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The Fair Tax (And Why I Support It)
The Band Of Patriots ^ | 8/17/11 | Bryan Thomas

Posted on 08/18/2011 11:21:36 AM PDT by bthockey

For the past couple of weeks, I've been looking into the Fair Tax, a tax law that is picking up a lot of momentum since many GOP candidates, including Herman Cain, support it. For those who don't know what the Fair Tax is, it is essentially a national sales tax of 23%. Even though that might not sound too pleasing, what makes the fair tax so great is that it abolishes all other federal taxes. Income, capital gains, and payroll taxes would all cease to exist.

To bring support to the Fair Tax, which I believe is much better than our current system, I created a list of 4 reasons why you should support the Fair Tax.

(Excerpt) Read more at thebandofpatriots.com ...


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1 posted on 08/18/2011 11:21:41 AM PDT by bthockey
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To: bthockey
if you think for one minute that congress is gonna enact this sales tax and abolish the income tax, you are sadly naive. a flat tax that includes all Americans is more fair, less complicated, and cheaper than this monstrosity.
2 posted on 08/18/2011 11:25:33 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: bthockey
Even though that might not sound too pleasing, what makes the fair tax so great is that it abolishes all other federal taxes.

Except for the ones that it doesn't and the ones that they add later.

3 posted on 08/18/2011 11:27:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Profit" is a measure of how efficiently an entity utilizes the raw materials at its command.)
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To: bthockey

Adding on the state and local sales taxes would make the effective sales tax somewhere between 30 and 40 percent.

There would be huge tax evasion, bartering, underground sales, etc.


4 posted on 08/18/2011 11:29:16 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

what congress will do is exactly what CT did - they found a new pocket to pick (in this case income tax) promised to lower teh sales tax in exchange, but both are higher than ever.
this is merely another pocket to pick. they’re not gonna abolish the income tax, anymore than they’re gonna cut spending.


5 posted on 08/18/2011 11:29:37 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: bthockey

Nice Theory. It will never happen - the tax industry, and the 47% of the population that doesn’t pay taxes will ensure it is DOA.

My personal objection to it is that the voters of this country aren’t smart enough to repeal the 16th Amendment. Otherwise, we will see a sales tax on top of income tax.


6 posted on 08/18/2011 11:31:16 AM PDT by Pecos (Constitutionalist. Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: camle

And if you that Congress will keep the flat tax and make everyone pay the same rate, you are naive. We both know that in the very bill that creates the flat tax there will be goodies for various companies so that they either don’t have to pay it or they will pay a reduced rate. And every year it will get worse and then they will start changing the rates to make it more “fair”.

No, the fair tax will not go into effect until the 16th Amendment is repealed.


7 posted on 08/18/2011 11:31:38 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: bthockey

Much better, but far from perfect.

I’m not sure what one’s consumption level has to do with his requirment for supporting government overhead.

Still, a big positive step away from the tangled, politically-loaded, corrupt mess we are saddled with currently.


8 posted on 08/18/2011 11:31:47 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: bthockey
In the 19th Century, US went from a largely subsistence agricultural economy to a manufacturing powerhouse.

Our government back then lived off excise taxes and imposts.

Prosperity will not return as long as an unrestrained income tax exists.

9 posted on 08/18/2011 11:33:55 AM PDT by Jacquerie
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To: bthockey
There is another FAR more compelling reason to support the FairTax!

F R E E D O M ! ! !

The communist inspired, class warfare inducing, income tax is unworthy of a people that would call themselves free!

10 posted on 08/18/2011 11:36:25 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: camle

This is why the Fair Tax must be a Constitutional Amendment, not just a law. Any real tax reform bill which doesn’t begin with the section “The Sixteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed” is a non-starter.


11 posted on 08/18/2011 11:37:55 AM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: camle

The states gave up their power to appoint senators, white men shared the vote with women, white society eliminated black slavery.

While I would not bet on it, don’t count the FT out.


12 posted on 08/18/2011 11:39:44 AM PDT by Jacquerie
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To: bthockey

Herman Cain has taken a stand. Every Republican Presidential candidate should be required to present his/her policy on tax reform. Anyone who will not pursue a radical change, destroying the IRS and ending use of the tax code to redistribute wealth and coerce citizens, should be eliminated from contention.


