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Cain Wins Near-Majority in Presidential Straw Poll of National Federation of Republican Women
NFRW ^ | October 2, 2011 | NFRW

Posted on 10/03/2011 5:28:48 AM PDT by Isara

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I’m a Palin supporter; my son was a Johnson supporter. We argued about it and ended up deciding we could both support Cain if it came to that. He was the only one we both felt comfortable with. That was three months ago.

I’m still a Palin supporter, and until the Florida straw poll, didn’t give Cain much of a chance. Today, I think he’s going to easily win the nomination. Palin is unlikely to announce, Christie has got to be wondering how he’ll be perceived if he steps on Cain’s sudden ascendance. Bachmann is now toast, leaving Perry and Romney. Romney was never going to get more than 25% of the primary vote hardly anywhere, and Perry is in trouble.

It’s down to Perry and Cain, and Cain is going to win it easily now. It will be hilarious watching the MSM come to grips with this, and they will resist reporting it as long as possible, but it’s coming. Cain is the one candidate most of us can support, and his reputation for righting faltering business operations will be seen as a great asset in this campaign.

I almost hope Palin doesn’t announce now, nor Christie, even though both would be good additions to the list of candidates; all they do is increase the chances that Romney will somehow emerge out of the confusion, a la McCain.

Questions: Would Palin be a good VP choice for Cain? If not, who would? I’d like to hear some opinions on that, as I haven’t considered it at all yet.


101 posted on 10/03/2011 8:21:52 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: Isara
Michele Bachmann – 1.4% Ron Paul – 0.6% Gary Johnson – 0.4% Jon Huntsman – 0.2%

A little math yields - out of the 505 delegates -

One vote for Huntsman, 2 for Johnson, 3 for Paul, and 7 for Bachmann. Unfortunately for them, that's statistically "zero", IMHO. Too bad, I like Bachmann, thought that she might catch some of the buzz that's going around.

And, as some posters noted, Palin was not on the poll. Call me crazy, but it might have something to do with her not being in the race yet.

102 posted on 10/03/2011 8:26:51 AM PDT by wbill
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To: workerbee
I have been going through the posting histories of the people attacking Mr. Cain for the last couple of days. Very few have been Sarah Palin fans, most of us Sarah Palin fans have been supporting Mr. Cain enthusiastically. Sarah Palin herself has indicated on several occasions now that she likes Mr. Cain very much. Anyone who watched her "flavor of the week" comment could tell you that she meant no disrespect. She went on to clarify her remarks the next day.

There are a few Ron Paul supporters who are mostly concerned about Mr. Cains time with the Federal Reserve. By and large however the attacks have mostly been coming from persons with posting histories which indicate that they have been enthusiastic Gov. Perry supporters.

I don't have a problem with people being critical and making valid points. That is part of the vetting process here that helps make the site so valuable. Repeated disingenuous inflammatory remarks based on half truths are troublesome, especially when at least a couple of the threads have had the appearance of some type of organized effort to unjustly defame Mr. Cain. To me it doesn't indicate hatred as much as it indicates desperation by those who have put a lot of money into the Perry campaign only to see their man floundering and losing his support to Herman Cain.

103 posted on 10/03/2011 8:28:37 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: TheWriterTX
It's a smart move, actually.

It presents Black America with a choice. Let's see what they do with it. The results coud suprise.

104 posted on 10/03/2011 8:29:03 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: fireman15
Repeated disingenuous inflammatory remarks based on half truths are troublesome,...

Going on here? On Freerepublic?

Shocked...yes, shocked.

Say it isn't so!

105 posted on 10/03/2011 8:34:22 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Cain also saw fit to dole out $30 million in bonuses, not including stock options, to the top five execs at Aquila in 2002

I've seen this happen a number of times with companies that have been circling the bowl. Execs perceived as "Key Resources" are handed exorbitant bonuses in an attempt to keep them on and hold things together long enough while the company is either salvaged or sold.

