Posted on 09/14/2011 6:46:47 PM PDT by Carling
Actually, I find accusing a fellow GOP member of being bought for $5k to be much more of an insult to Perry than the obvious corruption by Obama. Palin blew it Monday night when she smeared Perry over $5k, or $38k, or $385k, or whatever the new anti-Perry spin is. That’s why she hasn’t said a word about it since then. It was a dumb comment, she got called out on it, and she is trying to bury it. Unfortunately for Sarah, her FR “supporters” can’t see the obvious clue she has given them the past two days.
No problem! ; )
Then you best look it up. It was on the net two or three days ago. Perry is friends with an Arab prince who wanted Muslim studies in the schools. Perry signed off on it. There was posted some of the content of the lessons.
I have a less strident attitude about it, but good god have you ever seen the anger that has been boiling over from decent honorable people that are tired of the freaking 4sale politicians like Perry looking the other way?
What in the hell is wrong with some of you people? Do you care at all? Obviously not in the slightest.
Until i read all the really bad things about Perry I thought it would be good for Palin/Perry ticket. Past tense, I do not want him anywhere near the White House, Obummer has already made it a $hit House. I want someone decent in-the White House,not someone that can be bought and paid for.
Actually I said he sounds stupid, but in context and a poorly written sentence, I meant the name “President Perry” sounds stupid. Makes me think of perrywinkle. Come to think of it he does sound stupid too. Duh.
Actually, I find accusing a fellow GOP member of being bought for $5k to be much more of an insult to Perry than the obvious corruption by Obama to his $1 million bundlers.
Palin blew it Monday night when she smeared Perry over $5k, or $38k, or $385k, or whatever the new anti-Perry spin is. That’s why she hasn’t said a word about it since then. It was a dumb comment, she got called out on it, and she is trying to bury it. Unfortunately for Sarah, her FR “supporters” can’t see the obvious clue she has given them the past two days.
If Palin had meant it against Perry, she would have followed up on it. Instead, she ignored it in her latest Facebook post and attacked the real target, Obama. It’s sad that her fanatics on FR can’t read between the lines, but here we are.
It's not just the GOP that can't afford it, this country can't afford it. Another term of Obama and it's all over, we may recover in a few decades but it will take at least that long and that's only provided the kids coming up have the courage to do it.
This was done in 2008 and it got us McCain (which got us Obama) I can't watch it happen again, I love this country too much.
I’m sorry to hear you have such trouble with the English language. Better luck next time!
Thanks for the link!
I actually was not referring to the issue itself in my post as much as I was the right of Sarah Palin to comment on it as a FOX News consultant which is what she was doing at that time. Right or wrong in her comments, I believe she had the right to make her analysis of the situation on the media outlet that has hired her. That was my simple point. Plus... her voice is just one of many others who have brought this issue out into the open. This is a good thing to do so the public can learn about it, find out more details, and see if it is a real problem or just a lot of spitting about.
If you could see my other posts on earlier threads, you would know I KNOW Gardisil was being promoted to all states and that 18 states, Alaksa one of them, was taking tax payer money to pay for the Gardisil vaccines. Many others were about ready to set Gardasil vaccines in place. I understand it was a NATIONAL move, not one just of Texas. And I really wish that point would be more widely know!
I ALSO understand some are questioning why Rick Perry chose to fund the vaccine as he did. From what I understand, he chose NOT to use federal tax payer money. That is typical for Texas. They don’t like federal oversight “fer nothin’. LOL He took what most would think, in MOST instances, was a conservative route, to keep the program at the local level, away from federal oversight, and to use private sources to pay for the $360.00 vaccinations (while other states were simply taking tax payer money to pay for them for the girls in their other states).
Still, others are concerned Rick Perry would even want to use Gardasil at all, assuming he meant to give the manufacturer money. Well, ALL the states using this vaccine and using the tax payers money, the 18 states at that time doing so and the others starting, were giving that manufacturer money, so to say. They ALL were! Alaska not only used federal funds to pay to vaccinate girls 9-18 but was recommending it to women 19-26 and offered a financial payment plan through Merck, the very same manufacturer people think Rick Perry wanted to give money to, crony capitalism. Now personally, I think loans to that manufacturer like Alaska set up for Merck could possibly be more of a money maker for them than having the flat payments from the insurance company payments as they would get from the Texas plan.
http://hss.state.ak.us/press/2007/pr053107fed-funding-hpv-vax.htm
(Excerpt from Alaska’s Department of Health and Social Services, 2007 - link immediately above):
The CDC recommends the vaccine for girls and women 9 through 26 years old, but the Alaska Department of Health and Social Services only has funding to cover the vaccine for those ages 9 through 18. Women ages 19 through 26 may be able to receive some coverage through Medicaid, their health insurance companies or a special financial aid program set up by Merck & Co. Inc., the vaccine’s manufacturer.
(End of Excerpt)
Again, this shows why the NATIONAL scene needs to become more well known, and vetting helps things like that happen.