13 posted on 08/18/2011 11:41:38 AM PDT by hellbender
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To: bthockey
These points miss the single greatest benefit of the fair tax. Under our current system approxomately 20% of the final sale product of a good or service is the embedded tax burden of the people and businesses that produced it. However, when a product is imported and sold, that 20% goes back to the originating country. Foreign suppliers have a built in 20% price advantage over domestic suppliers. Under the Fair tax, that 20% would be captured at sale and retained in the US.

The US trade balance is roughly $600 Billion per year. The Fair tax would increase tax revenue to the US treasurey by over $100 Billion without increasing the US citizens tax bill one cent.

14 posted on 08/18/2011 11:43:53 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: camle

if you think for one minute that congress is gonna enact this sales tax and abolish the income tax, you are sadly naive. a flat tax that includes all Americans is more fair, less complicated, and cheaper than this monstrosity.

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What you said. And besides. It would require poor people to finally own up to and pay their fair share of the burden that is currently left to “rich white folks”.

And we all know Obama-trons would NEVER support that idea.


15 posted on 08/18/2011 11:45:40 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (The views and opinions expressed in this post are true and correct. Deal with it.)
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To: iowamark

You got a problem with that?


16 posted on 08/18/2011 11:47:13 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: iowamark
Adding on the state and local sales taxes would make the effective sales tax somewhere between 30 and 40 percent. There would be huge tax evasion, bartering, underground sales, etc.

Both statements are patently false and indicate a complete lack of knowledge of the subject!

17 posted on 08/18/2011 11:53:34 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: bthockey

So, you think a 28% sales tax is OK? You think it’s going to do away with our income tax and other taxes we pay to the Federal Government?

I think you have been lead astray by the “smoke and mirrors” placed before you. Stop and think...how about the horrendous Socical Security tax at 8.4% and the medicare tax of 2.9% too? You have to remember that the employers matches the tax on your behalf and the system is designed so that you have no idea that they are. I know, I’m an employer. So if you hear the lie that your Social Security tax is only 4.2% and your medicare is only 1.45%, you have been fooled. It is a full 12.6% based upon your GROSS UNADJUSTED EARNED INCOME!

Now add the wonderful 28% sales tax to the even more ominous and wonderful Social Security taxes and you have a tax rate of 40.6% of your income. THAT’S JUST WONDERFUL! A note to employees: The money your employers hides from you to pay the Social Security taxes is YOURS! Not his! You simply don’t see it due to the “smoke and mirrors” placed before you by the politicians of past.

Until we develop a tax system in which EVERYONE (and I mean EVERYONE) pays the same rate of tax, regardless to income or financial situation...with NO EXEMPTIONS what-so-ever, AND do away with the Social Security taxes, we will never have a workable and fair tax system.

What they don’t want you to know is that a sales tax rate of an estimated 15% would be enough to pay all governmental costs if EVERYONE PAID THEIR TAX AT THE SAME RATE-———Everyone!


18 posted on 08/18/2011 12:02:28 PM PDT by DH ( Rick Perry 2012...Be proud to be an American once again!)
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To: Bigun

I agree and I also like how it smacks everyone in the face with the cost of government largesse with every purchase that they make! I can’t think of a more visible and immediate way to get people on board for reduction in government.


19 posted on 08/18/2011 12:04:35 PM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: camle

It punishes those who saved for their retirement by adding a new high sales tax to income taxes already paid on their savings.


20 posted on 08/18/2011 12:05:07 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: iowamark
There would be huge tax evasion, bartering, underground sales, etc...

Unlike now where all criminal activity is exempt from the Income tax;...

At least with a sale tax the 50% who do not pay any income tax, would also be paying their "fair share".

21 posted on 08/18/2011 12:06:20 PM PDT by BillT (If you can not stand behind our military, you might as well stand in front of them!)
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To: bthockey

Wouldn’t a 23% tax on purchases bite people harder the farther down the economic strata they reside? Seems to me it would be a pittance for the affluent but a big obstacle for people struggling to make ends meet.

It should not applied to food and drugs.


22 posted on 08/18/2011 12:07:51 PM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: camle

The Fair Tax as explicated by Neil Boortz includes one element that is identical to the very worst and biggest single negative of the current iteration of the Income Tax. It takes the “poor” essentially off the tax rolls with the “prebate” and leaves in place a whole class of people who pay no tax and are therefore a ravening constituency for ever greater spending and higher rates. The prebate will also drive low earners off the books and into the drug trade etc just as removing great numbers of people from the necessity of paying the income tax does now.
Better would be a flat 9 or 10% personal income tax with no exceptions, deductions or exemptions accompanied by no cap gains tax and no business taxes.


