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West Memphis 3 return to court and, perhaps, freedom (murdered three 8yo boys in 1993, now free)
Arkansas Times Blog ^ | Friday, August 19, 2011 - 05:51:15

Posted on 08/19/2011 8:15:35 AM PDT by DCBryan1

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To: Terry Mross
I wish there was a law that whenever anyone is wrongfully convicted because of police corruption the cops and the prosecutors should serve the time.

Hey, I could get behind that. I wish there were a law that said whenever someone works to free a convicted murderer from prison who then goes out and murders yet again, gets the same sentence as the murderer. Surely, you could get behind that?

101 posted on 08/19/2011 11:25:08 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Brytani

Wrong, a jury convicted them and all of the appeals failed. End of story, let them rot.


102 posted on 08/19/2011 11:41:15 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: LibWhacker

I like both ideas.


103 posted on 08/19/2011 11:53:51 AM PDT by jboot
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To: allmendream

First of all, you’re using specific instances where DNA could not be planted. I’m talking about dirty cops.

Second, I won’t continue to argue with someone who believes all cops are saints. Intelligent saints at that.

These cops were crooked. Any cop who would interrogate and threaten a retarded kid is a piece of crap.


104 posted on 08/19/2011 1:05:26 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: LibWhacker

I guess it’s useless talking to someone who says stuff like “a man’s conviction is overturned, therefore found not to have murdered, but goes out and murders AGAIN”. Goodbye.

And I would get behind that if it was someone idiot with a closed mind who refuses to look at facts. Someone, say, like you. See you on the gallows.


105 posted on 08/19/2011 1:07:26 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: jboot

For some reason they didn’t video this interrogation with a retarded kid.

And for some reason the report taken by the cop at the fast food restaurant about a man coming in with blood all over him was lost. Plus, the cops weren’t even going to tell that but the employees came forward then they had to admit it. Just plain top flight police work, huh. Just wonderful cops who stand for law and order and the American way.

There won’t be a trial because the cops don’t want to admit they framed three kids. I hope the cops get what’s coming to them.

Wanta’ talk about the Yogurt Shop Murders in Austin? The original cop on the case says the cops who took over for him got a false confession. Why did he say that? One, there was no video. Two, this kid used the term “accelerant”. The cop said he knew that’s police lingo that the cops said the kid had said. The DA had to eventually drop the charges because there was no evidence. Only a trumped up confession by crooked cops. They do exist, you know. Oh, wait a minute. Not in your perfect little world.

Finally, I used to be a cop so don’t preach to me about how all cops are straight up guys. Lots of them will break the law to get a conviction. And that’s why I said I “used to be a cop”. I couldn’t stand by and watch it happen. But I also knew that I’d better not cross that thin blue line.


106 posted on 08/19/2011 1:15:26 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Terry Mross

You are completely off base there - I am about as far from being of the opinion that all cops are saints as it is possible to be while not actively plotting against them.

Yes, dirty cops. From the movie “Knock Around Guys”....

“We are having trouble with a cop!”

“Yeah... a CORRUPT cop.”

“He said cop.”

i.e. “corrupt” as a modifier to “cop” was unnecessarily redundant.

I remember when people (i.e. stupid people) were saying that the blood from O.J. at the crime scene could have been planted. I was wondering how likely it was that the cops on scene had a vial of O.J.’s blood available to splatter around.

The specifics of this case are immaterial. You said it was easy for a cop to plant DNA evidence - I am still not seeing it.

That being said - I am all for “chain of custody” documentation such that the Police have almost no access AT ALL to any blood or otherwise biological samples of suspects.

Last thing we need is them having some “throwdown” DNA.


107 posted on 08/19/2011 1:25:52 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

I think what the people were saying about the OJ blood is he gave a sample. The police booked it as a certain amount. Then later about half of it was missing. So they had an old retired technician on oxygen say in a video deposition that in all his years of taking blood samples he’d never made a mistake but he must have made a mistake this one time and wrote down more blood than he’d actually taken. I don’t know if the old man made a mistake for the first time in his life or not. But the jurors didn’t buy it.


108 posted on 08/19/2011 1:33:58 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: The Toll
When it comes to law and order I am as gung ho for putting people to death as anyone you could ever find. If you think these three are quilty in any way you are out of your ever loving mind and need to get checked out.

