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Perry: Wrong then or wrong now
September 14, 2011 | Vanity

Posted on 09/14/2011 5:34:41 PM PDT by MN_Mike

Many supporters of Gov. Perry have come to his defense over this Gardasil matter. The arguments are: (1) Gardasil should have been mandatory with the "opt-out" provision; (2) No big deal because the Texas legislature killed the Executive Order; or (3) as Perry says today, he made a mistake, should have made it "opt-in." Now comes word that Perry's top donor was the Republican Governors Association and that Merck began donating to RGA when Perry became its head.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: captaingardasil; gardasil; perry; perrycare; primary; rinorick; texas
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1 posted on 09/14/2011 5:34:47 PM PDT by MN_Mike
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To: MN_Mike

See my tagline.


2 posted on 09/14/2011 5:36:03 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: MN_Mike

Dead horse, man. Dead horse.


3 posted on 09/14/2011 5:39:08 PM PDT by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: ilgipper

“Dead horse” or sweep it under the rug?


4 posted on 09/14/2011 5:40:40 PM PDT by MN_Mike (ObamACORN, BelaPelosi, and Howie Screed - Trangle of Doom)
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To: MN_Mike

How about doctors and patents decide what’s best for their own health instead of government.


5 posted on 09/14/2011 5:40:49 PM PDT by DB
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To: MN_Mike

I am so sick of this issue. We have so many important things to consider, and people keep beating and beating and beating this dead, dead horse. How many times do people have to bring this up?


6 posted on 09/14/2011 5:41:41 PM PDT by Essie
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To: fieldmarshaldj

It was interesting that Perry campaigned in Virgina, the only state that passed mandatory Gardasil.


7 posted on 09/14/2011 5:41:41 PM PDT by MN_Mike (ObamACORN, BelaPelosi, and Howie Screed - Trangle of Doom)
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To: Essie

It ain’t going away. So, if you are pro-Perry, which is it? Was he right then or now?

And how about those Merck donor bucks channeled through the RGA? $250,000


8 posted on 09/14/2011 5:43:13 PM PDT by MN_Mike (ObamACORN, BelaPelosi, and Howie Screed - Trangle of Doom)
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To: MN_Mike

Thanks mike. He was selected (and Romney) by the Bilderbergers. They obviously liked their “style” of governing else he/they wouldn’t be in the race. Romney gave them romneycare. What will Perry give them?


9 posted on 09/14/2011 5:43:31 PM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: MN_Mike

VANITY THREADS: Wrong then, wrong now.


10 posted on 09/14/2011 5:43:58 PM PDT by Carling (DeMint to Obama: I want to read the bill, not listen to talking points off a TelePrompter.)
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To: MN_Mike

I don’t care one way or the other.

If he gets the nod vs. Obama, he’ll be getting my vote.

If Sarah gets the nod, she’ll get my vote.

Same for Mitt.

Guardisil doesn’t mean a hill of beans to me in light of my country being taken over by democrat commies.


11 posted on 09/14/2011 5:44:11 PM PDT by chris37 (representative)
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To: Essie

Don’t feed the trolls.


12 posted on 09/14/2011 5:44:21 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: DRey

Well, that’s unkind but not unexpected from a Perrywinkle. You sound worse than the comments made at Huffington Post.

Unlike the democrats, the GOP vets its candidates. If you can’t stand the exam now you would not be ready for the media and Obama rectal exam.


13 posted on 09/14/2011 5:47:20 PM PDT by MN_Mike (ObamACORN, BelaPelosi, and Howie Screed - Trangle of Doom)
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To: MN_Mike

Wel then I guess you want Romney, who mandated ALL of healthcare.


14 posted on 09/14/2011 5:47:20 PM PDT by PMAS
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To: PMAS

Wrong. Romney would be the second to the last I’d vote for right ahead of Obama.

Is that how we vet our candidates, by insinuating an alternative motive? By given false choices?


15 posted on 09/14/2011 5:49:34 PM PDT by MN_Mike (ObamACORN, BelaPelosi, and Howie Screed - Trangle of Doom)
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To: DB
How about doctors and patents decide what’s best for their own health instead of government.

Unless the medicine has been proven to be scientifically valid and save lives. Then, why would anyone object?

16 posted on 09/14/2011 5:50:30 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Essie

Put yourself in the Governor’s office, hypothetically.

Would you be willing to let a large segment of the population—young girls—be subjected to the risks of this vaccine? Just to feed some of the local crony capitalism?

Don’t you think a normal person would say not just no, but hell no? What does it say about his character?


