Posted on 10/16/2011 9:20:33 AM PDT by Steelfish
San Francisco Restaurants Propose Standard 25 Per Cent Tip Restaurants in San Francisco have angered customers by proposing to make a 25 per cent tip standard with meals.
According to a recent survey San Francisco diners are the worst tippers in America Photo: ALAMY By Nick Allen
Most diners in the United States currently give a voluntary tip of between 15 and 20 per cent depending on the service and the quality of the food. But the new measure, which is reportedly supported by high class eateries, would be mandatory.
According to a recent survey San Francisco diners are the worst tippers in America.
They give an average of 18.6 per cent of the cost of their meal, which placed them bottom of the list alongside residents in Seattle. Customers have reacted badly to the proposal for 25 per cent tipping, saying it would lead to sloppy service and that restaurants are being greedy.
Mike Alexander of Antioch near San Francisco, told the Contra Costa Times: "They have to be kidding. The whole purpose of a tip is to reward service.
"If the price is dictated it's not a tip. If they're serious they'll meet a lot of resistance. It seems like everyone is trying to squeeze another buck out of us." Customer Candel Garcia told the newspaper: "If they try it, people will vote with their feet. Tips should be earned, not expected. I usually tip 10 per cent or 15 per cent, which I think is fair."
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Sounds like a plan to get put out of business to me.
What--liberals are deadbeats with their own money? Gee, Who'd'a guessed?
If it is mandatory it is not a tip, its part of the price.
Call it a price hike, that is what it is.
Restaurants?
I hope it passes. It will be nice to see liberalism go full bore, and collapse on itself. Only then will these idiot voters change their votes.
Crappy stats with a goal of a Leftwing union deal.
I tip according to service. I used to wait tables, so I’m usually very generous, but if the service stinks, forget it. If tipping is mandatory, expect crappy service.
According to a recent survey San Francisco diners are the worst tippers in America.
They give an average of 18.6 per cent of the cost of their meal, which placed them bottom of the list alongside residents in Seattle.
Um... I'm a bit confused. If most diners in America give between 15 and 20% tip, and San Franciscans give an average of 18.6%, how does that make them the worst tippers in America?
A 25% tip is just wage subsidization. Kinda cool when your servers make good money and stay on the job because you pay minimum wage and your patrons kick in the rest.
People will go to places that do not require such practices. the economy sucks. businesss suffers already why squash any customer you have.
on the other hand. the waitresses are taxed on a % of sales for their tips. is it fair they get taxed on money they did not earn?
25% extra payment for bad service and attitude. I don’t see anything positive coming from this government intervention of free trade.
The traffic in San Francisco is a serious deterrent. Who wants to fight that and everything else when it's so easy to get out of the city for a nice restaurant or anything else.
When I lived in San Francisco, I told my wife: "I can get anything in the world I want here, but it'll take me all day to go and get it." We left.
Here in The Middle of Nowhere I can still get anything in the world I want--through the internet. It comes to ME! And no traffic! No panhandlers! No feces-covered sidewalks! No druggies! No San Francisco morons! I LOVE IT HERE!
Detroit is the future of San Francisco.
The traffic in San Francisco is a serious deterrent. Who wants to fight that and everything else when it's so easy to get out of the city for a nice restaurant or anything else.
When I lived in San Francisco, I told my wife: "I can get anything in the world I want here, but it'll take me all day to go and get it." We left.
Here in The Middle of Nowhere I can still get anything in the world I want--through the internet. It comes to ME! And no traffic! No panhandlers! No feces-covered sidewalks! No druggies! No San Francisco morons! I LOVE IT HERE!
Detroit is the future of San Francisco.
Spot on on all accounts.
This is just oink oink greedy. California already requires that restaurants pay waiters above the national minimum wage, exclusive of tips. I’ll be sure never to eat in a restaurant in SF or anywhere else that includes what is supposed to be a gratuity as a 25% charge in a bill.
A second thought: As the economy has worsened and gas prices have skyrocketed, we have had to make budgetary changes. The biggest one was less eating out. I admit that when money wasn’t so tight, we used to eat out a lot, a couple of times a week. Now, it is down to once a month. Twice maybe if we have a special occasion. So if they were to implement this here, it would be even less. Why are businesses doing this to themselves? Eating out is probably the one expense people are most willing to dump in tough times, so why give anyone another reason?
Tips are generally not legally enforceable, even if the restaurant claims it’s mandatory. The customer is generally not legally obligated to pay the tip.
“A 25% tip is just wage subsidization. Kinda cool when your servers make good money and stay on the job because you pay minimum wage and your patrons kick in the rest”
Dead on
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