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1 posted on 08/20/2011 6:50:43 AM PDT by Libloather
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the governor said "climate change is real." He added that "human activity plays a role in these changes" and that climate change is "impacting our state."

Christie is an insufferable moron. Yes the climate is changing. It has been changing since the earth was formed. It will continue to change until the sun goes super-nova.

I guess Christie thinks that if Guam gets overpopulated it will capsize?

34 posted on 08/20/2011 7:23:43 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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He added that "human activity plays a role in these changes"

I can't prove it, but I strongly suspect that Christie knows nothing about the nature of climate change, the debate about human influence on it, nor the history of this controversy. Liberals have succeeded in making this a litmus test of scientific literacy -- if you buy AGW, then you're an enlightened, scientifically knowledgeable person. If you don't, you're a knuckle-dragging troglodyte.

35 posted on 08/20/2011 7:24:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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This is one of my critical-to-watch, key issues that I think exposes the true nature of a politician. The "belief" in man-made "climate change" (which has been going on for billions of years) and the notion that tax payer dollars should be stolen and "invested" in a futile effort to fight against the forces of nature is one of the best ways to expose a corrupt, big-government, collectivist politician. Despite their rhetoric and dooms-day scenarios, it's all about one thing - using this discredited nonsense as a way of taking away our freedoms and strengthening the centralized-government master. A new world order power grab is all this is now - nothing more.

Christie has finally exposed himself as yet another big-government, nanny state RINO. And I thought he might not be as bad as some of the others. Wrong. Just another corrupt elite that wants to rule over us as subjects.

36 posted on 08/20/2011 7:33:41 AM PDT by MCH
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He added that "human activity plays a role in these changes" and that climate change is "impacting our state."

WTF is he talking about? I live next door in New York city, name ONE thing "climate change" has impacted?? Don't tell me "flooding" everytime it rains. New Jersey has always had flooding problems for as long as I can remember, and I'm 50. I can't believe this guy saddling up to the wackos.

37 posted on 08/20/2011 7:39:05 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Mark Halperin - Learned the hard way what happens when you speak the truth on PMSNBC.)
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In other RINO-related news...

Pawlenty staffers, fundraisers in talks with Chris Christie to enter presidential race

38 posted on 08/20/2011 7:43:26 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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I would not have a problem with the statement if it went something like this. “Yes Climate Change is real, its been happening since the creation of the World, and their aint nothing we can do to stop it.”


40 posted on 08/20/2011 7:46:39 AM PDT by NavyCanDo (Go Mama Grizzly! Palin 2012)
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Someone memo this to ChristieIdiot: http://www.thegwpf.org/images/stories/gwpf-reports/happer-the_truth_about_greenhouse_gases.pdf


41 posted on 08/20/2011 7:47:39 AM PDT by cranked
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Yeah, climate change is real. We call them seasons! I live in New England. The climate changes hear everyday. And not using aerosol or rinsing out my tuna cans isn’t going to do a damn thing about it.


42 posted on 08/20/2011 7:47:53 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Libloather; NVDave; CedarDave; B4Ranch; dirtboy; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Humans can change climate on at least a local scale, not by adding carbon dioxide, but by mismanagement of vegetation. Remove the plant cover via poorly managed grazing, catastrophic forest fire, added pavement, and tilling, and surface temperatures will rise while relative humidity falls.

Consider the thermal map of the grass below:

As a real life example, there is solid scientific evidence to suggest that the Sahara Desert was induced by exactly such causes, as a trophic cascade of events that began in the Near East 6,000 years ago subsequent to 9,000 years of continuous nomadic hunting and grazing. At that time, there was a river across the Saudi Peninsula five miles wide. There was a lake above Oman nearly 100 miles across. There are hippopotamus teeth still on the ground. In fact, I think the Hebrew in the old Cain and Abel story chronicles these very events (I've been working on a new translation for about a year).

Desertification happens fast, and when it does, the results can be huge.

The thermal plume of heat adsorbed by that rocky surface extends from Saudi Arabia, all the way to the Caribbean.

Contrast the effect of the central xeric Asian/African surface to the effect South American vegetation exerts. This is independent of the heat concentrations in the centers of the oceanic gyres (circular currents with no sinking mechanism but evaporation).

My hypothesis is that this is REAL anthropogenic climate change, and the policies of the United States government are abetting its equivalent in the American Southwest.

43 posted on 08/20/2011 7:52:51 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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Say “goodnight”, Chris.


44 posted on 08/20/2011 7:53:18 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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He added that "human activity plays a role in these changes"

There's the money quote. He could potentially make a decent department head, I guess. Maybe a spot on the NLRB, until it's disbanded.
47 posted on 08/20/2011 7:56:09 AM PDT by andyk (Income != Wealth)
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AAAAAND.....we’re done. Thank you and good night, Mr Christie.


48 posted on 08/20/2011 7:58:08 AM PDT by jimjohn
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Perry Will Win Big

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/perry_will_win_big.html


49 posted on 08/20/2011 8:02:13 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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The killer about the whole AGW theory is that it's basically a battering ram to destroy capitalism and the entire American economy, replacing them with international central planning and communism on a scale that could only have been dreamt of by Marx, Engels, and Lenin in their most ecstatic communist wet dreams. Thus, belief in it MUST DISQUALIFY any individual who's attempting to get a pubbie nomination because he shows himself as being no better than the Illegal on the most important issue of our time: freedom v. communism.
50 posted on 08/20/2011 8:02:19 AM PDT by libstripper
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I long ago abandoned any hope of Chris Christie being a conservative that I could support in the 2012 presidential election. This kind of nonsense is one reason why. It’s too bad Ann Coulter decided to support a RINO that has zero chance of winning the Republican presidential nomination.


51 posted on 08/20/2011 8:07:17 AM PDT by Jim Scott ( "Game On!" - Sarah Palin)
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Another RINO bites the dust. Globull warming and thinking muzzies are great. Two good reason for Christie to stay in New Jersey.


52 posted on 08/20/2011 8:08:06 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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Climate Change IS real. 16,000 Years ago, New Jersey was covered by a mile DEEP Glacier.

It melted. Not man’s fault. Period.

When that Glacier decides it wants to come back, are we going to pay people to release CO2 to save New Jersey from being scraped off the map?

Take the fork out of your mouth, Christie and stick it in yourself. You are done.


55 posted on 08/20/2011 8:13:41 AM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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Christie: Climate change is real

Yes, anyone knows climate change is real. It's just that the doctrine that man is the cause of climate change that can only go in one bad way (well, whichever way is convenient to argue the point) is crap.
56 posted on 08/20/2011 8:15:13 AM PDT by aruanan
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“Change” in global climate is certainly real.

There have been times in human history, and way way before it, of dramatically different global climate.

There are three real questions.

Is it going up or down?

How much does human activity influence it?

And is this a good thing or a bad thing?

Now when I was very young they were saying it was cooling and it was going to be disastrous and man was most certainly to blame - capitalism especially.

Now they are saying it is warming and it is going to be disastrous and man was most certainly to blame - capitalism especially.

The Medieval warm period seemed to be good times and good wines for all involved - are they growing grapes in England again yet - or is it not yet that warm?

57 posted on 08/20/2011 8:16:10 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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Idiot. Liberals aren't going to vote for you no matter what you say about Climate Change. You're only costing yourself votes.

Which, come to think of it, is probably a good thing for America. Christie might be good on the fiscal issues but I have a feeling he'd nominate nothing but Left-Wing Hacks for Judgeships.

59 posted on 08/20/2011 8:16:27 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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