17 posted on 09/14/2011 5:50:48 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Governor Palin: "I'm not for sale." It's true. Watch The Undefeated.)
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To: MN_Mike

I’m predicting that you are a future zot. Not for your opinion, but for your obnoxious manner of badmouthing candidates you don’t support.


18 posted on 09/14/2011 5:51:06 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: MN_Mike

Channeled? To whom?

Are you calling the RGA corrupt?

You have proof or just innuendo?


19 posted on 09/14/2011 5:51:44 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Proud to be a RINO.)
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To: MN_Mike

You’ve gone and upset the Captain Gardasil groupies.


20 posted on 09/14/2011 5:51:49 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: MN_Mike

As of right now, Perry and Romney are the only ones in the group that can beat Obama and don’t bring up Palin until she is officially in.
Of these two, we need the most conservative candidate than CAN beat Obama and that my FRiend is Perry.


21 posted on 09/14/2011 5:51:53 PM PDT by PMAS
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To: MN_Mike

I am way more concerned with his illegal alien free for all than the vaccine. Although the vaccine is horrible too. Any intelligent person would not have signed this without proper testing. He screwed the pooch on that one for sure.


22 posted on 09/14/2011 5:52:12 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Government bureaucrats should not be allowed to make medical decisions.

There is no valid argument against this.


23 posted on 09/14/2011 5:52:38 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Governor Palin: "I'm not for sale." It's true. Watch The Undefeated.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Aha....the emergence of the pro cancer crowd!


24 posted on 09/14/2011 5:53:13 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Proud to be a RINO.)
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To: MN_Mike

AHEM, nobody cares about this two bit thing.....i want to know if he’s letting illegal aliens into the country, makin em comfortable after they settle in and then paying for their kid’s edjakashuns...courtesy of the money he gets from hard workin taxpayin texans. Anybody know? I know one thing Sarah is against both of these ideas.....


25 posted on 09/14/2011 5:55:03 PM PDT by flat
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To: Eagle Eye

So, you are saying that Gov. Perry is wrong now by saying he made a mistake then?

And how about the Merck funds channeled through the RGA, appoximately $250,000, that started when Perry became the RGA head? RGA is Perry’s biggest donor?


26 posted on 09/14/2011 5:55:10 PM PDT by MN_Mike (ObamACORN, BelaPelosi, and Howie Screed - Trangle of Doom)
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To: MN_Mike; South40; BillyBoy

That’s just how they roll. They go down their little list in the Perrybot troll talking points playbook...

#1, You just want to elect Slick Willard

#2, You just want to elect Zero

#3, He’s not perfect

#4, Reagan’s not perfect (or various Reagan slander)

#5, Gratuitous insults and threats (You’re a DU troll !)

#6, Questions about your sexual orientation


27 posted on 09/14/2011 5:55:29 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: PMAS
You are so spoiled. Oh whaaaaaa. If you don't vote for my candidate than you must be for Romney. What a brat. Grow up. There are 8 candidates and not one vote has been made. This country does not coronate our President. Everyone gets vetted.
28 posted on 09/14/2011 5:55:47 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: MN_Mike

Would y’all give a pass to Obama if he said Obamacare was a mistake, or if it had not passed Congress?

It is what it is Perry folks. The man is not a conservative. He’s better than O but still pushing left.


29 posted on 09/14/2011 5:55:56 PM PDT by Old Flat Toad (Pima County, home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: MN_Mike
Don't forget that at the time, his former Chief of Staff was a lobbyist for Merck and his Chief of Staff at the time was the mother-in-law of the woman who headed a group called Women in Government, which Merck used to push Gardasil in various states across the country.

But of course, this is all blah blah 'dead horse' or blah blah opt out or blah blah Mitt Romney or blah blah Sarah won't run or blah blah Rick hates cancer.

If you want another interesting one, check out the Thrombovision debacle. It's like a micro-Solyndra except they didn't bother with the whole charade of pretending they'd get the money back.

On a side note, has there ever been a worse name for anything than Thrombovision?

I found that Perry has his very own version of Obama's Rezko land scandal too. Funny, huh?

30 posted on 09/14/2011 5:56:13 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. -- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: MN_Mike

Ah=Ha! I new somebody was benefiting from this sad misdeed of Rick Perry’s!


31 posted on 09/14/2011 5:56:18 PM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE RINOs (BUSHS)!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Object to government mandating that insurance has to pay for it?

Object to government telling people they have to do it?

There are endless things out there that could “save lives”. Where does it end?


32 posted on 09/14/2011 5:56:23 PM PDT by DB
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To: reasonisfaith

If the vaccine is optional then the patient pays.

If it is on the mandated list then insurance pays.

We can debate the merits of whether or not government should regulate their business, but the have and they do and they will.

