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Gov. Jerry Brown has signed California Dream Act, legislator says
LA Times ^ | 10-08-2011 | LA Times

Posted on 10/08/2011 12:42:30 PM PDT by montag813

The lawmaker who authored the California Dream Act said Saturday that Gov. Jerry Brown has signed the bill allowing Illegal immigrants attending California universities to receive state financial aid.

Brown's office declined comment, and an announcement on the legislation has not yet been made.

But Assemblyman Gil Cedillo (D-Los Angeles) said he was notified Saturday morning by the governor's aides that Brown has approved the measure, which makes illegal immigrants who are accepted into state universities eligible, starting in 2013, for Cal-Grant assistance.

The governor’s action also allows those without citizenship papers to tap into institutional grants while attending the University of California and California State University systems, and to get fee waivers in the California community college system. 

Cedillo praised Brown as an "incredible leader with the vision and courage'' for signing the bill despite its great controversy.

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From Stand With Arizona:

Breaking: Gil Cedilo, the lawmaker who authored the "California Dream Act" - the $40 million tuition grant and financial aid bill for illegal aliens - minutes ago said that Gov. Jerry Brown has signed it. Now CA will be able to steal tens of millions from citizens to give to illegals. Brown signed the controversial bill in secret on a weekend during football games, with a midnight deadline looming, to try and hide this disgrace from taxpayers. California is truly lost.

1 posted on 10/08/2011 12:42:34 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813
And Moonbeam confirms it:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/california-politics/2011/10/gov-jerry-brown-announces-he-has-signed-bill-allowing-illegal-immigrants-access-to-college-aid.html

2 posted on 10/08/2011 12:45:04 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

Wow. So now Brown is as conservative as Perry on the issue.


3 posted on 10/08/2011 12:45:33 PM PDT by Grunthor (Heartless Bigot for Cain.)
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To: montag813

I am in the process of leaving the People’s Republic of Californistan and moving to Louisiana, USA


4 posted on 10/08/2011 12:45:41 PM PDT by Beckett08 ("My Jihad means 'My Struggle' So does "Mein Kampf.")
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To: montag813
Let's see......what other govenor signed a Dream Act for his state?

Oh, that's right, Perry! Imagine that! A Republican govenor running for the Republican ticket doing the exact same thing as a Democrat govenor.

Brilliant, simply brilliant....*sigh*

5 posted on 10/08/2011 12:46:21 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (Cain 2012........)
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To: montag813

And why wouldn’t he sign this into law?

California is just overflowing with cash.

I’m sorry but if I lived there I would be leaving on the first train east bound.


6 posted on 10/08/2011 12:46:30 PM PDT by CSI007
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To: CAluvdubya

Stop criticizing Rick Perry you heartless thug. ;)


7 posted on 10/08/2011 12:47:55 PM PDT by CSI007
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To: montag813
...allowing Illegal immigrants attending California universities to receive state financial aid.

Muchas gracias gringo taxpayers.

8 posted on 10/08/2011 12:48:15 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you always tell the truth, you won't have to remember what you said.)
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To: CSI007

You wouldn’t leave so fast if you couldn’t sell your house...just sayin’


9 posted on 10/08/2011 12:48:19 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (Cain 2012........)
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To: Grunthor

This is nothing like what was passed in Texas.


10 posted on 10/08/2011 12:49:55 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beckett08

californistan

Get lost TROLL, You’re not even AMerican unless you like spelling color as colour and why will you not tell us why you came back on here under a different name and why were you with the anti war group ANSWER


11 posted on 10/08/2011 12:50:21 PM PDT by manc (Beckett08 = anti war ANSWER troll who re-registered.Ask the troll why they won't condemn protesters)
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To: montag813

Good thing California is rolling in the dough. Otherwise, we’d soon be belly up. Hmmmm.... maybe Obama will bail us out. He’s got trillions of available cash just waiting to be printed.


12 posted on 10/08/2011 12:50:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: montag813

bump


13 posted on 10/08/2011 12:51:23 PM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: montag813
But Assemblyman Gil Cedillo (D-Los Angeles) said he was notified Saturday morning by the governor's aides that Brown has approved the measure, which makes illegal immigrants who are accepted into state universities eligible, starting in 2013, for Cal-Grant assistance.

Do I understand this correctly? California is going to subsidize the higher education for illegal aliens who after graduation either work illegally in America as day laborers, or go back to their home country to gain professional employment?

Since California has no power to grant citizenship to these illegal aliens these PhD's can never be legally hired in any of "our" 57 states - including KALIFORNIA.
14 posted on 10/08/2011 12:51:40 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: CAluvdubya

This is probably true.

But if a buyer came along I would be out before they make it mandatory that you STAY in California.


15 posted on 10/08/2011 12:52:05 PM PDT by CSI007
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To: Jim Robinson
He’s got trillions of available cash just waiting to be printed.

