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1 posted on 10/01/2011 6:25:09 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Do you think Perry can win without Texas?

Before you huff, “Of course he’s going to win Texas” consider this: At one time California was Republican; then, using the same approach Perry espouses, CA veered sharply Left, all due to the overwhelming illegals corrupting the voting process at all levels.

Texas is headed the same way, it’s just 10 or 15 years behind.

SO, if Perry were sincere in his beliefs, he would announce and SHOW everyone how he too can win a presidential election without Texas.

Because, if Perry’s views win the day, Republicans will HAVE to win without Texas and California both.

Show us Perry, show us how it’s done.


2 posted on 10/01/2011 6:30:21 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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4 posted on 10/01/2011 6:35:19 AM PDT by bcsco (Take a Cain - and cure the Pain!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Perry, a rino after George Bush’s heart who was a globalist first and an American seconds.


5 posted on 10/01/2011 6:35:21 AM PDT by kindred ( Third party conservatism is on the rise, God bless the conservative tea party.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

I have stood next to the border fence in California. True, a determined person or organization can get over it. But it’s an important symbol. It’s like the six foot ornamental fence surrounding your property. It makes a statement. “This is my property, stay off.” Will that keep off someone determined to cross your property? No. But it will keep off the other 99% who would otherwise cross. It’s a boundary and boundaries are important in relationships. If you allow someone to cross your boundaries they lose respect for you and then they begin to mistreat you. They begin to assume that what is yours can be theirs for the taking.

Incidentally, abused people have no boundaries. I have often thought that liberals have been subjected to great abuse and have no boundaries and they therefore think that nobody should have boundaries. Think about their attitudes on sex; essentially, nobody can say no without “offending.” Remember, “It wasn’t rape rape.”


6 posted on 10/01/2011 6:36:42 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Mr. Perry’s compassion ends where he believes Texas’ security concerns begin. He has never wavered in his desire to secure the 1,200-mile Texas-Mexico border with manpower, not “preposterous” fencing, or in his frustration with the federal government, which he believes has not adequately protected Texas from the drug violence raging across the Rio Grande.

In 2005, Mr. Perry announced a $10 million state program to increase border patrols and upgrade radio systems along the border. A year later, he unveiled plans to install hundreds of video cameras, creating a multimillion-dollar “virtual” wall that in its first four years proved overly ambitious, netting few arrests. Though Mr. Perry expressed support for improving guest-worker programs in 2003, when President George W. Bush pushed for it in 2005, the governor’s frustration with the federal government kept him from supporting it.

Meanwhile, Mr. Perry has remained at war with the Obama administration over his request in 2010 for 1,000 National Guard troops along the border; he got 250. In August, he asked the federal government to reimburse Texas $350 million, the estimated cost of imprisoning illegal immigrants in state lockups.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/09/us/09ttimmigration.html?_r=1&ref=borderfenceusmexico


10 posted on 10/01/2011 6:41:35 AM PDT by PLD
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To: BarnacleCenturion

If already he’s nothing but an “also ran”, why do you bother?

And the writers would be wasting everyone’s time.

Perry isn’t wrong about trying to build a 1200 mile fence along the Texas Mexico border. Just because some ill-informed say it, doesn’t make it so.

The Perry policy is that fencing makes sense in some urban areas where it can be closely monitored and quickly accessed by border patrol. It’s the continuous fence across hundreds of miles of no mans land he called nonsensical.

For that area he proposed other assets be used, including military and technical. And quick strike teams if and when needed.

Your little picture is something we don’t need to see in order to know it’s happening...we’re experts on the problem here in Texas. It’s the solutions and they start and end with the Federal Govenment that we need to focus on.

Whoever wrote this...who do they support for President? Do they support Sarah Palin whether she runs or not? I know, I have to chuckle at my own joke. But it’s not so funny, come to think...

Again, they say he’s no threat because he said what too many GOP didn’t want to hear. Yet they write an article about it and you post it.

I just saw where Cain endorsed Romney in 2008.

There’s your ticket...Romney Cain.

Oh joy.


11 posted on 10/01/2011 6:44:40 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
The debates represented Perry's chance to moderate his immigration rhetoric, more in line with liberal Democrats than restrictionist Republicans, and reach out to skeptical conservatives.

In other words, the editorial says candidates should lie about their views for political gain. They must love Romney.

It also sloppily conflates in-state tuition (Perry for) with the federal DREAM act (Perry opposed).

I don't think he'll be the nominee; I don't think he was ready for the campaign nor do I think he's particularly passionate for it.

His consistency at the expense of his own campaign is admirable.

I expect Obama to be president until 2017. If somehow he loses, we'll get nibbling incrementalism from the GOP, not fundamental reforms. It'll be a delay of the inevitable, not a reverse course.

13 posted on 10/01/2011 6:48:13 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama wins reelecton; GOP will find a way to lose.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Perry on Border Security — THE TRUTH:

http://governor.state.tx.us/initiatives/border/

Governing Principle

There can be no homeland security without border security, and there can be no higher priority than protecting our citizens.

