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Sheriff's Deputy Kills Former NFL Player Outside a Convenience Store
Reason.com ^ | July 12, 2011 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 07/14/2011 8:46:12 PM PDT by yup2394871293

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To: yup2394871293

Red Meat for the animals. ;-)


81 posted on 07/15/2011 6:50:02 AM PDT by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: rlmorel

No, they looked like regular cans, but twice as tall, and they said “Tall Boy”. I think the malt liquor came out a year or three later. Look out for the Bull!


82 posted on 07/15/2011 8:14:17 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

LOL...I think The Bull just erased most of those memories...


83 posted on 07/15/2011 9:20:41 AM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one doesn't need 'marching orders' to reach the same destination")
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To: hfr

Have you ever served in the military? Just asking, because I don’t think most military would blindly obey orders to mistreat American civilians unless they were being attacked. I just don’t see it.


84 posted on 07/15/2011 9:23:52 AM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one doesn't need 'marching orders' to reach the same destination")
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To: heights

Sorry if I offended you. Everything I mentioned has occurred already. The cops are not on our side. Far too many (most, these days) view the public as the enemy, and they behave that way. Perhaps you can demonstrate that none of my statements have occurred? If so, have at it.


85 posted on 07/15/2011 9:40:37 AM PDT by LifePath
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To: Cboldt

I haven’t come to a conclusion on the facts of this case. I merely posited that anyone with a drinking problem who has his license suspended and then is arrogant enough to drive anyway, is not beyond striking a cop or anyone he sees as impeding his doing what he wants to do.

The whole family sounds like self-anointed ‘victims.’


86 posted on 07/15/2011 11:58:54 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA
-- I merely posited that anyone with a drinking problem who has his license suspended and then is arrogant enough to drive anyway, is not beyond striking a cop or anyone he sees as impeding his doing what he wants to do. --

I think that was the very point that I disagreed with. Without more evidence than what you posit here (setting aside this particular incident), I would NOT find a person more, or less likely to strike a cop.

Do you think that people with domestic violence convictions are likely to be murderers who should be denied the right to possess a firearm?

Same sort of idea here. Drink driving, driving on suspended license, are of a different character compared with assault and battery on a police officer.

-- The whole family sounds like self-anointed 'victims.' --

FWIW, the kids may see the father (and themselves) as a victim not by self-anointment, but by a trigger-happy cop.

87 posted on 07/15/2011 12:10:47 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Who cares what happened as long as we get to see the city burn?

Burn, baby, burn!


88 posted on 07/15/2011 12:18:21 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Husker24

Sad isn’t it....


89 posted on 07/15/2011 12:47:00 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (If you voted for Obama to prove you are not racist, vote against him to prove you are not an idiot.)
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To: Cboldt

“Do you think that people with domestic violence convictions are likely to be murderers who should be denied the right to possess a firearm?”

Absolutely!


90 posted on 07/15/2011 1:28:05 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Ken H

Human nature. Race.Circumstances


91 posted on 07/15/2011 10:15:07 PM PDT by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Seems to be a strict news blackout of this incident. One would expect to see several news outlets covering it.


92 posted on 07/16/2011 3:37:48 AM PDT by tommix2
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To: rlmorel
3 years, regular army, not a draftee. I have doubts that most military would question orders to control the civilian population. Sadly I really think that the idea that the rank and file, not to mention the officer corps, would refuse to violate a conservative interpretation of the Constitution is wishful thinking. In any case however the Canadian troops are available by executive order and agreement with Canada.

I would hope that our military wouldn't turn on the nation. But like I said I have serious doubts. As a side thought, whose side would strategic defense be on? Would they be likely to maintain our nuclear deterrent?

93 posted on 07/16/2011 7:39:20 PM PDT by hfr (It's not so much what you did, it's more how you explain what you did.)
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To: sergeantdave
A little overboard don't you think?

No one would give orders to attack mom and pop. The spin would be civil disorder and they're protecting home and loved ones.

The picture of a mindless goose stepping Nazi is ridiculous. Those German soldiers were thoughtful dedicated believers in the greater good of their nation. Deception and error is not the same thing as mindlessness.

We read in the news of many swat team assaults that turn out to be an inappropriate over use of force. There is a us and them mentality involved. That also applies to the military. But none of that makes anybody a mindless goose stepping Nazi. One of the most appalling lessons from WWII is that good people can do terrible things either because they were deceived into believing they were actually doing good things or simply because they were intimidated and their courage failed them.

I don't think people have changed all that much.

94 posted on 07/16/2011 7:52:34 PM PDT by hfr (It's not so much what you did, it's more how you explain what you did.)
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To: piytar

> Further, when videos “disappear,” “didn’t record,” etc., I assume cover-up.

From yesterday: http://www.kval.com/news/125774008.html?m=y&smobile=y&c=n

“A Kern County deputy was justified in fatally shooting a former NFL player at a northeast Bakersfield convenience store, according to a sheriff’s office incident review board that released its findings Monday.
The sheriff’s office also released surveillance video from that night, although the camera didn’t capture the shooting. Sheriff Donny Youngblood said the store’s camera is motion-detecting, and that caused it somehow to turn off during the incident.”
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The gap in the video is frustrating to Youngblood. Asked if any other cameras could have captured the incident, the sheriff said none that they are aware of.
He also said the video was not changed in any way by his department except to “enhance the lighting” to make things more visible.
“You think I don’t realize by releasing this video where the camera shut itself off, (it’s a problem)? I totally understand it,” Youngblood said. “But it is what it is, and I’m as transparent as I can possibly be within the law.”

Yes, it is amazing how store security cameras always manage to turn themselves off seconds before the police start shooting.


95 posted on 07/19/2011 4:33:38 AM PDT by Mr170IQ
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