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EXCLUSIVE: 3rd 'Fast and Furious' Gun at Border Agent Murder Scene
Fox News ^ | 9-9-2011 | William Lajeunesse

Posted on 09/09/2011 8:45:58 AM PDT by thouworm

A third gun linked to "Operation Fast and Furious" was found at the murder scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, new documents obtained exclusively by Fox News suggest, contradicting earlier assertions by federal agencies that police found only two weapons tied to the federal government's now infamous gun interdiction scandal.

Sources say emails support their contention that the FBI concealed evidence to protect a confidential informant. Sources close to the Terry case say the FBI informant works inside a major Mexican cartel and provided the money to obtain the weapons used to kill Terry.

Unlike the two AK-style assault weapons found at the scene, the third weapon could more easily be linked to the informant. To prevent that from happening, sources say, the third gun "disappeared."

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; dncrico; doj4criminals; doj4murderers; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder4criminals; holder4murderers; typicaldnctreason; typicaldojcoverup; typicalholdercoverup
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1 posted on 09/09/2011 8:46:02 AM PDT by thouworm
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To: MestaMachine; Nachum

ping!


2 posted on 09/09/2011 8:47:34 AM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: thouworm

The government lied ?
Imagine that ?


3 posted on 09/09/2011 8:48:22 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I want a Triple A president for our Triple A country)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/gunrunner.htm


4 posted on 09/09/2011 8:48:59 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; Josephat; Prince of Space; ...
HUGE!!! PING!!!


5 posted on 09/09/2011 8:50:01 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: thouworm

Been waiting on the video. They have EMAILS! DAMN!!!


6 posted on 09/09/2011 8:51:44 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: thouworm

Is ANY of this making it into the MSM?


7 posted on 09/09/2011 8:51:56 AM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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8 posted on 09/09/2011 8:52:20 AM PDT by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: thouworm

...Did they “dis-appear the informant yet???


9 posted on 09/09/2011 8:54:20 AM PDT by gargoyle (...This looks like a good fight, deal me in...)
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To: thouworm

This is NOT a National Security issue. Release all the info to the general public. We will make up our own minds. The only reason not to release the info is to protect the administration.


10 posted on 09/09/2011 8:54:35 AM PDT by RC2
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To: samtheman

The Fox story showed the emails. They can’t hide this anymore! The FBI knew, and watched. They let it go and go on. This is huge. And the third gun *mysteriously* disappeared.


11 posted on 09/09/2011 8:55:52 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: Joe Brower

ping HUGE


12 posted on 09/09/2011 8:56:57 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: MestaMachine

Is this story going anywhere outside of conservative circles or has the MSM working for ObamaThugs totally shut it down?


13 posted on 09/09/2011 8:57:37 AM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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To: Travis McGee

ping


14 posted on 09/09/2011 8:57:51 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: thouworm
No issue, not up to the level of replacing political appointees
15 posted on 09/09/2011 9:00:15 AM PDT by NoDRodee (U>S>M>C)
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To: MestaMachine

Fox video:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1140691014001/cover-up-in-atf-scandal


16 posted on 09/09/2011 9:00:19 AM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: thouworm

Unexpected.


17 posted on 09/09/2011 9:01:03 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: thouworm

And probably the gun used to shoot the congress woman along with killing a judge and several others was also an F&F gun. We’ve probably been lied to that it was not.


18 posted on 09/09/2011 9:02:26 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: MestaMachine

Sorry: this video is NOT the new one. Same show; same reporter; OLD story


19 posted on 09/09/2011 9:02:51 AM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: samtheman

I don’t see how they can avoid it now. Some of the nsn has been trying to say this was just a *botched operation* but these two emails nail the coffin shut.


20 posted on 09/09/2011 9:04:02 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: samtheman

Tinkering with evidence in a homocide investigation of a Federal Agent?

That would make them an accessory BEFORE and AFTER the fact, and complicit in the homocide, not to mention obstructing . Agreed , this is HUGE !


21 posted on 09/09/2011 9:04:44 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Nothing to see here. . ... Move along !)
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To: thouworm
"It also confirms that the FBI was at least as culpable, and perhaps more culpable, than the ATF in the (Fast and Furious) scandal, and that there was some guiding hand above both these agencies (and the other agencies involved) coordinating the larger operation," Vanderboegh said.

Yep, the "resident" at 1600 Penn. Ave.

22 posted on 09/09/2011 9:05:26 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: MestaMachine

I’m definitely calling my commie congresscritter, not that it will do much good. I’m still calling.


23 posted on 09/09/2011 9:06:18 AM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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To: samtheman