0bama has the paper, all he needs is the promise from our grandchildren that they will guarantee that it will be worth something...

16 posted on 10/08/2011 12:54:31 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: montag813

Treason.


17 posted on 10/08/2011 12:58:32 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: EGPWS

And the grandchildren, even the unborn (should they be born) are already up to their eyeballs in debt.


18 posted on 10/08/2011 1:00:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Beckett08

>>I am in the process of leaving the People’s Republic of Californistan and moving to Louisiana, USA<<

Me, too. My target: Irving, TX on Oct 21.

As you can imagine my household is a big mess with boxes all over the place.

So leave the liberals to clean up after their own mess. There are more people in the cart than pulling it. This just piles more people into the cart and pulls more off the handle.


19 posted on 10/08/2011 1:04:04 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012 -- the man we need at the time we need him)
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To: montag813

I have a mental picture of Californians swirling down the toilet bowl, while the people they elected are reaching up one more time trying to reach the flush handle.


20 posted on 10/08/2011 1:06:59 PM PDT by umgud
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To: freedumb2003

imagine if all conservatives moved out of blue states.

Blue states would lose their electoral count, lose tax money etc

Red and border states would gain money, electoral count and if we made CO,VA,NM,FL all red then the left coudl not win an election


21 posted on 10/08/2011 1:07:12 PM PDT by manc (Do not fall for the trolls who promote the protests on here, Marriage 1man=1 woman=marriage)
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To: CSI007

Trust me, nothing but my excellent job is keeping me here in Commiefornia... for now. For the record, I couldn’t afford to go to college and worked my way through promotions and building up my skills to be where I am professionally (beyond anything I’d ever dreamt of). California is such an amazingly beautiful & resource-rich place, but it’s being snuffed out by suicidal voters. Jerry f*’n Brown basically 2nd-flushing the swirl. OMG.


22 posted on 10/08/2011 1:07:21 PM PDT by MonicaG (God bless our military! Praying and thanking God for you every day. Thank you!)
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To: CSI007
heh, heh, heh

I love the tagline I saw....."heartless4Cain"

23 posted on 10/08/2011 1:07:36 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (Cain 2012........)
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To: CAluvdubya
Texas didn't pass a dream act like this. CA is going to be GIVING grants to illegals.

That is a bunch of difference from the Texas bill ( which I don't agree with either) that will allow anyone that attended 3 or more years of HS, and graduated from a Texas HS, to PAY the in-state rate for tuition.

24 posted on 10/08/2011 1:10:13 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: montag813

Bite me, Brown.


25 posted on 10/08/2011 1:10:41 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: montag813
...and in other news:

California groups work on tax proposals for 2012 ballot
26 posted on 10/08/2011 1:16:12 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Isn’t this against fed law?

If so then couldn’t this be took to the courts?


27 posted on 10/08/2011 1:18:47 PM PDT by manc (Do not fall for the trolls who promote the protests on here, Marriage 1man=1 woman=marriage)
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To: Beagle8U

So this doesn’t give illegal aliens in state tuition?


28 posted on 10/08/2011 1:20:14 PM PDT by Grunthor (Heartless Bigot for Cain.)
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To: montag813

“Have proof that every Muslim in every mosque in America is not “peaceably” assembling?”

Yea, it’s called the Koran, it’s in every mosque. You should read it.

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html


29 posted on 10/08/2011 1:20:44 PM PDT by BobL (I want a Conservative for 2012, not Perry)
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To: Beckett08

Good idea.


30 posted on 10/08/2011 1:25:32 PM PDT by Grunthor (Heartless Bigot for Cain.)
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To: Beagle8U
That is a bunch of difference from the Texas bill ( which I don't agree with either) that will allow anyone that attended 3 or more years of HS, and graduated from a Texas HS, to PAY the in-state rate for tuition.

They don't have to attend HS for 3 yrs. They can cross the border today and get in state tuition. That's not what the legislation says but that is the reality. They aren't supposed to cross the border illegally but they do it.

31 posted on 10/08/2011 1:30:49 PM PDT by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: montag813

Ultimately, this will result in a cut off of all aid to the colleges, I predict.


32 posted on 10/08/2011 1:36:00 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: CAluvdubya

Chalk up another for Carl Rove! He got Perry to switch parties!


33 posted on 10/08/2011 1:40:27 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Drango

I’m glad. Finally we have a liberal tax you don’t like. I always figured you loved illegal aliens. Imagine how much 10 million illegals pay in tobacco taxes.


34 posted on 10/08/2011 1:43:47 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: Grunthor
“So this doesn’t give illegal aliens in state tuition?”

You mean the CA bill? Yes it does, along with big buckets of cash to cover their tuition. That last part is a big difference.

35 posted on 10/08/2011 1:46:02 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: montag813
"The lawmaker who authored the California Dream Act said Saturday that Gov. Jerry Brown has signed the bill allowing Illegal immigrants attending California universities to receive state financial aid."

