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Homeland Security moves forward with 'pre-crime' detection (Big Government™ is watching you)
CNET ^ | 2011-10-07 | Declan McCullagh

Posted on 10/07/2011 8:18:33 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

An internal U.S. Department of Homeland Security document indicates that a controversial program designed to predict whether a person will commit a crime is already being tested on some members of the public voluntarily, CNET has learned.

If this sounds a bit like the Tom Cruise movie called "Minority Report," or the CBS drama "Person of Interest," it is. But where "Minority Report" author Philip K. Dick enlisted psychics to predict crimes, DHS is betting on algorithms: it's building a "prototype screening facility" that it hopes will use factors such as ethnicity, gender, breathing, and heart rate to "detect cues indicative of mal-intent."

The latest developments, which reveal efforts to "collect, process, or retain information on" members of "the public," came to light through an internal DHS document obtained under open-government laws by the Electronic Privacy Information Center. DHS calls its "pre-crime" system Future Attribute Screening Technology, or FAST.

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To: rabscuttle385

And yet the feds assured us that all that Able Danger business was nonsense.


41 posted on 10/07/2011 10:41:41 PM PDT by denydenydeny (The moment you step into a world of facts, you step into a world of limits. --Chesterton)
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To: rabscuttle385

wait, I thought profiling in anyway was...BAD!

At least according to the Obammie Admin.


42 posted on 10/07/2011 10:51:27 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Drill Thrawl

You will assimilate...resistance is futile.


43 posted on 10/07/2011 11:02:12 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: rabscuttle385

That’s Profiling... Thought the government would not tolerate it?

If we had a real opposition party, then the Republican party would expose this. Their silence speaks volumes of how they feel about this.


44 posted on 10/07/2011 11:04:22 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: rabscuttle385

a preliminary survey by DHS concluded that owners of firearms, and those who posess bibles are far more dangerous than other members of society


45 posted on 10/07/2011 11:13:17 PM PDT by KTM rider ( with citizenship you get indentured servitude)
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To: rabscuttle385

Don’t tell me; To stop those Right wing militias that Bozo Napolitano says are the biggest threat to the US or to translate; Biggest obstacle to turning the US Commie.


46 posted on 10/07/2011 11:15:17 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Mark Halperin - Learned the hard way what happens when you speak the truth on PMSNBC.)
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To: rabscuttle385; All

Make no mistake & think that the Republicans would refuse to use this system . They would have a hard on just like the Democrats .


47 posted on 10/08/2011 12:46:50 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: rabscuttle385

http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/allposters/83/1807592183p.jpg


48 posted on 10/08/2011 1:05:52 AM PDT by tanuki (O-voters: wanted Uberman, got Underdog....)
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To: rabscuttle385

His Satanic Majesty, 0bama of Mordor, a Son of Perdition!


49 posted on 10/08/2011 1:21:27 AM PDT by SmithW6079
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To: Semper911

If they go by breathing and heart rates, any person that does hard labor will be in trouble.
My Resperation and heart rates goes up every time I think about Bacon Cheeseburgers or Shania Twain.


50 posted on 10/08/2011 1:37:29 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: ThunderSleeps
This article is a bit misleading.

FAST is a technology demonstrator for a screening system for large public events or secure areas. The Future portion of FAST stands for the inclusion of evolving technologies, not predicting future crimes. DHS paid for the development of a mobile trailer that can be easily modified to include different types of screening equipment. For people concerned about the health and privacy concerns of backscatter X-ray machines this should be a good thing.

This technology could still only be used for events that require submitting one self for security screening. Putting it on the street and forcing the public to walk through it would still be a Fourth Amendment violation.

51 posted on 10/08/2011 2:21:47 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Yorlik803

“... my respiration and heart rate goes up every time I think about Bacon Cheeseburgers or Shania Twain”.

What happens to you if you think about Shania Twain eating a bacon cheeseburger?! LOL!!


53 posted on 10/08/2011 3:04:25 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: rabscuttle385

@AttackWatch.


54 posted on 10/08/2011 3:12:22 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Part of the criminal profile is a “profile” on FR.


55 posted on 10/08/2011 3:41:10 AM PDT by Shady (The undeniable truth of the Obama Administration...The numbers do not lie.)
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To: Shady

I just bet the government has psychologists working on this. Shouldn’t they be losing their licenses because of the ethics questions? It is similar to the doctors in the concentration camps doing human “experimentation”.


56 posted on 10/08/2011 4:21:39 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Ramius
I’ve never cared much for the name, though. Maybe we can fix that.

How about "Abteilung der Heimatssicherheit"?

And the TSA becomes "Transport-Sicherheitsverwaltung"

NOW we're goose-steppin'!!!
57 posted on 10/08/2011 4:24:22 AM PDT by mkjessup (If you're not part of the solution to getting rid of 0bama, you're part of the problem.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Heck...anybody that has donated to Palin is automatically a subversive....that money belongs to the Borg...


58 posted on 10/08/2011 4:24:41 AM PDT by mo
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To: C210N

Odd how the Liberals decried “profiling” to catch the bad guy AFTER a crime has been committed, but don’t seem to have a problem with this explicit profiling BEFORE the crime is committed.


59 posted on 10/08/2011 4:32:38 AM PDT by Teacher317 (really?)
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To: rabscuttle385
It actually sounds like the same principals being used by the Israelis in their airport security screening. There, they use trained screeners that briefly interview each passenger and are trained to pick up on cues from their answers and body language that indicate they're likely up to no good.

This sounds like they're trying to develop technology to duplicate that and be idiot proof enough to be used by the politically-correct affirmative action hire union drone that's become the standard for government employees.

60 posted on 10/08/2011 4:45:35 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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