Doesn't necessarily make it right, and in particular, it looks awful for Joe VP to get 5 mill in bonuses while 500 people are getting the axe. However, good, bad, or indifferent, it's the way business is done.

106 posted on 10/03/2011 8:35:42 AM PDT by wbill
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To: ScottinVA
It seems to me that Palin and Cain agree on the issues and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Sarah makes an October announcement that she is endorsing “Herm”.
107 posted on 10/03/2011 8:40:44 AM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: Isara

Herman Cain won the Illinois Tea Party poll this weekend:

10. Johnson 0%

10. Hunstman 0%

8. Obama 0.2%

7. Santorum 1.4%

6. Paul 1.8%

5. Romney 2.6%

4. Perry 3%

3. Gingrich 3.8%

2. Bachmann 9.4%

1. Cain 77.5%


108 posted on 10/03/2011 8:44:40 AM PDT by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' grandma - multi issue voter)
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To: ScottinVA
You're right. It's coming. Just as you have predicted.

They will stop at NOTHING!

NOTHING is too low for these people.

109 posted on 10/03/2011 8:47:43 AM PDT by Savage Beast (America's best hope is the Left's worst nightmare: Herman Cain!)
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To: wbill
If you make an effort to research Mr. Cain's involvement with Aquila you will find that most of what is out there is based on the Mother Jones article from last May. The actual events took place approximately ten years ago. Mr. Cain was brought in to assist a failing business which got itself caught up in the energy trading market. The lawsuits went nowhere and no one found that Mr. Cain acted improperly or unethically. It is a non-story that appears to be going no where. I am waiting with interest to see what the Perry supporters can dredge up next to try and derail the “Cain Train”.
110 posted on 10/03/2011 8:49:56 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: justsaynomore
This is all encouraging.

When MY psychotic Leftist (but I repeat myself) family and friends start supporting Cain, I'll know that American decadence has reached its lowest point and that America is once again ascendant.

111 posted on 10/03/2011 8:53:14 AM PDT by Savage Beast (America's best hope is the Left's worst nightmare: Herman Cain!)
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To: Norseman

It’s down to Perry and Cain, and Cain is going to win it easily now”

Are you serious?

Gee, I hope you are right...but I just don’t see it. I see it is sort of between Romney and .....question mark. If no warm body shows up to be that “?”, then Romney is going to win without a real challenge.

I’d sure love it if you were right! I’d like to see a friendly arm-wrestling match b/w Perry and Cain!!!!


112 posted on 10/03/2011 8:55:55 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

How can it be friendly unless Cain apologizes for his unwarranted and unfair attack on Perry on the Sunday shows?

But the arm wrestling thing might be fun. Perry would probably win that one as that was once a popular sport down at the honky tonks in Texas.


113 posted on 10/03/2011 8:58:22 AM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan---or Palin/Perry or Palin/Rubio)
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To: fireman15

Maybe we could dredge up the fact that it’s been way over ten years since the Rock was discovered on the ranch where the Perry family OCCASIONALLY went to hunt.

But that didn’t stop Cain from an unfair, racist attack.

I don’t want another racist president no matter how conservative he seems to be.


114 posted on 10/03/2011 9:01:38 AM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan---or Palin/Perry or Palin/Rubio)
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To: ConservativeDude

I see a great danger in the ‘vote cute’ sentiment for Cain.

A lot of middle-of-the roaders (aka road kill) thought it would be cute to vote for Obama.


115 posted on 10/03/2011 9:03:14 AM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan---or Palin/Perry or Palin/Rubio)
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To: fireman15
LOL....."Mother Jones" article. I'd not heard about that. Though, I suppose, that Mother Jones is just as fact-based and well-researched as MSNBC or any other MSM outlet, nowadays.

And you're right, if this is the best smear that they can come up with against Cain, then the rest of the field is in trouble.