Is ANY of this making it into the MSM?
~~~~~~~

Not yet. CBS has carried an article. To my knowledge even DRUDGE has never picked up the scandal. We are all wondering what he is waiting for.


24 posted on 09/09/2011 9:06:27 AM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: thouworm

I have the wwindow open and keep checking. should be up fairly soon. It is DAMNING! It literally took my breaath away.


25 posted on 09/09/2011 9:06:43 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: thouworm

Yeah, the Drudge thing totally mystifies me.


26 posted on 09/09/2011 9:07:17 AM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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To: Travis McGee
TRAVIS!!!!
27 posted on 09/09/2011 9:12:09 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: samtheman

It mystifies us all. We have turned this in on his tips a zillion times. Nada.


28 posted on 09/09/2011 9:14:09 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: samtheman

Drudge has punted on a lot of stories.


29 posted on 09/09/2011 9:15:07 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: thouworm

Got it!

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1140691014001/cover-up-in-atf-scandal


30 posted on 09/09/2011 9:28:12 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...


31 posted on 09/09/2011 9:30:16 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; Josephat; Prince of Space; ...
VIDEO UP NOW! MUST SEE THIS!


32 posted on 09/09/2011 9:32:11 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
...the FBI concealed evidence to protect a confidential informant.

Yeah, just like they are gonna 'protect' someone at Solyndra, too................

33 posted on 09/09/2011 9:40:31 AM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: MestaMachine

uh crap!!! STILL not the right video! This is pi%%ing me off!


34 posted on 09/09/2011 9:42:38 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: MestaMachine

thanks!

Sipsey Street ping (I pinged you to thread)

FOX blows the Terry murder cover-up to pieces, and the Gunwalker Plot cover-up with it.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2775970/posts


35 posted on 09/09/2011 9:45:16 AM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: MestaMachine

He’s obviously made a conscious decision to ignore this. It’s impossible that he doesn’t know about it.

Maybe they threatened his life or his children.

They are mafia, after all.


36 posted on 09/09/2011 9:46:07 AM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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To: MestaMachine

THIS should be it. It’s up on the article.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/09/exclusive-third-gun-linked-to-fast-and-furious-identified-at-border-agents/


37 posted on 09/09/2011 9:51:44 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: Joe Brower

Nothin’ there, but a leaking gun.


38 posted on 09/09/2011 9:54:55 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: MestaMachine

Thanks. That IS the video! I saw it on FOX today because I had taped the program. They covered it at the very end of their show, and it was TOO short. That’s when I went to FOX news website and found the article. FOX should expand their coverage and cover this all weekend. Their is no more important news, unless a terrorist bomb goes off somewhere.

MestaMachine’s link to VIDEO:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/09/exclusive-third-gun-linked-to-fast-and-furious-identified-at-border-agents/


39 posted on 09/09/2011 10:08:10 AM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: thouworm

Drudge has it on his site. Top left.


40 posted on 09/09/2011 10:09:13 AM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: thouworm
(Records show agents fired beanbags in fatal border gunfight)......"Files add some clarity to Terry's death; agents used beanbags against migrants, who replied with gunfire"

[snip] Border Patrol agents shot beanbags at a group of suspected bandits before the men returned fire during a confrontation in a remote canyon, killing agent Brian Terry with a single gunshot, records show.

And an illegal immigrant wounded in the gunbattle who is now the only person in custody linked to the slaying contends he never fired a shot, according to FBI search warrant requests filed in the U.S. District Court in Tucson.

The documents provide the most detailed version yet of what happened in the deadly gunbattle Dec. 14 in Peck Canyon, northwest of Nogales.

The documents say the group of illegal border entrants refused commands to drop their weapons after agents confronted them at about 11:15 p.m. Two agents fired beanbags at the migrants, who responded with gunfire. Two agents returned fire, one with a long gun and one with a pistol, but Terry was mortally wounded in the gunfight.

41 posted on 09/09/2011 10:12:27 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Raebie; MestaMachine

“Drudge has it on his site. Top left.”

Thanks you. FINALLY! Yeaaaa! Small headline...not in red, but that’s a start.


42 posted on 09/09/2011 10:18:48 AM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: thouworm

The glory that was Rome is of another day. WAKE UP AMERICA!


43 posted on 09/09/2011 10:21:55 AM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: thouworm

He also has a link to this LA Times story:

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-atf-gun-20110908,0,109137.story


44 posted on 09/09/2011 10:26:02 AM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: shield

“And probably the gun used to shoot the congress woman along with killing a judge and several others was also an F&F gun. We’ve probably been lied to that it was not.

That was the DOJ’s biggest fear. They were panicked. As all this gunwalker news leaks out, the administration is doing its frenetic best to keep the MSM busy with “important” news. It can’t last forever. They can’t bury this anymore.


45 posted on 09/09/2011 10:30:43 AM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: Raebie; MestaMachine

After I posted the thread, I sent the FOX link to a friend that gets Drudge’s attention (but I had done that twice before [to no avail] with a gunwalker story, thinking that Drudge was just waiting for a “smoking gun” story from a mainstream source).

Good that he has now posted both stories. We will see where he goes from here and if he stays on top of it. If Drudge keeps up the pressure, it will expedite critical mass.

MM: Did you see Raebie’s post that Drudge has 2 gunwalker story links in top left column?


46 posted on 09/09/2011 10:43:41 AM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: thouworm

There was a blurb about the 3rd weapon being a H&K MP5

If so, that would explain how it was harder to “explain”.

http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/_thumbs/Images/smg/smg14/hk_mp5n.jpg


47 posted on 09/09/2011 10:53:25 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: thouworm

Yeah. I went and checked it out. No sirens, but at least they are there. Fingers crossed. I mean, is it possible he didn’t think this story was important enough to report?


48 posted on 09/09/2011 10:53:44 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: Texas Fossil

Whew! Sure would.


49 posted on 09/09/2011 10:55:02 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: Texas Fossil

And it conveniently disappeared? Oh boy!


50 posted on 09/09/2011 10:56:41 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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