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I have to respectfully disagree with Dr. Krauthammer on this one. Obama's ego won't let him take a ruling against the health care lightly. He'll melt down.
1 posted on 10/01/2011 5:28:00 AM PDT by Rufus2007
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Krauthammer, totally wrong once again.


2 posted on 10/01/2011 5:29:50 AM PDT by Reagan69 (First they came for Sarah Palin and conservatives said nothing...)
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Something happened to Krauthammer (or perhaps me). I used to agree with him 95% of the time. Now I almost never agree with him. He just sounds like an Obama fanboy — anything that happens seems, to him, like a good thing for the magic negro.


3 posted on 10/01/2011 5:31:18 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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4 posted on 10/01/2011 5:31:56 AM PDT by maggief
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Well that’s it then, the states should immediatly motion to dismiss their cases because Krauthammer says overturning Obamacare will be good for his re-election. /rolleyes.


5 posted on 10/01/2011 5:36:52 AM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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Krauthammer is way off the deep end on this. Having Obamacare ruled unConstitutional in no way removes the negative aspects of the legislation from Obama. It simply more enhances the image of Obama being a failure as a leader.

I had read here at FR someone post the complete opposite to this opinion by Krauthammer and that the ruling would be a win/win for conservatives and I tend to much more agree with that. The opinion stated basically was that if the Courts rule that it is Constitutional then it makes overturning it legislatively more a major issue and if it is ruled unConsitutional then Obama is a failure and it makes keeping it overturned just as much an issue. (Sorry I do not know where this post is to pinfg to)

Basically as it is with most issues the reality is that either way this ruling goes it is up to both sides and the campaigns to make the ruling a win for them. The conservative base is very fired up over this issue and the left had been giving up defending it. I suspect this issue will be more a win for the right either way.

Still I pray that the Courts overturn Obamacare.


6 posted on 10/01/2011 5:37:01 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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Is Krauthammer on drugs?

If the SCOTUS rules for it: yet more evidence of a tyrannical judiciary forcing the public to accept legislation it was vehemently against but Obama crammed it down our throats anyway.

If they rule against it: a major failure for Obama and the key legislation of his entire presidency.


11 posted on 10/01/2011 5:54:39 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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If I understand his reasoning, if it’s ruled unconstitutional because of the mandate, then Obama can say “I tried shaping the debate over the health care bill, but Congress forgot to include a severability clause, and now it’s gone.” That will get him off the hook?


13 posted on 10/01/2011 5:56:20 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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Hell -an Unconstitutional ruling would not only hurt Obama, it would further undermine Pelosi, Reid and many others who forced it into being by "deeming a vote to have occured" and stupoidly saying "we have to pass it to find out what's in it" or "it's way to beig and complicated to actually read - only a lawyer could understandit, so I'll just vote for it".

Seems like the only hazard for the country would be it being deemed constitutional - else, the Nation wins big time as Obama and the Dims suffer another humiliating (but well-deserved) trouncing at the voting boxes.

15 posted on 10/01/2011 5:59:55 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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The curse of intellegent men is their informed but wrong conclusions of reality.
Obamacare will destroy America and repeal or destroy is a win win for Americans.


19 posted on 10/01/2011 6:11:51 AM PDT by kindred ( Third party conservatism is on the rise, God bless the conservative tea party.)
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He’s right. Obama will use it to run against the “right-wing” court. He’s attacked the court before, including in a state-of-the-union. He said the even leftist courts, like the Warren court, didn’t go far enough. He’d be satisfied either way and maybe more satisfied if it is struck down because it would set the stage for his actual goal of single payer.


20 posted on 10/01/2011 6:14:44 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama wins reelecton; GOP will find a way to lose.)
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Let’s be clear -

If the SCOTUS rules it Constitutional - we don’t have a meaningful Constitution anymore. We no longer have a Federal government of “limited and enumerated powers”. If anything - this MOTIVATES the anti-socialist Americans. The final statement of “see what happens when you don’t pay attention.”

We have a central government of apparently unlimited powers.

If unemployment is not below 7% - a gay teenage Martian centipede will beat Obama. It is about the economy - not Obama’s socialism.

PA, MI, and Ohio voters have seen enough. THe Jews in FL - have seen enough. All the lieing media in the world is not going to save this clown.


21 posted on 10/01/2011 6:16:56 AM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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Krauthammer’s right. People here just feel obligated to disagree with him for some reason. If the Court rules it unconstitutional, it will become a rallying cry for liberals who must turn out to vote to assure an Obama victory — if for nothing else than to turn the Supreme Court liberal.


22 posted on 10/01/2011 6:17:35 AM PDT by BfloGuy (Given enough time, the primary function of any bureaucracy becomes the employment of its employees.)
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The only way the judicial striking down of Obamacare is good for Obama is that it will be a "dead" campagne issue.

That's a stretch. "Mr President, will you champion a new health care reform bill that includes an individual mandate?

25 posted on 10/01/2011 6:41:52 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The unemployment problem only can be solved when Obama is unemployed.)
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It seems like this will put focus on the Supreme Court and remind voters that we dare not let Obama be the one to appoint any more Justices. Also, rulings don’t take topics off of the table, ie look at abortion. Sometimes a ruling highlights and revs up discussion.


28 posted on 10/01/2011 7:05:29 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (If you build it, they will come and take it away from you..)
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I don’t think this will be a win-win for Hussein.

SCOTUS ruling it is constitutional...well, it will still be unpopular with a political solution: defund the damnable atrocity. The Republican nominee can show over and over again how the conservatives in government want to apply the LAW-MAKING POWER OF CONGRESS (see: Article I, section 1) to the health of the nation. “We will repeal this unwise legislation.”

SCOTUS ruling it UNconstitutional...well, break out the sound bites and the celebrations Hussein held over this singular piece of legislation—the Republican nominee will be able to show constant reminders of how Hussein put the country through nearly 4 years of unconstitutional law—and how much it COST us in jobs, peace of mind, etc.


30 posted on 10/01/2011 7:27:41 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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I think the Dems want him to get it off the table one way or another. Does anyone think this idiocy would ever pass again. How many Democrats would vote for it again? I believe the dems have accepted the fact that it probably will be judged unconstitutional and if it isn't it will be repealed anyway. In short they are tired of defending the indefensible.
31 posted on 10/01/2011 7:50:05 AM PDT by ontap
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Obamacare is the cornerstone of the AnointedIdiot’s foundation; as such, I respectfully disagree with Krauthammer’s assertion(s).


32 posted on 10/01/2011 8:45:50 AM PDT by cranked
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Kill the monster. We will deal with Dr. Frankenstein at election time.

(that means Nancy Pelosi is Igor - kinda works, doesn't it?)

33 posted on 10/01/2011 8:47:01 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Am I too old to ask for emancipation from the "Federal Family"?? Sarah Palin)
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I was listening and that is NOT what Kraut said. He said that obamaprobably considered it a win win.


34 posted on 10/01/2011 8:49:31 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Krauthammer, is ObamaCare good law or bad law? Your effing job is to explain that to the public. I am so sick and tired of “our” side. They are basically useless.
35 posted on 10/01/2011 9:32:32 AM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Krauthammer, Rove et. al., STFU. Thank you.)
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