That’s why it is so odd that the historical information of that time has not been made more well known as yet. The CDC and major health organizations at the time were telling the states that this vaccine was a must have and a real life saver. The states and their governors believed them and were going that direction. That manufacturer would have made money regardless. It was just a matter of where the money was coming from — the tax payers (which would have been the more liberal way to do it) or the private sector (which is usually considered the more conservative way, except apparently in THIS instance. LOL)
As for opt-in verses opt-out, I think people need to become informed as to WHY it was an opt-out in Texas. By choosing not to take the federal funds and using private sector funds instead (the insurance companies who agreed to cover it if it was considered a mandatory vaccine), Rick Perry had to chose the opt-out option to have it paid for by the insurance. Federal tax payer funds to cover it = an opt-in option but federal bureaucracy over it. Private sector funds (through insurance companies) = requiring it as mandatory so they would pay but allowing for an opt-out for parents who did not want it. He was going with the flow of the states throughout the country with his belief Gardasil should be made available. His difference then was his choice to keep it from federal bureaucracy and how he had to structure it through private, non-government funding.
STILL... I think this needs to be vetted. I think vetting is good. Vetting allows us the opportunity to find out more and consider if something is truly a problem or not.
As you just pointed out too... sometimes vetting one candidate can actually get some good vetting done on other candidates as well.
Thanks again for the link!
You are getting sleepy-very sleepy you must drink your warm milk, must unwind, very sleepy,very sleepy ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
You really think that she or anyone else cares what you think? If you want to talk to her tweet yourself into a frenzy.....
No, that's not her pattern. She takes shots at her GOP competitors only rarely. Her heavy duty continuous artillery has been directed almost exclusively at Obama. To argue from silence that she's somehow let Perry off the crony capitalism hook is wishful thinking on your part. She's just not overplaying a good hand. Keep watching.
I don’t think she’s going to get a mulligan from most people, especially women. She really jumped the shark and proved that she’s not fit to be POTUS.
DRey, I felt a little antagonism there, as if I said something wrong. Maybe you just thought I was being stupid. I had been thinking about the possible situation I referred to, and when I read something you had posted on the thread, it brought me to that thought again. I just thought I would share those thoughts with you as well.
I’m not arguing that she should enter the race... or not. I’m not under the belief that she will have the funds to run a campaign respectful of the highest political officer in our land. I wasn’t changing who I already support for this race. That post was simply sharing and was two-fold.
1. I wondered if she may have been trying to “fund” herself with the tour, movie, etc. I respect your knowledge and hoped you could let me know if that is what people do sometimes. Is that common or accepted practice to try to raise your own funds? Just wondering, and I don’t know the answer. Thought maybe you have that info and could respond with info.
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2. I was sharing my empathy for what may be just a bad situation. While I am supporting Rick Perry for the presidential race, that doesn’t mean I don’t have some feelings for a lovely woman who has taken a special place in our country’s history.
Here’s the deal for me on that second point: I know I have felt frustrated when I hear some of the posters here say things like “she’s got her own way of doing things” (AKA she can snub her nose at everyone and everything and still get ahead) and “she has her own timing (AKA she can snub her nose at everyone and everything and still get ahead) and “she’ll just jump in and she’ll have all she needs” (AKA she can snub her nose at everyone and everything and still get ahead). To hear those kinds of things over and over again has dampened my thoughts of her completely. I did not WANT to think less of her; I wanted to maintain some respect for this woman who did a lot for conservatism and for our GOP party, but those things did cause me to think less of her.
Maybe I should not have chosen you to vocalize a new-found empathy for her - a soft spot where I actually feel sorry for her now. I was thinking... If she does have funding problems, which I really think may be the case, how HARD it must be for her to hear her supporters who say all those things like I just mentioned... those things and a whole lot more which puts her even more into a box. Perform perfectly, yet no funds to do so. That must be pretty hard for someone.
As for the slight antagonism I sensed (which perhaps I was wrong in sensing but I did)... I wasn’t dissing Rick Perry. I know you are a genuine supporter of Rick Perry and that you like him very much - know he is a good man. I was not dissing Rick Perry at all. I thought you knew I support Rick Perry in this presidential race too, and I have not moved at all in my commitment to that.
I just thought I would share my heart’s burden on how hard it must be for Sarah Palin to be in a tough financial situation, even if it IS from a lack of support. It must just be hard for such a woman and especially a woman who has so many people say so many things on her behalf.
I think you and I would agree that even if she does enter the race now, that her funding is minimal. Furthermore, support for her is showing very low, and she will not have the funds to run the important race one needs to run in a national campaign, especially one as important as The President of The United States. If any of her supporters diminishes what should be expected for such a lofty goal, I would feel they are marginalizing the presidency.
I guess I just had a moment of thinking about her as a person and giving her, as a human being, the benefit of the doubt that she is not just toying with people but instead facing a really difficult situation.
If I have bothered you by picking you out to share those thoughts, please accept my apologies. I guess I should not have thought it would be of interest to you, and I will be more aware of any burdensome posts from this point out.
I think it was the tone. I felt as if you were trying to impress upon me she HAS no backing... she HAS no support... as if I didn’t know and needed to be convinced of it. Perhaps I was wrong. Perhaps I’m tired. Please accept my apologies if I read into anything, and thanks for the response.
LOLOLOL!! {^))
You know, now that you mention it -- that's so true. He had more style. And he also had a GREAT screen name!
Windflier, I've always heard that menudo is great for hangovers. ;^)
Sometimes I think these "Palin ain't gonna run" folks are just trying to corrupt you. But you can still type, so you must be holding your *hic* own!
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