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To: rawhide

Don’t all finance bills have to originate in the House...?


2 posted on 07/29/2011 8:36:01 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: mewzilla
They'll just take a finance bill the House has already passed, delete the entire text and add what they are working on now - just like they did with Obamacare.
4 posted on 07/29/2011 8:37:45 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The Repubs and Dems are arguing whether to pour 9 or 10 buckets of gasoline on a burning house.)
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To: mewzilla

Have to? No, but supposed to.


7 posted on 07/29/2011 8:38:17 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I will only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: mewzilla
Don’t all finance bills have to originate in the House...?

I am thinking the same. But RATS are involved, so rules do not matter.

10 posted on 07/29/2011 8:39:07 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: mewzilla

That was back when we had a Constitutional Government.

They all just do pretty much what they like today.


13 posted on 07/29/2011 8:39:24 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: mewzilla
Don’t all finance bills have to originate in the House...?

The answer I find is "All revenue bills must originate in the House of Representatives".

So the key is that when Reid said he’s bringing a bill to raise the U.S. debt ceiling and cut the deficit, THERE MUST BE NO REVENUE IN THE BILL!!!!

18 posted on 07/29/2011 8:41:52 AM PDT by Lockbox (`)
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YES

here is the current whip count on the Boehner proposal. The undecided Reps. are as follows: Ted Poe, TX (202-225-6565); Michael Turner, OH (202-225-6465); Bill Posey, FL (202-225-3671); Jack Kingston, GA (202-225-5831); Quico Canseco, TX (202-225-4511); Scott DesJarlais, TN (202-225-6831); Morgan Griffith, VA (202-225-3861); Scott Garrett, NJ (202-225-4465); Jeff Flake, AZ (202-225-2635)


19 posted on 07/29/2011 8:42:07 AM PDT by GailA (Any congress critter who fails to keep faith with the Military, will NOT keep faith with YOU!)
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To: mewzilla
Don’t all finance bills have to originate in the House...?

No. Only bills that raise taxes or appropriate money have to originate in the House. These bills purport to cut existing appropriations.

You don't have to believe me - just look at the bill number for Boehner's plan - it is Senate Bill 627. They took a bill that had already been passed by the Senate and amended it to contain the language of the Boehner plan. So the Boehner bill does not "originate" in the House.

Of course, if Reid wanted to pass a bill that contained new spending or raise taxes, he could do something similar - "gut and amend" a bill that originated in the House.

31 posted on 07/29/2011 8:49:19 AM PDT by CA Conservative
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To: mewzilla
"Don’t all finance bills have to originate in the House...?"

That's what I understood. The Senate and Executive Branch can submit proposals, but I thought the actual funding bills had to start in the House.

53 posted on 07/29/2011 9:05:18 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever.)
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Don’t all finance bills have to originate in the House...?

The Constitution is so passé. Besides, the Obamacare bill originated in the Senate.

90 posted on 07/29/2011 12:02:27 PM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: mewzilla
"Don’t all finance bills have to originate in the House...?

They do the artful dodger "deeming" trick, where the Senate "Deems it" to have already passed the House, then after the House passes, the conference committee comes and the House "gives up" its right to first passage and bingo!

100 posted on 07/29/2011 2:51:29 PM PDT by cookcounty (Nullius in Verba. "Take no man's word for it.")
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To: mewzilla
Art. I, Section 7: All bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House...
113 posted on 07/30/2011 7:40:51 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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