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Alleged Iran plot "dangerous escalation": Clinton (Wag The Dog II)
Reuters ^ | 12 Oct 11 | None

Posted on 10/13/2011 3:41:19 AM PDT by SkyPilot

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To: Kenny Bunk
"Brave General Holder's Valiant Men Save Republic"

And the Pravda Press MSM dutifully swings there cameras over to the hastily-provided red herring, and don't have time to mention Fast and Furious, or its 200+ body count.


41 posted on 10/13/2011 6:00:14 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: rockinqsranch; Kenny Bunk

You seem to be under the delusion that the msm has been reporting every day on “gunwalker” and Solindra, etc.
The general public is in the dark, so how could this story be some kind of diversion for something the general public doesn’t even know about?


42 posted on 10/13/2011 6:03:22 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

“You seem to be under the delusion that the msm has been reporting every day on “gunwalker” and Solindra, etc.
The general public is in the dark,.......”

Under no delusion here nuconvert. Not at all. You apparently missed the article(s) about the “New Media” having become on par with the MSM in reaching the public.

It was reported here at FRee Republic in several articles within the past few months actually that the “New Media”, and the MSM share a 50/50% readership today. A marked improvement over past years. The “New Media” is maturing.

That is cause for concern for those to now having been reliant upon the dominance of the MSM.

It is because of that impressive power of the “New Media” today I believe that led to CBS to jump in on the “Gunwalker” exposure. Perhaps FOX also has something to do with it as they too have heavy exposure in the “New Media”.

No delusions, just read FRee Republic Morning, Noon, and Nights when I have the chance between chores. I know I don’t see everything, but I read a lot of what is posted here, and retain what I read to connect the dots, and make my opinions.


43 posted on 10/13/2011 6:18:58 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: rockinqsranch

FReepers and a minority of the population follow the news via “new media” & msm. The rest of the population doesn’t seek out news and gets their minuscule news bites from msm.

If it isn’t reported on the nightly news, it doesn’t exist. If they happen to hear about something via another source, it’s in passing & it isn’t pursued


44 posted on 10/13/2011 6:29:41 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Ever heard of the Tonkin Gulf incident that pulled us into Vietnam lock, stock and barrel?


45 posted on 10/13/2011 6:54:31 AM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: nuconvert

“FReepers and a minority of the population follow the news via “new media” & msm. The rest of the population doesn’t seek out news and gets their minuscule news bites from msm.

If it isn’t reported on the nightly news, it doesn’t exist. If they happen to hear about something via another source, it’s in passing & it isn’t pursued”

Interesting. Wondering why the personnel at my wifes office are abuzz with topics of “Gunwalker”, and “Iranian Assassin” stories, and updates often when she is the only person of the approximately 45 in her office who is a Freeper. Unfortunately the company she works for has FR blocked from access as a “Hate Site”, because of course the Left has told them FR is, so I send her updates during the day via email on the really important items of interest.

It’s because they read the “New Media” like Dad used to read the newspaper in the morning before going to work. Many take their breaks, and hit Drudge for news updates throughout the day as well.

I think you have a misconception of the interest Americans have of news.


46 posted on 10/13/2011 6:58:05 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; Josephat; Prince of Space; ...

In after the bell ping...


47 posted on 10/13/2011 7:34:14 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Again, the question is, “Why now?”

Because we have a weak, commie loving, muslime in the white hut.

48 posted on 10/13/2011 7:49:30 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: rockinqsranch

“I think you have a misconception of the interest Americans have of news.”

I wish I did. The majority of peole I run into, either have no idea what’s going on day to day, or get their news from the nightly news, or Jon Stewart.


49 posted on 10/13/2011 7:56:47 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Kenny Bunk; Travis McGee; All

Somebody sent me this. Interesting...

http://bigpeace.com/kclizbe/2011/10/12/iran-mexico-furious-assassins-manufactured-crisis-world-war-iii/

PC-Progressives are liars by profession. They cannot reveal their true beliefs. If they did, they would be run out of the country on a rail. So they lie, obfuscate, conceal. Thus, PC-Progressives take very well to official covert actions.

Covert action requires lying. The lying is officially sanctioned. The Obama administration, the most radical anti-American administration in history is immersed now in official lying—covert actions in Yemen, Pakistan, Egypt, Libya, Mexico. What will the end game be? God help us.

Eric Holder, no stranger to counter-constitutional measures is being slowly encircled by constitutional investigations. The subpoena he dreaded arrived in his office this week.

Anticipating the Fast and Furious subpoena, walls closing in around him, Holder-Obama sprung a surprise–Iran plans an attack on American soil!

A manufactured crisis leading to war is the only way out for these malefactors. Like their role model, FDR, they believe that the only way for their Keynesian economics to heal the country is to destroy it. The only atonement for America’s imagined past sins is to wash them away in blood—oceans of blood. As their castles in the air dissolve, both domestically and internationally, the only possible PC-Progressive response is to start a war—the bigger, the better.