My $0.02, for what it's worth..... I like Cain, I think that he's electable. I think the same of Perry, as well. Palin is likeable but completely unelectable (thanks to the aforementioned MSM). Romney is electable, but I don't trust the guy. Rest of the pack are 2nd raters.

116 posted on 10/03/2011 9:12:58 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Beagle8U

Ok then. I withdraw my “cheap shot” comment.


117 posted on 10/03/2011 9:34:19 AM PDT by Grunthor (Cain.)
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To: ConservativeDude

>>It’s down to Perry and Cain, and Cain is going to win it easily now”

Are you serious?<<

Yes, I’m serious. I think it’s quite possible that what we are witnessing is the coalescing of the Republican Party around a candidate that will take out Romney. Notice that we keep focusing on one candidate at a time, all the way back to Daniels, Ryan, Christie (and now Christie again), Pawlenty, Palin then Bachmann, then Perry...but none of them have gotten the traction needed to hold the top spot (yet many of them have out-polled Romney at one point or another)

As Perry fades, and he is fading right now anyway, Cain is coming on strong in the grass roots. What the Tea Party/grass roots Republican voters want to avoid is another McCain, i.e., Romney, and so I believe an effort is being made to pick the alternative to Romney before the primaries get too far underway, so that we don’t have 2 or 3 candidates splitting the anti-Romney vote (which is huge) and allowing Romney to do what McCain did (get nominated by middle of the roaders and meddling Democrats.) I also think this is why Palin hasn’t announced. I think she would if everyone else keeps fading, but Cain’s recent emergence could keep her on the sidelines, as well as Christie.

Cain can obviously stick his foot in his mouth seven ways from Sunday yet, and probably will, but his relative inexperience politically could help him there, as expectations are low in that regard. Meanwhile, this country needs someone experienced in leading a turnaround (Would anyone here argue with that?) and that’s Herman Cain’s resume in a nutshell...turnaround expert.


118 posted on 10/03/2011 10:15:34 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: altura

>>But that didn’t stop Cain from an unfair, racist attack.

I don’t want another racist president no matter how conservative he seems to be.<<

Cain called Perry “insensitive” and assumed the article contained accurate facts. What if the facts were, indeed, accurate? If he’d have backed up Perry, he would have been branded an Uncle Tom by the MSM thereafter.

If the facts in the article were inaccurate, the author of the article was the source of the unfair attack, not Cain.

And it is one hell of a stretch to put all this together and decide you’ll rule Cain out because he’s a “racist.” Let the Democrats debase the language, not us. After all, they’ve been branding the Tea Party as “racist” since its inception. You’re giving the word about the same weight as they do, as far as I’m concerned...

Now, if you’re not going to support Cain because you prefer Perry’s policies, chance of being elected, principles, etc., that’s another matter, but don’t hide behind a phony accusation of racism. We’re better than that.


119 posted on 10/03/2011 10:29:27 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: Norseman

That was a nice response. Thanks.

However, there are two possibilities, both bad.

Either Cain was not familiar with the article but decided to take a MSM newspaper (the Washington Post, at that) seriously, or

He was familiar with the article and could see that it was a phony dredged up attempt to make it seem as if Perry was racist.

Either way, he should not have jumped in there like he did. All he had to do was say he didn’t know enough to comment.

His jumping in so quickly to disavow Perry on this non-issue showed me a little too much about his mindset.

A lot of people accuse me of never liking Cain, lying about that. I did like Cain. I’ve said repeatedly he was not the top of my list but I would have supported him.

I’m still hoping for Palin. I also still like Perry enough to vote for him, tho a little disappointed in his handling of some hot button issues.

If he is so afraid of being called an Uncle Tom, he might as well drop out now. That is exactly what he is being and will be called by liberals.

Cain assuming that a hit piece by the W. Post is accurate was stupid. He should know better. His jumping in to attack Perry based on this is a deal breaker for me.

Sorry if that offends you, but it’s the way I feel.


120 posted on 10/03/2011 10:47:16 AM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan---or Palin/Perry or Palin/Rubio)
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