23 posted on 08/18/2011 12:08:14 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: bthockey

Wow! Cool! Devising a more efficient way to take our money and support/perpetuate the federal monster that is destroying our future and our way of life. Will conservatives never end their schemes to create a better way to rob us? Heaven help us. How about cutting the federal government down to its constitutional size then it really won’t matter how we collect the minimal taxes.


24 posted on 08/18/2011 12:12:05 PM PDT by all the best
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To: DH

YOU need to follow the link below and READ before you further embarrass yourself!

http://www.fairtax.org


25 posted on 08/18/2011 12:14:20 PM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: RoadTest

Not at all! In fact the fairtax is the ONLY proposal that would completely untax the poor!

http://www.fairtax.org


26 posted on 08/18/2011 12:16:06 PM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: bthockey
Wow!!! What a mental giant wrote that blog posting.

He starts out: "I created a list of 4 reasons why you should support the Fair Tax." Then he proceeds with: "1. Taxed At The Point Of Consumption … 2. Cash Paid Occupations Won't Be Neglected … 3. No More IRS … 4. Monthly Prebate System … 5. The Fair Tax Is Revenue Neutral."

Somewhere in there, there might be one good reason to support the FairTax. I doubt there are 4. And he tried for 5 after claiming 4.

Specific rebuttals:

  1. The problem we have today isn't that we're taxed the wrong way. The problem is that we are taxed excessively. Actually, the biggest problem facing Congress today is too much spending. Changing the method of taxation doesn't reduce the tax burden, nor does it reduce spending.
  2. The author obviously hasn't thought this through. Does he believe that purchasers of illegal drugs and services from prostitutes, who currently don't file 1099's for the money they spend on these purchase from individuals, will begin to insist that their hookers and drug sources provide proper receipts, in compliance with Section 509 of the FairTax Act. And obviously, prostitutes and drug dealers who currently don't file yearly or quarterly income tax paperwork for their earnings will be excited to file the proper monthly reports with their state to properly remit the fair tax on their taxable sales. I live in the real world, where all black market transactions go untaxed by all taxation systems. The FairTax will never change that reality.
  3. Since the FairTax bill doesn't start with the repeal of the 16th amendment, it just promises that some future Congress will allow the FairTax to sunset if that amendment isn't repealed, the IRS won't be gone for long. A simple majority vote from both houses of congress plus a signature from a president will bring back the good old IRS, along with the progressive income tax system. Count on that.
  4. I believe that having anyone expecting a monthly check from the government for no particular reason is a very bad idea. Having everyone expecting a monthly prebate check from the government is an even worse idea. There will be "means testing" and various other social meddling inserted into this process, and it will be a perfect way for progressives to pay off their constituencies from the public treasury. This will become orders of magnitude worse than the current "refundable tax credit" system.
  5. Since we are taxed excessively now, "Revenue neutral" just means that we will continue to be taxed excessively in the future. Also, since, theoretically everything the government buys will be reduced in price (due to there being no more "embedded taxes" and "compliance costs"), a government which collects the same revenue will be enabled to be something like 30% larger if the budgets aren't cut.
Having said all that, a national sales tax is inevitable. It doesn't happen today because conservatives don't like it because it's a nearly limitless supply of funds to enlarge the government, and liberals don't like it because it's regressive and taxes the poor more than the rich. When conservatives figure out that it's regressive, and when liberals figure out it's a nearly limitless supply of cash for their programs, a national sales tax of some kind (VAT or consumption tax) will be a done deal. That might happen with the "SuperCommittee," or sometime soon.
27 posted on 08/18/2011 12:23:22 PM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: bthockey

BTT for later read


28 posted on 08/18/2011 12:28:49 PM PDT by SES1066 (1776 to 2011, 235 years and counting in the GRAND EXPERIMENT!)
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To: Bigun
Bigun wrote:
Not at all! In fact the fairtax is the ONLY proposal that would completely untax the poor!
You say that like it's a good thing. Progressives and Socialists love that idea. Creating an untaxed, dependent class which survives on their monthly fix of "gubmint checks." The FairTax will add to that.
29 posted on 08/18/2011 12:31:21 PM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: BillT
There would be huge tax evasion, bartering, underground sales, etc...

Unlike now where all criminal activity is exempt from the Income tax;...

At least with a sale tax the 50% who do not pay any income tax, would also be paying their “fair share”.