50 posted on 10/13/2011 8:15:11 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: nuconvert

Back in the sixties it was discovered by the MSM that there was a hunger in America for news. ABC started “Eyewitness News”, and other major MSM television followed, or maybe ABC followed some other, but that’s the way I remember it locally.

Then that same desire for news later brought about talk radio as people wanted to know, were genuinely interested in what other people thought of the news, plus they learned of the news from talk radio along with the discussions of the news.

Few if any were genuinely interested in the Leftist perspective of the news so most all of the successful “Talk Radio” was Conservative, or shall we say thereabouts, but the discussions were, and are basically of the truthful perspectives of the day.

Modern MSM is dying, because of their support for the Leftist perspective most if any don’t want to waste their time listening to, watching, reading, whatever the MSM.

My point: “New Media” is at 50/50% with the old MSM in readership which means people are seeking truth, because they want the truth. They don’t want the Leftist perspective as it isn’t truth. It’s the visions of impaired minds, and defense of those visions however they are concocted that turn people to source the truth, and the truth today is more readily found somewhere on the “New Media”.

Perhaps you’re “running into” specific types of person(s) that are just out of the loop altogether. I don’t know, but I’m an old guy, and even the old guys I meet with at the doughnut shop, and some don’t have ‘puters to source the truth are talking the truth about all of the issues. Primarily as I think about it as my friends they would, as I run with only people I like, and I like them because they think, and react to todays news the way I do. We are all Conservative retired military, or retired having served prior, but got out of the military birds of a feather so-to-speak. IOW we are Americans who like to know what is going on, and we all find the truth one way or another, and mostly through the Internet, or from friends that have internet.

Soon I predict the “New Media” will outpace the Old MSM if it hasn’t already as more and more people get disgusted, and seek truth knowing from friends where the truth can be found.

You and we obviously live in quite different environments within these United States of America.

Regardless it’s been a nice discussion. Appreciate your responses. Food for thought. Have a good day.


51 posted on 10/13/2011 10:06:26 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: MestaMachine

Good post. I believe right on the mark.


52 posted on 10/13/2011 10:09:24 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: nuconvert
The general public is in the dark, so how could this story be some kind of diversion for something the general public doesn’t even know about?

By golly, that's an excellent point that you make, as usual. However, as a recovering communications professional, I might reply (if you were a paying client) that this story is lurking just under the surface.

Just the time to justify the retainer with a pre-emptive strike. What I really wonder is who is going to be the first Republican primary hustler to have the nerve to mention it?

From the Department of Sad and Eternal Factoids:The Republicans are always behind the PR curve. "The party of business," knows less about effective PR and Advertising than the most low-down used car dealer in your town. They pay hundreds of millions to the likes of idiot-savant Karl R, to keep them that way.

53 posted on 10/13/2011 10:16:12 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Team Obama will not shrink from violence to remain in power. Be ready.)
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To: rockinqsranch; nuconvert

Issa has been giving phone interviews or whatever they might be called to “bloggers” - Sipsey Street, for one - because they ARE the Real Media.


54 posted on 10/13/2011 11:36:29 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: MestaMachine

Thanks for the ping.


55 posted on 10/13/2011 2:12:00 PM PDT by GOPJ (Occupy Wall Street Zombies Lastest Chant: “You Can Have Sex With Animals”)
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To: SkyPilot; Kenny Bunk; Travis McGee; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK; Ernest_at_the_Beach; tubebender; LonePalm

There is an excellent probability that this is: Wag the Dog III, a sequel to the sequel.

Wag the Dog I was produced by the Clinton News Nets to distract the nation from the reality of Clinton being up to his ‘erhm’ in Lewinsky and his pending impeachment.

Wag the Dog II was the recent sudden death/burial at sea of Obsama, er Osama as Obama’s ratings began their recent severe drop.

So, Cue, “Wag the Dog III” produced/directed by George SoreA$$/ Obama/Clinton/Holder/MSM Mediots to distract us from Obozo’s failures across the board, Holder’s illegal gun running to the Mexican Criminal Drug Cartels, what is happening in Egypt, Libya and Syria and our crashing economy.


56 posted on 10/13/2011 2:42:22 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: MestaMachine

“A manufactured crisis leading to war is the only way out for these malefactors”

There isn’t going to be war over this.


57 posted on 10/13/2011 3:22:07 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

No, I don’t think so. The author of the article I posted doesn’t think so either. But the fact is, the people who thought up this brilliant fraud didn’t give a damn. And THAT is frightening.
Watching senators and congress people from BOTH parties pounding the war drums is extremely disheartening.


58 posted on 10/13/2011 3:48:26 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: nuconvert

On this thread at least, I think if someone said the earth was round, you would have an objection and then would have to get in the last word.


59 posted on 10/13/2011 5:28:02 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Ha


60 posted on 10/13/2011 5:38:20 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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