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Hubble Deep Space Images
http://deepastronomy.com ^ | Aug. 15,2011 | Deep Astronomy

Posted on 08/15/2011 4:59:08 AM PDT by econjack

This is a video of two deep space experiments using the Hubble space telescope. First, Hubble was pointed to a "dark" spot in space and left to collect data for 10 days to see if anything was there. The second is to use this data and the Red Shift to create a 3D image. The result is presented here. To me, pretty amazing stuff.

http://www.flixxy.com/hubble-ultra-deep-field-3d.htm


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If you have trouble wrapping your head around the concept of infinity and a universe that is expanding "into something", welcome to my world...
1 posted on 08/15/2011 4:59:13 AM PDT by econjack
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To: econjack

The Hubble site itself has zoomable images. http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/1996/01


2 posted on 08/15/2011 5:04:54 AM PDT by djf (One of the few FReepers who NEVER clicked the "dead weasel" thread!! But may not last much longer...)
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To: djf

Ever since taking college level physics and learning the time travel is impossible and traveling at the speed of light is impossible(infinite mass thing) I lost interest in the cosmos. Even if something ( a space ship) could travel at the speed of light if it ever collided with the smallest speck of dust it would explode. It just ain’t happening. The human species will always remain here, stuck on the third rock from the sun. Forget about it.


3 posted on 08/15/2011 5:09:36 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: econjack

It wasn’t till the 1930s that we found that the universe consisted of more than just our galaxy. Its entirely possible that we’ll one day find that our universe is one of many that are part of something more.


4 posted on 08/15/2011 5:10:11 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: econjack; melsec
Awesome,in every sense of the word! Thanks for posting.

"The heavens declare the glory of God"

Gotta watch this mic!

5 posted on 08/15/2011 5:11:07 AM PDT by mitch5501 (My guitar wants to kill your momma!)
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To: central_va

You’re talking about mass moving through time and space.

Gotta think outside the box.

Somehow - SOMEHOW! - time is an illusion. Everything and everyplace that ever existed or will exist is here right now at our fingertips.


6 posted on 08/15/2011 5:14:55 AM PDT by djf (One of the few FReepers who NEVER clicked the "dead weasel" thread!! But may not last much longer...)
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To: central_va
"The human species will always remain here, stuck on the third rock from the sun. Forget about it."

Not likely.I know eye has not seen nor ear heard those things that God has in store for those who love Him but I can't help looking at images like those and thinking...one day.

7 posted on 08/15/2011 5:15:25 AM PDT by mitch5501 (My guitar wants to kill your momma!)
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To: central_va

Then please explain how heroes like Shirley Maclaine and other Hollywood stars make it back and forth between Earth and Gorlon? Wouldja?


8 posted on 08/15/2011 5:18:17 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Freeper football "Free Men or Lickspittle". Ask me how and why!)
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To: djf

I agree that it will need to be another way. Faster than light speed even if possible would be useless due to the fact that it would be a one way trip because of relativity.


9 posted on 08/15/2011 5:19:48 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: mitch5501
Give it up. The laws of physics says we ain't going anywhere. Besides mathematically we are alone in the universe. Read the Fermi Paradox.
10 posted on 08/15/2011 5:20:23 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: econjack

Hey! This can’t be! The Left says there Ain’t NO GOD! This all happened from a BIG Bang from Nothing! And that every beautiful living creation just evolved from nothing! BullCrap!


11 posted on 08/15/2011 5:26:39 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: cripplecreek

When I read and understood Bells theorem, that stuned me.

It’s not just the non-locality of space that’s the result. It also applies to non-locality of time.

You could wake up, go out to get the paper and have a pterodactyl on you front porch.

It’s not likely. But it is possible.


12 posted on 08/15/2011 5:27:14 AM PDT by djf (One of the few FReepers who NEVER clicked the "dead weasel" thread!! But may not last much longer...)
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To: econjack
Makes the creator a whole heap larger than those "born againers" would have us believe.

I'm all for "big".... REALLY REALLY B I G !!!

13 posted on 08/15/2011 5:27:14 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (The stain must be REMOVED (ERADICATED)....NOW!!)
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To: central_va

I have degrees in Physics and Mathematics and I’m here to tell you that you didn’t learn enough. Time and space can be bent (any gravity well). Worm holes are nearly a mathematical certainty. You don’t have to travel faster than the speed of light to travel light years in short time spans.


14 posted on 08/15/2011 5:28:04 AM PDT by numberonepal (Palin/Cain 2012)
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To: central_va

you are assuming we know all there is to know about space travel?

What if Bob Lazaar was right (I am only half joking about that) about a gravity propulsion drive?