I 'm a hard core supporter of the death penalty and have nothing but contempt for the anti death penalty clowns and fools.

That said I think that deliberate misconduct by officials in capital offenses should be severely punished

if what people are saying is true.then Kent Arnold and the others involved with him need to get life in prison at hard labor

109 posted on 08/19/2011 1:44:32 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: Terry Mross
Oh.

So you think that sometime after the crime, sometime after the crime scene evidence was collected - OJ gave a blood sample - and then half of that was used to contaminate the crime scene and the crime scene evidence?

The contemporaneous cut on OJ’s hand was purely coincidental no doubt.

The OJ jury was infamously idiotic, partisan, and ignorant. Nice to know you keep good company.

110 posted on 08/19/2011 1:47:38 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: jboot
Are the innocent not being punished? Check. The system worked!

Uh, it's not quite that simple. An innocent spent 17 years on death row, how do you recover that lost time? An innocent spent 17 years on death row, who will hire a convicted murderer?

You fill out a job application that asks the question "have you ever been convicted of a crime", if you answer yes, you're going to have to explain. You won't get the job. If you answer no and are hired and they find out you lied, you're fired.

You're F'ed............

So to address your statement, the innocent will be unjustly punished for the rest of his life...........just as he has been for the last 17 years. The only difference is that he gets to walk the street........

111 posted on 08/19/2011 2:38:09 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (You can't forfeit the game Chuck! If you go home you forfeit!)
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To: jboot
falsified evidence

Would falsifying evidence be more serious than losing evidence that could have implicated another person completely and saved three individuals from 17 years of imprisonment?

112 posted on 08/19/2011 2:42:03 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (You can't forfeit the game Chuck! If you go home you forfeit!)
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To: allmendream

Show me where I said anything like that. I said this is what the prosecution said happened with the blood sample and the jury didn’t buy it.

Nice to know you know the mind of every juror who ever reached a verdict. Man, you must be smart. You should run for president. You could have Biden as your veep.


113 posted on 08/19/2011 3:21:24 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Terry Mross
Go plant some DNA on yourself former cop.

I was hoping to learn the way it was “easy” for a cop to plant DNA evidence.

I go away disappointed.

But damned if I will ever smoke a cigarette around a cop! ;) I know a LEO followed a suspect and picked a discarded butt up off the ground - and they got a saliva match based upon that.

But this was a case - as is most common - where they HAVE DNA - but they don't have a match. They had a suspect - but not enough evidence to subpoena DNA. The court ruled that the suspect had no expectation of privacy regarding his DNA on a improperly discarded cigarette butt.

All unwarranted acrimony aside - I still would like to know how a cop can “easily” plant DNA evidence.

One thing about the OJ blood sample hypothesis is that such samples are preserved in a liquid state via anticoagulants - it would be quite detectable on any subsequent blood spots at a crime scene - if it was tested for.

So even if they had a vial of OJ blood to contaminate the crime scene with - it would itself be ‘contaminated’ with anticoagulants.

114 posted on 08/19/2011 3:30:58 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

Well, smartboy....the blood DID have anticoagulant in it. Apparently you got all your information from Geraldo and Marsha Clark.

And I gave you an example of how it can be done. Now go find a cop whose butt you can kiss.


115 posted on 08/19/2011 3:44:48 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Terry Mross
Wow did you ever buy the B.S. from the defense team!

What EDTH that might have been there, and not a bleedover from bad LCMS, was orders of magnitude lower than in EDTH preserved blood.

There is no way to preserve blood in a liquid state at that low of level of EDTH.

So this is yet another example of how it CAN NOT be done - unless you have a jury of idiots and a good defense team - then you can make it sound plausible to the uninformed.

116 posted on 08/19/2011 4:13:56 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Terry Mross

It definitely is useless talking to a lying hypocrite who goes around saying this conviction was overturned when it definitely WAS NOT.

I can see why such a person would be drummed off the police force but go right out and join the Hollywood buttboys.

C ‘ya!


117 posted on 08/19/2011 4:37:52 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Grunthor

He was just found innocent. How does that make him evil?


118 posted on 08/19/2011 10:15:25 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: DCBryan1

Two of the families came to believe the three did not do it.


119 posted on 08/19/2011 10:17:07 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Terry Mross

Thank you for that post. We have some posting here that seem no better than an old west lynch mob.


120 posted on 08/19/2011 10:23:10 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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