posted on 10/18/2011 10:26:58 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion (Heartless)
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To: bullypulpit

Sorry, but your characterization of Rick Perry as a “Solid Conservative” is a lie as long as he keeps his open border positions/Suppor of Illegal Immigration


16 posted on 10/18/2011 10:27:15 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: bullypulpit
Rick Perry — Best Hope for Solid Conservative in 2012

Not for this heartless Texan, he isn't.
17 posted on 10/18/2011 10:30:34 AM PDT by texas_mrs (Heartless Conservative & Native Texan)
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To: bullypulpit
The problem lies in the fact that conservatives do not have a single favorite candidate. They have six favorite candidates! And as long as they remain split between each of their six “favorite” candidates, they will eventually help nominate Mitt Romney — the very candidate they least trust on the issues.

It was true in 2008 and it will be true in 2012.

18 posted on 10/18/2011 10:32:12 AM PDT by McGruff (Keep the House, take the Senate.)
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To: bullypulpit
We have six very impressive, lifelong conservative candidates running for the presidency.

I must have missed them......................

19 posted on 10/18/2011 10:33:47 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: texas_mrs

Amen! I say keep Perry as far from the White House as possible.


20 posted on 10/18/2011 10:36:05 AM PDT by waiyu (Common sense isn't common to everyone.)
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To: SoldierDad
Perry electable? Not based upon his debate performances he’s not!!

It's not La Raza Rick Perry's debate performances that killed his campaign but the issue of his pandering to ILLEGAL invaders and his inability to logically defend it.

21 posted on 10/18/2011 10:36:29 AM PDT by South40 ('Heartless' since 1957)
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To: bilhosty
He actually is strong on immigration.He has been criticized in all his elections for being too tough on immigration. His instate tuition is a money issue. Texas has no income so if you are in a state for 3 years you are a resident. States have to clean up Federal messes.He can not deport anyone. States on the border deal with immigration based upon money. Is it cheaper to have productive illegals or not allow illegals any benefit and have unproductive people who are in criminal courts. Life is not just black and white it has shades of color.
22 posted on 10/18/2011 10:38:51 AM PDT by pasr
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To: bullypulpit

Agreed, but you won’t convince the “kill them illegals” crowd.


23 posted on 10/18/2011 10:38:54 AM PDT by magritte
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To: bilhosty

Read “This is Herman Cain”,, and you will see why why he is exactly the man we need at this time. If Romney couldn’t beat McCain, how does anyone think he can beat Obama? You might take a look at 2 Thessalonians 2, then Google The White Horse Prophecy. We really need to do our homework before voting in the primaries.


24 posted on 10/18/2011 10:39:29 AM PDT by Paperdoll (I like Herman Cain.)
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To: cuban leaf

Cain is marvelous. Perry is less than stellar, but he is a conservative politician. My fear is that although Cain is extrememly smart, he does not have a politicians instinct to work with other politicians. He will be fighting an uphill battle before he starts. My dream ticket is Perry/Cain with Herman pulling the heavy load and Perry helping to grease the skids. Romney is just Barry lite and that has not been working for anyone. When good is bad, not must be the choice.


25 posted on 10/18/2011 10:43:32 AM PDT by toolman1401
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To: bullypulpit
The problem lies in the fact that conservatives do not have a single favorite candidate. They have six favorite candidates!

Can't we at least get through a few of the primaries before settling on one of the candidates? Otherwise, why even bother with the primaries?

26 posted on 10/18/2011 10:47:29 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: bullypulpit; shield
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27 posted on 10/18/2011 10:47:31 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: bullypulpit

The man cannot hold his own in a debate. The democrat candidate and his allies in the media will make mincemeat out of him.


28 posted on 10/18/2011 10:48:12 AM PDT by Adams (Fight on!)
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To: pasr

He didnt help when we were trying toput up the wall. and he was so compassionate to wet backs in a recent debate. he is a part of the W. Bush thing that David Hill mentiioned.

http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/david-hill/181353-perry-just-a-texan-being-texan


29 posted on 10/18/2011 10:48:57 AM PDT by bilhosty (Don' t tax people tax newsprint)
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30 posted on 10/18/2011 10:50:40 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: cuban leaf

Perish the thought! We need to pray that Herman Cain is divinely protected from any harm or illness. And that his path is cleared to victory.


31 posted on 10/18/2011 10:51:36 AM PDT by Paperdoll (I like Herman Cain.)
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To: bullypulpit

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!!!!


32 posted on 10/18/2011 10:54:50 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: bilhosty

Rush just said that this is no time to move for the moderate candidate, that this is the time to go for the most conservative candidate that we can find. Who do you think that is? Who is the MOST conservative candidate who is running for the Republican nomination?


33 posted on 10/18/2011 10:54:50 AM PDT by Eva
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To: bullypulpit
As someone, among millions upon millions which Rick Perry has outrageously deemed "heartless" for wanting to uphold the rule of AMERICAN law by denying ILLEGAL (what is it about the word "ILLEGAL" these clowns, like Perry, et. al, fail to understand?) ALIENS in-state tuition, his outrageous stand on this issue has cost him my support and vote.

If voters want soft on ILLEGAL ALIENS, they can vote for Obama. As for me and mine; Herman Cain is going to get our vote here in NH because unlike Perry, he is in reality the "Best Hope for a Solid Conservative."

"Oh, but he has no money", you say... that is ok, once the genuine grass-roots movement, the Tea Party gets behind him, that will change.

34 posted on 10/18/2011 11:02:05 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil and from those perpetuating it, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: SoldierDad

Exactly!

The thought of Perry on a national stage, live on television, debating Obama...

