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Cain Says His Deadly Fence Plan Was 'a Joke'
The New York Times ^ | Sunday, October 16, 2011 | Susan Saulny

Posted on 10/16/2011 9:18:08 AM PDT by kristinn

At two campaign rallies in Tennessee on Saturday night, the Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said that part of his immigration policy would be to build an electrified fence on the country’s border with Mexico that could kill people trying to enter the country illegally.

But by Sunday morning, in a dramatic change of tone, Mr. Cain, a former restaurant executive, said he was only kidding.

“That’s a joke,” Mr. Cain told the journalist David Gregory during an appearance on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” where he was asked about the electrified fence. “That’s not a serious plan. I’ve also said America needs to get a sense of humor.”

Mr. Cain’s attempt to pass off incendiary comments as nothing but a joke may take more effort, however. In making the initial remarks about an electrified fence killing illegal immigrants, Mr. Cain was detailed and repetitive. He did not introduce his thoughts as anything but serious commentary, beginning with the words, “We have a crisis of illegal immigration.”

And the crowds responded with cheers, not laughs.

(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderfence; bordersecurity; cain; electricfence; fence; fleabaggers; hermancain; illegalimmigration; sliming4illegals
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Link to last night's 800+ comments thread on FR about Cain's electrified border fence comments.
1 posted on 10/16/2011 9:18:15 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn
Funny now Cain is getting Palin treatment by both the Romney/Perry camp and the Leftist media.
2 posted on 10/16/2011 9:22:52 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: kristinn

The joke is on David Gregory.

The electrified fence will be built.


3 posted on 10/16/2011 9:23:01 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion (Heartless)
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To: kristinn

It was, but it sure brought the perry amnesty supporters to the light of day. Some of the perry anti border security went nuts.


4 posted on 10/16/2011 9:23:16 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrat)
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To: kristinn

well, some people are fed up enough to take that comment seriously. the people coming here are convinced they are the indigenous people and we are the invaders. they have the attitude that everything here belongs to them.

I read somewhere that hitler had that plan to tell them the same lies in order to keep the US out of WWI & WWII. well the story got out anyhow and we are now dealing with the attitude here from a lot of them today.


5 posted on 10/16/2011 9:23:33 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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When he’s talking to the media elites. Ah come on dave buddy, wink wink, I was just feeding some red meat to the crazies. un I mean...my voting base.

Yeah a real man of integrity.


6 posted on 10/16/2011 9:24:05 AM PDT by marty60
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To: BarnacleCenturion

They may first have to build an electrified fence around Wall St.


7 posted on 10/16/2011 9:24:15 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: kristinn

Having a sense of humor is one thing but talking policy of a joke, without clarifying is wrong. Some people will believe it.

It seems a sneaky, slick, back-door way to lead people on.


8 posted on 10/16/2011 9:26:44 AM PDT by Irenic
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To: marty60

LOL and you are one of the amnesty supporting perry people that went nuts,


9 posted on 10/16/2011 9:26:59 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrat)
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To: marty60

Thank you for bringing the Open Boards Perry camp’s opinion to this thread


10 posted on 10/16/2011 9:27:21 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: marty60

Thank you for bringing the Open Borders Perry camp’s opinion to this thread


11 posted on 10/16/2011 9:27:34 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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“That’s not a serious plan”. I felt that way about 9-9-9.

Cain is sure funny. Like when he said he’d never appoint a muslim to his cabinet, before he had to say he didn’t mean that either. Or calling Perry insensitive for a rock Perry had nothing to do with.

I don’t think Cain is used to having people call him on his words. As CEO he was a dictator, he would decide what to do and his will was done. As a lobbyist, he said whatever he needed to do to get politicians to pass bills to help his clients. As a talk show host, he said what his audience wanted to here.

Now he has people hanging on his words, as if they mean something, and it’s biting him again and again.

Of course, some people here at FR are probably upset he doesn’t think crossing our border illegally should be a death sentence.

I wonder when he’ll tell us that his praise for Romney was a joke, or he was just kidding when he said he thought Greenspan was a great fed chair. Wonder what else was just a joke — so far, it’s only been things that turned out to bite him, so maybe he’s only “kidding” if he says something people don’t like.


12 posted on 10/16/2011 9:27:34 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: marty60

The bombing starts in 5 minutes (or was it ten:?


13 posted on 10/16/2011 9:30:57 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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There was a long thread on FR yesterday about Cain's remarks on the electrified fence.

I'd say half the respondents supported zapping anyone trying to illegally cross the Tex-Mex border.

Some said if that doesn't work to use land mines. A few even suggested machine guns as an option.

I think joke or not, Herman Cain opeNd a can of worms with his questionable rhetoric.

14 posted on 10/16/2011 9:31:03 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I’m loving this. Cain is going to be one of the toughest border hawks of our lifetime but he is going to keep the leftist media guessing.

Conservatives know what he means ;-)


15 posted on 10/16/2011 9:31:27 AM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: kristinn

Just another "Oops - I didn't really mean that" momentary state in Box Car Herman's Flip Flip circuitry.

 

FAIL.

16 posted on 10/16/2011 9:31:48 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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“It’s going to be 20 feet high. It’s going to have barbed wire on the top. It’s going to be electrified. And there’s going to be a sign on the other side saying, ‘It will kill you — Warning.’” At an earlier rally, on the campus of Tennessee Tech University in Cookeville, Tenn., he added that the sign would be written “in English and in Spanish.”

I dont know Herman. I thought you were serious - and I liked the idea myself.


17 posted on 10/16/2011 9:32:53 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: LomanBill

I guess we cannot expect anything rational or factual from a poster dumb enough to be supporting a candidate who calls 3/4’s of his voting base “heartless”.


18 posted on 10/16/2011 9:33:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Reagan Man
The bombing starts in 5 minutes

Remember that?

Maybe you might start thinking before posting "Reagan Man"

19 posted on 10/16/2011 9:34:28 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: justsaynomore

“Conservatives know what he means ;-)”

EXACTLY. He just looked up this issue, as we now know which side of the border his ‘heart’ lies on.


20 posted on 10/16/2011 9:34:45 AM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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