Skip to comments.Rick Perry's pro-immigration Texas base
Posted on 09/04/2011 9:54:52 PM PDT by Tempest
POLITICO's Ken Vogel passes along an email sent by Perry contributor Norman Adams that contained a separate email from Steve Hotze, also a Perry bundler based in Texas. Both emails make donor solicitations that underscore Perry's position helping to kill a bill similar to the Arizona immigration legislation, for instance.
The upshot is that these are not necessarily positions that either primary and caucus voters know about Perry, or that will sit well with them.
As I noted in another post, it's not clear that immigration is the driver of voter interests in presidential primaries that some believe it to be. But it will be interesting to see how Perry tries to keep both his donor base of Texas businessmen, who tend to favor the immigrants who aid the state's economy, and voters happy.
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I guess Perry’s lead has gotten bigger.
The article says it is uncertain that immigration issues are of importance to voters. Its an issue that it of importance to mosy voters but an issue untouched by candidates of both parties. The GOP especially will not touch the issue and you can bet Perry apologists on FR will dismiss the issie as unimportant.
Perry supporters of course are welcome to prove me wrong.
The article says it is uncertain that immigration issues are of importance to voters. Its an issue that it of importance to most voters but an issue untouched by candidates of both parties. The GOP especially will not touch the issue and you can bet Perry apologists on FR will dismiss the issie as unimportant.
Perry supporters of course are welcome to prove me wrong.
Posting another Axelrod hit piece from the Obama drones at Leftico a certified Obama propaganda outlet!
Whats next Perry hater , a NY Slimes perry hit piece.
Watching you Obama Obot trolls freak out and still try to peddle the concerned poster scan has been a real laugh.
Ya , your just another concerned troll too.
Oh, for pete’s sakes...this article is from Politico...need one say more about there being any truth in it?
Currently, this is how the Hopefuls rate on immigration policy (from worst to mediocre best):
F-minus: Barack Obama
F: Ron Paul
F: Gary Johnson
F: Rick Santorum
D-minus: Newt Gingrich
D-minus: Jon Huntsman
D-minus: Rick Perry
D: Sarah Palin (not a candidate)
D: Mitt Romney
C-minus: Herman Cain
C+: Tim Pawlenty (quit race)
B-minus: Michele Bachmann
Then you are voting for Obama?
Hell no! I’m tired of RINOs.
NO MORE RINOs.
I’m not buying the establishment’s divider.
Obama ought to be in office when all his crap comes home to roost.
But, no, I’m not voting for Obama.
If Perry;’s my only choice, I just won’t vote.
Is there any chance at all that Republicans will nominate a Republican, as our candidate for POTUS?
If not, I vote we Republicans all go Gault sooner, rather than later.
I put as much stock in a “Politico” article as I would a NY Times article by Lindsey Lohan on “How to be a Good Role Model”.
I’m not saying that there aren’t folks in all 50 States who care about the Immigration issue, but the people who care most about this issue are in the border states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California. No Pubbie will carry CA anyhow and any Republican will carry the other 3 states regardless.
Are you saying there is someone still alive that doesn’t know Perry opposed an Arizona-type law for Texas? After he said so repeatedly and publicly? After it was argued and discussed for days and weeks?
That is truly hilarious. Let’s not PRETEND that we haven’t discussed this for the past week ad nauseum, so we can pretend that Perry was trying to HIDE his opposition to a texas version of the law from people. Let’s IGNORE his public statements, and say he is trying to be sneaky.
Hint: If you are going to smear a candidate by claiming he is hiding something, you should do that FIRST, and then LATER start publishing his public pronouncements about the subject. Doing it the other way just makes you look crazy.
I don’t get how someone who has only been here since 2008 gets off calling two people who have been FReepers since 1999 trolls?
Perry will not be the nominee. His candidacy has more holes than a ten-gallon hat slice of swiss cheese. It’s just a matter of time before the Tea Party casts its solemn gaze on his tenure in Texas and coughs up a furball.
Using Obama as an emotional ploy to hide the pro-illegal immigrant money that may be making it to Rick Perry reminds me of the good old days.
I used to defend Dick Nixon from the liberal media back in the 1970’s. The anger I felt towards the liberals and Democrats for going after Nixon was palpable and real.
But Mr. Nixon was guilty of covering up for his people who broke into the DNC offices at the Watergate.
The liberal media was bad and out to get Nixon, but Nixon was a crook.
Lets get all the facts on the table.
Obama is bad and evil and a politician who takes money from special interests and pays them back.
Does Rick Perry fit that description, too ????????
Here is the entire text of the 2nd e-mail, as given by the article. Could someone tell me what part had anything to do with immigration? I highlighted the part the left-wing Politico said was "problematic", but it looks like religion, not immigration:
Dear Norman,Are we supposed to object to turning back Marxism now? I don't get it. Where is the immigration issue mentioned?