You point it where you want to go and create a wormhole that takes you there immediately


15 posted on 08/15/2011 5:28:32 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: InvisibleChurch

“Mind travel”....imagination explosions. It’s all in their brain....while asleep...they never leave the ground at all. But they imagine they do.

Imagine if all our dreams and imaginations of our minds we spread as reality.


16 posted on 08/15/2011 5:30:23 AM PDT by caww
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To: mitch5501

I’m having trouble with the whole big bang thing with this. Why for instance, if the bang went off 13 billion years ago, can you not see the edge of the universe at about 7 billion light years out? How did these galaxys get so far out after only 1/2 billion years?
On the other hand, is this now enough matter to support the bang?
I think we are looking at creation, not science.


17 posted on 08/15/2011 5:31:01 AM PDT by cb
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To: cripplecreek

It still boggles my mind that all of this began as a Singularity...a single, dimensionless point in time and space...and expanded into what we see today. Given that we know the universe is still expanding, what’s it expanding into? I’m not smart enough to understand this.


18 posted on 08/15/2011 5:31:13 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are dumber than soup.)
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To: econjack

Amen....INFINITY!! God is INFINITE!


19 posted on 08/15/2011 5:33:07 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Mr. K
Everything that has mass, you included, cannot travel at the speed of light. There are people who believe in faulty physics and that one day inter stellar travel will be possible. The constraints of the human condition will not allow that. SOme can't accept that.

The alchemist has a better chance of reaching his goals.

20 posted on 08/15/2011 5:34:18 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
"Give it up. The laws of physics says we ain't going anywhere..."

Pish posh.I'm sure the Author of those laws will have something to say in that regard.

21 posted on 08/15/2011 5:35:08 AM PDT by mitch5501 (My guitar wants to kill your momma!)
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To: cb

Easiest if you look at it this way.

The big bang didn’t “happen”.

The big bang is still happening.


22 posted on 08/15/2011 5:36:39 AM PDT by djf (One of the few FReepers who NEVER clicked the "dead weasel" thread!! But may not last much longer...)
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To: econjack

The big bang, despite its acceptance is still just a theory. My biggest problems with it are the fact that science has removed certain physical properties to explain its earliest seconds.


23 posted on 08/15/2011 5:37:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: numberonepal

If you pursued those disciplines, math and physics, and you harbor the notion inter stellar travel by humans is possible than you are seriously deluded FRiend.


24 posted on 08/15/2011 5:37:51 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: cb
I’m having trouble with the whole big bang thing with this. Why for instance, if the bang went off 13 billion years ago, can you not see the edge of the universe at about 7 billion light years out?

One thing that's often misunderstood is that we can only see so far. We can see to the edge of our own light horizon and no further. That doesn't mean that if someone was at the edge of our light horizon couldn't see just as far beyond what we can see.
25 posted on 08/15/2011 5:41:03 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: caww

That would be horrible. I dreamed last night I was given three forks for dinner but couldn’t decide which one to use for my salad. When I finally made a decision the salad turned to soup and I went hungry.


26 posted on 08/15/2011 5:42:38 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Freeper football "Free Men or Lickspittle". Ask me how and why!)
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To: econjack

>>> If you have trouble wrapping your head around the concept of infinity and a universe that is expanding “into something”

Suppose you lived inside a balloon. As the balloon inflated, how could you imagine what outside space it expands into.


27 posted on 08/15/2011 5:43:28 AM PDT by tlb
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To: central_va

seriously, do you think we know all there is to know about interstellar travel?


28 posted on 08/15/2011 5:43:34 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: central_va

I suggest you go back to the books and read about something called “the tunnel effect”.
It’s instantaneous. Faster than light. Just like Bell’s quantum entanglement.

We don’t know how to produce or control it.

Yet.

If I were you, I’d call that college. They might give you a refund.


29 posted on 08/15/2011 5:45:56 AM PDT by djf (One of the few FReepers who NEVER clicked the "dead weasel" thread!! But may not last much longer...)
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To: djf

Thanks for the awesome new desktop backgrounds!


30 posted on 08/15/2011 5:47:57 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: SunkenCiv

ping-a-ling.


31 posted on 08/15/2011 5:47:57 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way. "Primary" is a VERB.)
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To: cb
"I think we are looking at creation..."

When I look at those images I think of home,I think of the timeless eternity we will spend with the Creator of all that is.I think of the Captain of our salvation leading many sons to glory.To see the creation is to know the Creator.It leaves me in humbled awe at what He has wrought and who He is.

32 posted on 08/15/2011 5:47:57 AM PDT by mitch5501 (My guitar wants to kill your momma!)
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To: central_va

you missed my central question- do you think we know everythign there is to know about internstellar travel.

By all we know right now, yes- you are right. But I dont assume we know everything by a long shot.