Translation:

The lawmaker who authored the California Dream Act said Saturday that Gov. Jerry Brown has signed the bill allowing Illegal immigrants attending California universities to receive legal citizen's hard earned tax-payed money.

This is AKA thievery.

Time to recall Brown!

36 posted on 10/08/2011 1:47:12 PM PDT by 444Flyer
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To: Beagle8U

These folks know that, but it doesn’t serve their cause... In the end, they’ll help destroy Perry and wind up with Romney

Circular firing squad. Pathetic


37 posted on 10/08/2011 1:47:24 PM PDT by NYC-Conserv (Back on FR after 2 Year Hiatus (though lurking throughout))
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To: CAluvdubya

Just because they are all called “Dream Act” they are nothing alike in substance.

Texas Dream Act only allowed for in-state tuition for children of illegals, under conditions that they were in the state for 3 yrs, graduated high school and were in process of legalizing their situation.

CA was already providing this, and the current “CA Dream Act” gives them financial aid, with no conditions. See the article in the WSJ.

California Governor Signs Dream Act

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203476804576619292756560716.html

“Under current law, undocumented students pay resident tuition rates if they have graduated from a California high school and affirmed that they are in the process of applying to legalize their immigration status. Starting January 1, 2013, those students will be eligible to apply for state-funded Cal Grants and other public aid.

The legislation builds on a previous bill signed into law in July, which makes financial aid from private sources available to the same pool of students. The two laws are collectively known as the California Dream Act.”

And of course the Federal “Dream Act” gives amnesty to any illegal who attends any school for a couple of years.

BIG difference between them.


38 posted on 10/08/2011 1:48:30 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Ajnin
“They can cross the border today and get in state tuition. That's not what the legislation says but that is the reality. They aren't supposed to cross the border illegally but they do it.”

Not in Texas, but they likely can in your state.

39 posted on 10/08/2011 1:49:48 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: HenpeckedCon
I’m glad.

I'm not surprised.

40 posted on 10/08/2011 1:49:58 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: montag813

Freepers have no idea how bad this law is.

This means every single illegal that qualifies for college will get free tuition, because financial aid is based on income, and technically, illegals don’t file tax returns and don’t have real jobs.

And this is happening while tuition fees are going exponentially up for Californians who are actual citizens.


41 posted on 10/08/2011 1:52:06 PM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: All; Grunthor
CA already in-state tuition for illegals long before this year. This is a large expansion beyond that.

Part one of Cedillo's Dream Act expansion bill, signed earlier this year, made it possible for illegals to use private scholarships and grants.

This second part allows them to compete for tax payer-funded grants and other public dollars.

42 posted on 10/08/2011 1:53:53 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama wins in 2012.)
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To: Drango

I’m not unsympathetic to you. I pray for you that they don’t start taxing bathhouses.


43 posted on 10/08/2011 2:02:11 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: CAluvdubya
CA already had TX-type in-state tuition. Cedillo's bill, this is the second half actually, goes far beyond that. The first half allowed illegals to accept private grants and scholarships. This is the second half, giving them access to public grants and fundings.

I contacted Brown's office weeks ago recommending a veto. I thought he had more sense than to go here.

It is a violation of federal law but the courts have said the only ones who have standing to enforce it are the feds, no student has standing under the statute at written.

No Democrat is going to sue the states over it and no Republican will risk alienating the growing Hispanic voting block.

44 posted on 10/08/2011 2:03:07 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama wins in 2012.)
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To: montag813

Proof that we dont’ need to increase taxes, fee’s etc, etc, to add “revenues”.

California is flush with cash.

So much so that we can take on additional programs with out concern about funding or deficits.


45 posted on 10/08/2011 2:07:21 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Democrats are violent. Prisons are overflowing with democrats convicted of violent crimes.)
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To: manc

In state tuition for illegals appears to be against federal law but the courts (including SCOTUS earlier this year) have found only the feds have standing to sue. That’s not going to happen. Democrats are happy with the policy and Republicans are afraid of alienating Hispanics as happened in CA during the 90s, ceding CA to Dems permanently.


46 posted on 10/08/2011 2:08:07 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama wins in 2012.)
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To: montag813

It may not be the best thing CA could do, but at least they can afford it, so it’s not THAT crazy.


47 posted on 10/08/2011 2:11:02 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: montag813

These traitors ought to get out of my country!


48 posted on 10/08/2011 2:11:08 PM PDT by tutstar
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To: newzjunkey

I disagree. This could lose Obama California.


49 posted on 10/08/2011 2:12:36 PM PDT by 4Liberty (88% of Americans are NON-UNION. We value honest, peaceful Free trade-NOT protectionist CARTELS)
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To: montag813

My son plays basketball at a junior college out there, and I have to pay out of state tuition. I wonder if he can fake his citizenship?


50 posted on 10/08/2011 2:17:59 PM PDT by neodad
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