Thank you so much for your investment of $5,000 in Governor Rick Perry's campaign for President and your help getting others to do the same.
You have taken advantage of a great opportunity to restore our nation and return it to its Constitutional foundation.
Because of your support and the other members of our team, we raised over $205,000 in investments for the Perry for President campaign. We were second in the greater Houston area and third in the state.
We are involved in a life and death struggle with the dark forces of socialism and Marxism.
Under the leadership of Rick Perry, free enterprise will once again flourish and conservative and Christian values will be revived.
With Gods help and your support I am confident that we shall be victorious in our efforts!
With much appreciation for your friendship and support, I remain, as always,
Steven F. Hotze, M.D.
Conservative Republicans of Texas
Maybe those folks got on in 1999 because Karl Rove or someone else wanted them to help promote the “compassionate conservative” candidate who gave us Medicare Part D and TARP.
Now they may be in the tank for Perry.
I admit that could be wrong, but we need to understand that in big time politics, all stops are pulled out and all means used to push and promote candidates.
That includes trolling into websites like FR.
The Perry onslaught for the last month on this site has been something to behold.
“Conservative Republicans of Texas” sounds like a nice title, but what does it really mean??????
An emotional fundraising letter designed to manipulate cash out of well-meaning conservative people to support causes or candidates that might not be so conservative.
Until 2009 Rick Perry spoke one way, then all of the sudden when the Tea Party came along, he started speaking a different way.
It has a Romneyesque look to it.
Here in PA a RINO state senator who voted to raise his own pay sixteen percent and voted to raise taxes ran for Congress.
His campaign ads were all about Nancy Pelosi.
Is that all you can do to promote Perry, use Obama as an emotional wedge to get us to vote for someone who looks a lot like RINO Romney, a flip flopper.
I’m so over the Perrybot I’m just poking at there cage with a stick at this pint.
Amongst ACORN Recruiters and illegal immigrant, it's huge.
When I’m not listening to Perry supporters flip out around here. I can also go to Daily Kos and DU to hear their insight....
The guy who wrote this letter was singing a different tune in 2008 regarding the pre-2009 Rick Perry.
Not only has Perry switched sides, the guy writing the fundraising letter has....
Interesting. Not only did the guy’s fundraising e-mail NOT mention immigration, but the guy is solidly anti-illegal-immigrant, and so would NEVER have written a fundraising article praising Perry for a pro-illegal-immigration position.
Further, you can infer by his 2007 letter you linked to that, if he still thought Perry was pro-illegal, he would never be raising money for him.
That is a very useful counter to this silly politico article that falsely claimed the guy’s e-mail was a pro-amnesty fund-raiser.
Of course, the other e-mail had nothing to do with “pro-amnesty” either. But at least it had something to do with immigration policy.
Great, now you are posting pictures of people flipping the bird at us. How low will you sink?
Who do you support?
What’s this ‘us’ crap? Your a snake oil selling, Pro-NAFTA, illegal immigrant loving, gardisil shooting, Democrat.
and I’m a conservative.
There is no us.
That pretty much is their scam isn’t it.
That’s a great chart for people that don’t have two eyeballs or can’t think for theselves.
Oddly enough it’s scared trolls that often make ad hominem, strawmen arguements like you do....
that’s an awesome find!
They play with our emotions and use “wedge issues” as Rove calls them to suck us into supporting RINO’s.
Back in 1988 Bush 41 who said “read my lips, no new taxes” was making a speech saying something like “I’m not a card carrying member of the ACLU.”
He was making an emotional connection with conservatives to get their votes, not promising to make government smaller.
Its way past time for a Republican president to do that.
Its way past time to sober up and not be fooled anymore by these emotional ploys.
The letter speaks of Rick Perry switching his positions from the ones he took in the 2006 election.
Immigration and a tax increase proposal from Perry are in the mix of issues.
This same guy who’s raising money for Perry now was saying back then......”Its time for Texas Republicans to stand for principle once more and not fall for the empty promises of Rick Perry and his kind.”
I’m glad to see that more and more Freepers are starting to see through Rick Perry.
To me he’s a completely transparent, butt-kissing, shyster that apparently serves a pretty mean glass of kool-aid.
I sometimes wonder if some of his supporters around here aren’t part of his Texas network looking to profit off of his tendancy to sellout to close friends and family.
Read the letter I linked to in post #33.
PERRY RAISED TAXES IN TEXAS......
“Numbers USA” founder is an environmentalist activist.
55% of working age Californians had a job in July, in your home state.
Maybe Rick Perry can help out with that problem. Gov. Moonbeam and Gov. Schwartzenrinolovechild do not seem to have set the stage for much improvement.