FTL travel is impossible, but wormhole travel does not violate FTL.


33 posted on 08/15/2011 5:48:11 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: Mr. K
seriously, do you think we know all there is to know about interstellar travel?

I posted a link to the Fermi Paradox above, try reading it.

34 posted on 08/15/2011 5:48:16 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: djf

We only need to get to say 1/8 the speed of light to put Alpha Centauri within a generation.


35 posted on 08/15/2011 5:49:56 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: cripplecreek

In the next life, travel between worlds will not be at the speed of light. Much too slow. It will be at the speed of THOUGHT.


36 posted on 08/15/2011 5:50:23 AM PDT by Tucker39
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To: djf

You know will not make fun of your beliefs. I’ll stick to science. The universe is a boring, lifeless and violent place that should be of little interest to us humans. But I will not belittle someones hobby.


37 posted on 08/15/2011 5:52:16 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Ever since taking college level physics and learning the time travel is impossible and traveling at the speed of light is impossible...Even if something ( a space ship) could travel at the speed of light if it ever collided with the smallest speck of dust it would explode. It just ain’t happening.

So you're saying we're going to have to rely on the old matter transporter then...or wormholes.

38 posted on 08/15/2011 5:53:04 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: econjack

Bookmarking for when I get home to view on something other than a work connection that blocks all the content on the target site.


39 posted on 08/15/2011 5:54:27 AM PDT by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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To: cripplecreek

I think a big part of the problem is that our early physics is based on 3 dimensional geometry.
But the algebra of higher dimensions is well known, and doesn’t always easily get represented in 3D.

So I say “think outside the box”... maybe I should say “think outside the tesseract”....

;-)


40 posted on 08/15/2011 5:55:59 AM PDT by djf (One of the few FReepers who NEVER clicked the "dead weasel" thread!! But may not last much longer...)
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To: econjack
what’s it expanding into?

Think fireworks.

41 posted on 08/15/2011 5:58:16 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: tlb
Suppose you lived inside a balloon. As the balloon inflated, how could you imagine what outside space it expands into.

That's my problem. There must be "something" into which to expand. So what's it expanding into? If it's expanding into a "void", then the void itself is something. In your analogy, what is the balloon floating in? I'm starting to think it's a parallel universe and we are encroaching into that space.

42 posted on 08/15/2011 6:00:11 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are dumber than soup.)
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To: central_va

You need to do a bit more reading, for example read up on the Alcubierre Drive.


43 posted on 08/15/2011 6:02:23 AM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: 6ppc
You need to do a bit more reading, for example read up on the Alcubierre Drive.

Silliness. People read to much science fiction

44 posted on 08/15/2011 6:04:49 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: econjack

Or...from a Suess-ish viewpoint, we examine atoms - which it is agreed have particles orbiting nucleii. What if our universe constitutes the atoms of an even larger creation. Do I hear a Who?


45 posted on 08/15/2011 6:10:11 AM PDT by Coffee... Black... No Sugar (I'm gonna' BICKER!)
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To: central_va
Ever since taking college level physics and learning the time travel is impossible

I am surprised. You should know that time travel is not impossible. It has been proven. Have you not heard of the time dilation effect? This has been proven as fact in numerous experiments. And it effectively proves that travel into the future is also possible.

I would concede that time travel into the past is impossible. But that's it.

46 posted on 08/15/2011 6:10:34 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Deploy. Dominate. Disappear.)
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To: econjack
I feel very small today.


47 posted on 08/15/2011 6:15:34 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Deploy. Dominate. Disappear.)
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To: central_va

For the FOURTH time I ask you- Do you think we know all there is to know about interstellar travel?

The fermi ‘paradox’ is an intellectual exercize- nothing more. For thousands of years we had no ovidence of ‘electrons’ but that did not mean they didnt exist. the same argument applies- there are probably many things we have not yet seen evidence of- but they do exist.

You sound like you read a thing or two and formuilated a rock-solid belief. This is all theory.


48 posted on 08/15/2011 6:19:17 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: Mr. K
FTL [faster than light] travel is impossible

Einstein's theory never actually said things couldn't go faster than light. It said things *with mass* couldn't be accelerated TO the speed of light or slowed down to the speed of light (if the object was somehow already traveling faster than light.), for it would take an infinity amount of energy to do either. Objects without mass (photons, gravity waves/gravitons, tachyons) can travel at light speed.

49 posted on 08/15/2011 6:19:39 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Mr. K

Let us assume the existence of wormholes (or however one wishes to express a negotiable rift in the fabric of space/time). Is it not true that a distant visitation point targeted via visible light might be found to no longer exist upon one’s “arrival”?


50 posted on 08/15/2011 6:20:09 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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