So...if you believed that there were people that could use a cancer preventing medication and it was in your power to make it available to them at no cost, would you?

Remember, no one was forced into the vaccine, there was ALWAYS an opt out.

So...would you or not?


33 posted on 09/14/2011 5:56:31 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Proud to be a RINO.)
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To: reasonisfaith

>>be subjected to the risks of this vaccine?<<

What risks? So far, everything I have seen says this is one of the safest vaccines ever.

Note I am concentrating on your comment about the risk, not on whether the Government should or should not have created the program.


34 posted on 09/14/2011 5:56:36 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (California: Making Texas more Conservative one voter at a time)
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To: flat

Well, with all due respect, you don’t speak for “every body” and if you are unwilling to answer the vetting questions than you are no better than those who “vetted” Obama.


35 posted on 09/14/2011 5:56:48 PM PDT by MN_Mike (ObamACORN, BelaPelosi, and Howie Screed - Trangle of Doom)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Brilliant and accurate overview. Disgusting isn’t it?


36 posted on 09/14/2011 5:57:37 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Eagle Eye

Ah, another talking point from the drones. Must note that one down.

Rebuttal: Why is Rick Perry interested in the private parts of 12-year old girls ? He’s a politician, not a pediatrician or OB/GYN.


37 posted on 09/14/2011 5:57:58 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: Eagle Eye

38 posted on 09/14/2011 5:58:11 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. -- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Paperdoll

If you could make no cost cancer preventing medication available to those who wanted it while preserving the rights of those that don’t want it, would you?

Are you really pro cervical cancer? You seem to hate Perry for making it available.


39 posted on 09/14/2011 5:59:32 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Proud to be a RINO.)
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To: napscoordinator

Yup, and thanks to Eagle Eye, we have talking point #7...

#7 You want teenage girls to get cancer and DIE !

(Pray tell, how did teenage girls survive to adulthood before Gardasil ?)


40 posted on 09/14/2011 6:00:04 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Thanks, I only try to ask the vetting questions that conservatives do but Obama “vetters” obviously didn’t.


41 posted on 09/14/2011 6:00:12 PM PDT by MN_Mike (ObamACORN, BelaPelosi, and Howie Screed - Trangle of Doom)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

BRILLIANT !


42 posted on 09/14/2011 6:00:51 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: PMAS

Perry and Romney, with all their political warts, are still far preferable to four more years of Obama. Both are the only candidates who can take him down. None of the others have a hope of a general election win.


43 posted on 09/14/2011 6:01:09 PM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

OMG, what a DEVASTATING display of intellectual discussion!

You have so PAWNED me...all my base are belong to YOU....LOL

What a loser you are.


44 posted on 09/14/2011 6:01:23 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Proud to be a RINO.)
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To: reasonisfaith

>>There is no valid argument against this.<<

Children should not be vaccinated against Measles, Rubella, Mumps, Chicken Pox, TB and, not that long ago, Polio? There is no public policy argument, especially since many of these are very contagious?


45 posted on 09/14/2011 6:01:23 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (California: Making Texas more Conservative one voter at a time)
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To: Carling

Now you’re hurting my feelings.....haha

More seriously, shouldn’t we be asking the vetting questions?


46 posted on 09/14/2011 6:02:15 PM PDT by MN_Mike (ObamACORN, BelaPelosi, and Howie Screed - Trangle of Doom)
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To: bt579

PING


47 posted on 09/14/2011 6:02:37 PM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE RINOs (BUSHS)!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“Brilliant” said the alinsky wannabe.


48 posted on 09/14/2011 6:02:47 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Proud to be a RINO.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
#7, If you are critical of Mitt Perry's attempt to force an unproven and unnecessary vaccine into the veins of young girls you hate Texas females and want them to die of cancer.

Such is the warped rationale of a Perry supporter.

49 posted on 09/14/2011 6:03:18 PM PDT by South40 (Rick Perry - the liberal's choice to replace Obama)
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To: reasonisfaith

Please stop the nonsense! I live in Texas, and I know of a lot of young girls who are sexually active. I also know of some in the their early twenties who have had cervical cancer. The governor had sound reasons to want the vaccine but went about it the wrong way. I didn’t like the idea of a mandate. The governor has admitted that it was a bad decision and apologized for it. He has said that he was wrong. Anyone who brings this up is just trying to attack Perry. I don’t care if he becomes president, but I do care if he gets fair treatment. They brought this up again and again and again during the his primary with Kay Bailey Hutchinson, and you know who won. If you want Perry to get the nonmination, keep attacking him for silly reasons.


50 posted on 09/14/2011 6:03:25 PM PDT by Essie
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