While our focus begins with preventing the worst of the violence currently raging in northern Mexico from spilling over into the United States, the violence is only part of the destruction that can result from a porous border. The free flow of drugs, weapons and people resulting from inadequate security can undercut economic development, education and trade. As such, they can hurt Texas families in every way imaginable, from loss of jobs to the loss of family members to addiction, imprisonment or death.

Border security is a federal responsibility but a Texas problem, and Texas has invested hundreds of millions of state dollars in efforts to support and supplement security forces already in place. Still, this is a problem that will only be solved with more federal accountability and involvement.

Highlights

» Starting in 2005 with Operation Linebacker, the state has sought to provide funding, manpower and equipment to local law enforcement agencies operating along the Texas-Mexico border.
» The state’s latest operation, Border Star, builds on the successes of previous operations with unprecedented local, state and federal law enforcement coordination. With the assistance of the 80th and 81st Legislatures, the State of Texas has been able to appropriate more than $110 million each session to fund and amplify these efforts.
» In response to a rising tide of gang violence in Texas communities, the Governor allocated $4 million in criminal justice grants to cities across the state to increase patrols of gang hotspots. In 2009, Gov. Perry worked to secure more than $10 million in state funding for enhanced anti-gang efforts during the 2010-11 biennium.
» In September 2009, Gov. Perry announced the formation of highly-skilled Ranger Recon Teams — which include Texas Rangers, Texas National Guard Counterdrug forces, Highway Patrol and DPS Aviation assets — in order to address threats building in the unincorporated areas along the Texas-Mexico border.
» Since early 2009, Gov. Perry has repeatedly called on Washington to authorize the deployment of 1,000 Title 32 National Guard soldiers to the Texas-Mexico border to support border security operations currently underway. (see letter to President Obama, letter to Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and request to Defense Secretary Gates)
» Gov. Perry has also recommended an expeditious deployment of unmanned aerial vehicles to provide real-time surveillance and intelligence to law enforcement on the ground.


14 posted on 10/01/2011 6:50:02 AM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Guzzardi mentions the Israeli fence. When the fence was first proposed (something I thought the Israelis should have built twenty years before), the critics, usual leftist suspects, said it wouldn't work to deter suicide bombers. Suicide bombing dropped precipitously after the fence was built.

Without a doubt, determined illegals could still get into this country. But with a big enough fence, it would be a lot harder.

23 posted on 10/01/2011 7:22:17 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Does anyone remember the video of Pres. Bush at the border with illegals scrambling over a high fence in the background?

If we don’t want illegal immigration, then we have to cut off the jobs offered by employers.

If employers need the workers, then we have to have a well-regulated guest worker program. Look up the Bracero program that worked suceesfully from WWII until the Kennedy administration repealed it to pay off the unions.


29 posted on 10/01/2011 7:48:42 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
It just occurred to me, why Perry takes his position on immigration that he does. He was Texas Agriculture Commissioner. He's a rancher/farmer.

He wants illegals in Texas for the agriculture industry as cheap labor.

Perry simply doesn't realize that he's running for President of the United States and needs to do what's best for the entire US, not the parochial interests of Texas agriculture.

The Federal Government has been about destroying this country with its polices for several decades.

Allowing rampant illegal immigration is one way to destroy it. Obama's the fast track, while Bush/McCain were destroying the country at a slower pace.

Fortunately for American and unfortunately for Perry, allowing illegal immigration is a deal-breaker for a majority of GOP voters. Destroying the country through illegal immigration or destroying the country through Statism of the Obamaniac variety is still destroying the country.

Perry's going down, unless he turns around on this issue.

40 posted on 10/01/2011 8:21:08 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

He’s partly right, for the wrong reason. A fence is not effective enough; we need a WALL! And landmines, and troops and guntowers!


43 posted on 10/01/2011 9:12:39 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

bump.


48 posted on 10/01/2011 1:59:03 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Gov. Perry wants drones (works petty well in the Middle East) and in Israel (where Perry has gone to observe how they do it), boots on the ground and fencing where it works (in urban areas). Janet Napolatano wants drones to patrol our border with Canada — but not Mexico — why is that?? Hmmmm.... too good a political tool?

A 2000 mile long fence over terrain where it is not conducive to building a fence (like on a river) — the proposal of hiding behind a 25 foot wall for 2000 miles with razor wire and gun towers — this tells the world that the U.S. has failed.

Those who push for it don’t know what they’re talking about and if they do and continue to push for it because they think it’s a good political talking point are only causing harm. And by doing so show their low character.

Mexico is the number one trading partner with the U.S. They are not trying to drive us into the sea or refuse to recognize us as a country.

This has been a nice diversion from the issues but that’s what posts like yours are meant to do. You posted it to counter effective dissemination of information.

Rick Perry wants the border sealed. The Federal government won’t — Texas is spending hundreds of millions of dollars and sending Texas Rangers to patrol the 1250 border miles we share with Mexico. He’s the only primary candidate that understands this and wants to do something about it. He’s the only one credible on this issue.


49 posted on 10/01/2011 2:19:46 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: BarnacleCenturion

A border fence worked in Israel!


80 posted on 10/02/2011 8:56:33 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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