1) So we will make the entire American population into either tax-paying chumps or tax-evading criminals. Sweet. Actually everybody will be criminals, the corruption of the black market will seduce everybody sooner or later. The only question will be: How much do you cheat? That's all? You pansy!

2) You don't understand the Fair Tax proposal. The people who don't pay their fair share will be sent quarterly checks as refunds of the Fair Tax they theoretically do pay. Note the word theoretically. Of course that is only if the Fair Tax proposal is actually passed and never amended. No chance of that - Congress will screw with the original law (count on it) before it is ever passed and over time will add to the quarterly refund checks and turn them into an another Government Free Giveaway. We need so many more of those.

30 posted on 08/18/2011 12:42:44 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Blade Runner was set in 2019. Except for the flying cars and replicants we're right on schedule.)
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To: camle

if you think for one minute that congress is gonna enact this sales tax and abolish the income tax, you are sadly naive. a flat tax that includes all Americans is more fair, less complicated, and cheaper than this monstrosity.

And if you believe a flat income tax will ever or can ever remain *flat* where politicians are involved, you are even more "sadly naive" than you accuse us the FairTax crowd of being. A Flat Tax has the same odds of being passed as the Fair Tax, and few of the same benefits.


31 posted on 08/18/2011 12:44:17 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Except for the ones that it doesn't and the ones that they add later.

We have that same concern today with the tax code as it is. Even with the income tax we face today, the government is considering the addition of a VAT (value added tax) on top of it. Implementing or not implementing the Fair Tax does not add or remove the concern you express. We are already under that thumb.


32 posted on 08/18/2011 12:47:03 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: DH

The Fair Tax does away with the payroll tax and the IRS. It also includes a monthly “pre-bate” up to the poverty line to keep it from being oppressive to the poor.

The Fair Tax does not do away with State and local taxes. But remember that the Fair Tax is only on things you purchase not on every dime you make. It is also only on new items. If you want to avoid the tax on an auto then buy a 1 year old car and you pay no tax. Same deal on a home or anything else. This is not a VAT tax. Items are only taxed one time when they are sold new.

The general premise of the Fair Tax is that since Companies currently embed about 22% into their product prices to cover taxes they will through competition lower the prices of products about that much shortly after the Fair Tax goes into effect so in the end prices will come down and with the tax you will end up not paying much more than you do right now.


33 posted on 08/18/2011 12:50:17 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: cc2k
he tried for 5 after claiming 4.
About Bryan Thomas:

Bryan is a senior at Mars Area High School in Mars, PA.

Nuff said.
34 posted on 08/18/2011 12:50:36 PM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: iowamark
Adding on the state and local sales taxes would make the effective sales tax somewhere between 30 and 40 percent. There would be huge tax evasion, bartering, underground sales, etc.

The current Fair Tax rate is calculated to *replace* the effect of the current income tax rate. That is to say, we are already paying the Fair Tax rate today. But because it is hidden in payroll taxes and costs of goods sold, we aren't aware of that -- we aren't aware of the true level of our taxation.

Because it is hidden from us, we as citizens aren't up in arms (as much as we all should be) about the excesses of government. That's why the government tends to want to keep the hidden income tax code -- and why We the People should insist on exposing it for the nation to see in the form of a sales tax.


35 posted on 08/18/2011 12:51:34 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real
Implementing or not implementing the Fair Tax does not add or remove the concern you express.

It gives them another pocket to pick.

They'll wind up with the income tax AND a national sales tax.

With exemptions for Democrat voters, of course.

36 posted on 08/18/2011 12:53:52 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Profit" is a measure of how efficiently an entity utilizes the raw materials at its command.)
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To: bthockey
For those who don't know what the Fair Tax is, it is essentially a national sales tax of 23%.
Hate to be the one to tell you Bryan but you're being lied to.

Actually Bryan the sales tax would have to be 30%.

The 23% rate is what the business collecting the tax pays. IOW Bryan, the business makes a $100 sale, charges you 30% tax, making the "gross payment" $130.00

The business would be required by law to remit "23% of the gross payments" to the greedy Nazi tax collectors...Sooo, 23% of $130.00 is $30.00 making the net to his/her business $100.00

See how easy it is to be misinformed and lied to when it comes to government and so called "fairtaxes" Bryan?

37 posted on 08/18/2011 1:07:51 PM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: expatpat

It punishes those who saved for their retirement by adding a new high sales tax to income taxes already paid on their savings.

FINALLY a true and valid criticism of the Fair Tax! You are correct. In the years that I've studied the Fair Tax, this is the perhaps the largest legitimate criticism I've uncovered.

