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San Francisco Waiters Push for 25% Tips
Newser ^ | 10/14/2011 | Kevin Spak

Posted on 10/14/2011 11:26:18 AM PDT by toma29

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To: freedomlover

maybe I should have put in ‘willingly’...........


41 posted on 10/14/2011 12:09:39 PM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: xp38
Cant believe I had to post this . . . you people are slipping !


42 posted on 10/14/2011 12:10:38 PM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: toma29

That’s on top of their “living”hourly wage


43 posted on 10/14/2011 12:14:40 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: toma29

Isn’t this like giving kids A’s before the school year even starts???


44 posted on 10/14/2011 12:18:19 PM PDT by Niteranger68 (If you don't vote for the best candidate, you're no different than a draft-dodger.)
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To: toma29

Great way to kill off restaurants and blame rich Republicans for not eating out more.


45 posted on 10/14/2011 12:19:09 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse.)
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To: toma29
make 25% the standard tip in San Francisco

And this is why I try to avoid dining out. I'm not going to stiff a waiter - otherwise it isn't fair to my waiter if the others are all getting 25% for providing the same service, and if I ever dare return, I can be sure I'll get lousy service and various noxious substances on my food because I'll be known as a bad tipper.

But tip expectations keep on climbing, no matter how good, bad or indifferent the service actually is. And now they want 25%?
46 posted on 10/14/2011 12:22:51 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Red Badger

Well I get irritated with it. If they do insist, I usually say, “so I’m not permitted to give you more?”

Then they look all embarrassed, and I say, “it’s a bad policy for many reasons, and why I won’t be back here again.”

If you want me to return, don’t force me into a box and make decisions for me about my money.


47 posted on 10/14/2011 12:23:35 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: Gabz

I used to work as a delivery driver. The only reason we made more than minimum wage is because of tips. And you only got tips by busting your butt off and being quick.

The problem there, was the overall business model. Our boss was really clever, but he was stuck at a bad divide. Two drivers was almost enough to cover all his business during the day shift, but 3 was too many and nobody made money.

So I really don’t have -any- sympathy for waitresses setting tips.


48 posted on 10/14/2011 12:26:57 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: Red Badger

I stand corrected, I did work for a catering outfit and we did share tips, because it was usually the “caterer” who got the big tip for all her help and she divided it up among us. However, she insisted if any of us were given tips by any of the guests we were keep them for ourselves, not that it happened very often.

The only place I guess I could understand shared tips would be at a buffet type place since you usually don’t get much more than bus service anyway.


49 posted on 10/14/2011 12:28:17 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Gabz

Flip side: If all waiters are guaranteed a 25% tip, what kind of service do you believe you are going to receive?

Today, a waiter knows that if he/she provides excellent service, they stand to get an exceptional tip.

This mandate takes performance out of the equation.


50 posted on 10/14/2011 12:29:53 PM PDT by Herodes
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To: Gabz

I usually determine the tip amount by how often they fill my tea glass...............


51 posted on 10/14/2011 12:31:24 PM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: toma29

What’s the difference between a Canadian and a canoe?

Canoes tip.


52 posted on 10/14/2011 12:31:24 PM PDT by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: toma29

basically, they want 25% or the next time you show up, you’ll get a poo-finger in your soup

oh, and always order a coors light while in san fran.


53 posted on 10/14/2011 12:35:38 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Red Badger
When I was a bit younger than you in your days as a waiter I worked in a family owned Italian restaurant that could have been the setting for a great sitcom.

There were two sisters who served the customers. There was “big haired” Bernice and her “cute blond” sister Linda.

Bernice’s way with people was to treat every table like they were VIP’s and smile and be grateful. She never complained that she got shorted by so-and-so.

Linda, always counted her tip and vowed revenge on the cheapskates.

Needless to say, at the end of every evening Bernice had a bag of gold and Linda not a lot.

I learned a lot from her attitude about dealing with people

54 posted on 10/14/2011 12:35:38 PM PDT by lowbuck (The Blue Card (US Passport) Don't leave home without it.)
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To: BenKenobi

I totally agree with you.


55 posted on 10/14/2011 12:42:09 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: toma29

Tips are a cultural thing whose time has passed. Why tip at all?


56 posted on 10/14/2011 12:42:20 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: lowbuck

Whenever my wife and I go out to a restaurant, she says, “I hope you tipped them well last time.”..........


57 posted on 10/14/2011 12:44:58 PM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: Herodes
This mandate takes performance out of the equation.

Exactly. If they're going to do that, the restaurants need to just raise their prices and pay the wait staff standard wages. I have no idea what it is in California or what it is now, but minimum wage for bar and wait staff has always only been about 1/2 or less of standard minimum wage. The idea behind that being they will make enough in tips.

58 posted on 10/14/2011 12:53:17 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Red Badger

That’s funny!!!!!


59 posted on 10/14/2011 12:55:22 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: faucetman
Tips are a cultural thing whose time has passed. Why tip at all?

Then another cultural thing has reached it's limit as well --- minimum wage for wait staff being half or less than half of standard minimum wage. The last time I had a minimum wage waitress wage minimum wage was $5.25. For wait staff employees it was $2.33.

60 posted on 10/14/2011 12:59:04 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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