[shudder!]


35 posted on 10/18/2011 11:03:57 AM PDT by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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To: bullypulpit

My sympathies to Perry supporters, because he is unlikely to come back. I went through the same disappointment with Duncan Hunter, but this time a progressive fraud isn’t our only choice left.


36 posted on 10/18/2011 11:06:06 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Eva

“Who is the MOST conservative candidate who is running for the Republican nomination?”

Cain and Bachmann.


37 posted on 10/18/2011 11:07:02 AM PDT by Marie (Cain 9s Have Teeth)
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To: bilhosty
His record on illegals stinks. Romney is better I am a one issue voter.

I am not a one issue voter. I think that's stupid. But if I was, it would be guns, and Myth's record is he has signed gun bans, and supports reinstating the Clinton "assault weapons" ban. As for illegals, Myth has no "record".

38 posted on 10/18/2011 11:08:04 AM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: bullypulpit
Rick Perry — Best Hope for Solid Conservative in 2012

Well I wish Rick would hurry up and introduce us to him or her.


39 posted on 10/18/2011 11:13:09 AM PDT by Iron Munro (“We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them." -- Mitt Romney)
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To: bullypulpit
How is our best hope a man who can't debate or articulate a reasoned verbal defense (or even a proper recitation) of conservative principles and values? I was a George W. Bush supporter, but I grew VERY tired of his inability to communicate well in front of a camera. We need a well-spoken candidate who is quick on his/her feet and able to debate Obama - at the very minimum.

In my view, there are only several candidates who have the proper communication skills necessary to debate Obama and defend conservative positions - Gingrich, Cain, Romney or Santorum. Period.

Perry seems to have problems just stringing words together in what would otherwise be known as "sentences".
40 posted on 10/18/2011 11:17:24 AM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: Marie

I actually think that Santorum is the most conservative, despite his one mistake in endorsing Arlen Specter.


41 posted on 10/18/2011 11:18:10 AM PDT by Eva
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To: smoothsailing
In 1993, Cain was one of the leaders fighting Clinton-care. The Clinton's attempt at their version of Obamacare. What was Rick Perry doing in 1993?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Perry#Early_political_career

In 1993, Perry, while serving as Texas agriculture commissioner, expressed support for the Clinton health care reform proposal, describing it as “most commendable.” The health care plan was ultimately unsuccessful due to Republican congressional opposition.[23][24][25][26][27] In 2005, after being questioned on the issue by a potential opponent in the Republican governor primary, Perry said that he expressed his support only in order to get Clinton to pay more attention to rural health care.[28]

42 posted on 10/18/2011 11:18:49 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: bullypulpit

The man has tanked in the polls. If he is the best we can do, we might as well throw in the towel.

Geesh


43 posted on 10/18/2011 11:19:44 AM PDT by dforest
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To: bullypulpit; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; ...

Perry needs to come out and make a public ‘read my lips’ pledge that he will under NO circumstances sign a bill legalizing any one living in this country illegally.

As it stands he has convinced me and others that given the chance he would destroy the party helping Dems with another bi-partision Liberal-RINO immigration reform amnesty bill, much like Bush did in 2007. “See you at the signing”


44 posted on 10/18/2011 11:20:04 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Cain :"My parents didn't raise me to beg the government for other peoples money")
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To: Jmouse007

Cain’s problem besides money, and his terrible tax plan, is that he has no organization in any early election states. I think he didn’t ever expect to be a front runner. He joined the race to shake things up and get his ideas out (much like Newt), and to sell his book. Now suddenly, by default. he is a front runner, but he’s still acting like he’s on a book tour. He’s not in the early primary states, and doesn’t seem to be building any organiztion there. It’ll be interesting, to say the least, if he can translate debate success and nationwide popularity into votes early on.


45 posted on 10/18/2011 11:20:15 AM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: McGruff

In 1993, Cain was one of the leaders fighting Clinton-care. The Clinton’s attempt at their version of Obamacare. What was Rick Perry doing in 1993?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Perry#Early_political_career

In 1993, Perry, while serving as Texas agriculture commissioner, expressed support for the Clinton health care reform proposal, describing it as “most commendable.” The health care plan was ultimately unsuccessful due to Republican congressional opposition.[23][24][25][26][27] In 2005, after being questioned on the issue by a potential opponent in the Republican governor primary, Perry said that he expressed his support only in order to get Clinton to pay more attention to rural health care.[28]


46 posted on 10/18/2011 11:20:47 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: magritte; All

I just wanted to say to everyone that Herman Cain won’t kill all the illegals or build a 5-mile deep minefield between Mexico and America. Nor will he simply deport them all.

Herman Cain is weak on immigration, thus is a pro-Mexican traitor.


47 posted on 10/18/2011 11:22:57 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: MNJohnnie

I guess there’s a point there somewhere, with you it’s often hard to tell.


48 posted on 10/18/2011 11:24:19 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: C210N

Bottom line is Conservatives must rally around one candidate to keep Romney from winning the Primaries. Rush has refused to endorse one candidate or another, so we need to get Bachmann and Santorum to drop out and support one candidate. I don’t like Perry on immigration (since I live in occupied Kalifornia), but the author is probably right - Perry is the most electable Conservative, unless Cain puts together a major campaign organization quickly.


49 posted on 10/18/2011 11:25:01 AM PDT by kgrif_Salinas
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To: South40

Perry’s “attempts to defend” his actions were incoherent at best. It is his debate performance that has sunk his candidacy. Without the ability to clearly define himself, and defend his record, he dropped quickly in the polls.


50 posted on 10/18/2011 11:35:55 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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