There may yet be a way to overcome this short-coming. Perhaps that will come when the bill is brought up for discussion in the Houses.

However, and this will sound very callous of me, this retirement generation at any point in their years of influence could have stood up and said "Enough! We can no longer abide by the theft of future generations." They did not. And we, having replaced them, are loath to revisit their mistake upon the generations that follow us.

I say "Enough!". It is past time to fix the system for the sake of those who follow us. I will happily feel that burn visited upon the decades of my retirement efforts in order to spare the income tax menace from the nation's children and grandchildren.


38 posted on 08/18/2011 1:14:01 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Pecos

My personal objection to it is that the voters of this country aren’t smart enough to repeal the 16th Amendment. Otherwise, we will see a sales tax on top of income tax.

How would you like to be the politician up for re-election if the Fair Tax is passed but the 16th is not repealed? One will give or the other.


39 posted on 08/18/2011 1:17:05 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: camle

Sadly, I don’t think it will pass congress. In an ideal world, I would love to have this as our tax system but I’ll still support it because I think it’s a great idea. A flat tax still isn’t as good as the fair tax for many of the reasons I list. But at least a flat tax could pass congress.


40 posted on 08/18/2011 1:19:42 PM PDT by bthockey
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To: cc2k

It IS a good thing!

It allows people at the bottom the ability to better themselves and break the cycle of poverty as opposed to the current system which tries to lock folks in to their current circumstance!

And don’t be confused! They would always be paying at the retail level. The tax, up to poverty level, is rebated for everyone!


41 posted on 08/18/2011 1:20:57 PM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They'll wind up with the income tax AND a national sales tax.

They are already dipping their toe in the water as they consider adding a VAT on top of the income tax. Whether the Fair Tax is pursued or not, bill not keep them from being greedy. They will do whatever they feel they can get away with. The same thing that has held back the advancement of a VAT on top of the income tax will hold back the advancement of a Fair Tax on top of the income tax -- they know they can't get away with it. Would you like to be up for re-election once that double-dipping goes into effect? Not going to happen.


42 posted on 08/18/2011 1:21:08 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Cheburashka

I agree. I have a real problem with the “prebate” concept conditioning people into getting their monthly government check. And there would have to be a massive government bureaucracy to administer it and keep track of everyone. I think it would be much better to exempt necessities such as food, articles of clothing costing under $50.00 and medicine.

That would cancel out all the whining about the “poor”.

I also like the flat tax concept but what about those who don’t have earned income but plenty of money, like Buffet.


43 posted on 08/18/2011 1:23:08 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: so_real
They are already dipping their toe in the water as they consider adding a VAT on top of the income tax.

The corporate income tax is a VAT, and we have the highest in the world.

Corporations that donate to Democrats, like GE, are exempt, of course.

44 posted on 08/18/2011 1:24:04 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: so_real

"bill" = "will"


45 posted on 08/18/2011 1:24:54 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: bthockey

In the absence of substantial tax and regulatory reform..we’re done for. This is one arm of the solution.


46 posted on 08/18/2011 1:26:29 PM PDT by mo
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To: iowamark

Yes, that is a big issue! we need to do away with a lot of so called entitlements...entitled my butt! Then we can have a national sales tax of maybe 5%? We do already have federal sales taxes on tires, phone bills, gas, etc...don’t really know why we need anymore? The barbarians are running the country. We will defeat them eventually.


47 posted on 08/18/2011 1:30:03 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: lewislynn; bthockey

Currently under the income tax if you make $100,000 and pay $20,000 in tax we say that is a 20% tax rate. If we want an honest comparison that is how we have to look at the sales tax as well. With the Fairtax in place $.23 of every dollar spent on a new good or service would be tax. A 23% rate.

No matter HOW you figure it it remains The exact same amount of money!

http://www.fairtax.org/site/News2?news_iv_ctrl=1541&page=NewsArticle&id=8248


48 posted on 08/18/2011 1:34:17 PM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: bthockey; All

Do you want to be very low-taxed, prosperous, productive citizens in a country that acts as a beacon for individual liberty?

DEFUND socialist collectives, foreign and domestic.


49 posted on 08/18/2011 1:41:40 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The VAT you are talking about is not this VAT :
VAT: New Tax Coming Soon?

All the more reason to push for the Fair Tax and do away with the others as close to *today* as we can.


50 posted on 08/18/2011 1:43:36 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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