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Casey Anthony Case May Not be Over - New Charges Possible

Posted on 07/13/2011 7:10:03 AM PDT by MindBender26

We all know it's not over until the fat lady sings, and here in Orlando we hear the fat lady in the form of the Orange County Sheriff's Office may only be getting warmed up.

Contacts at the Sheriff's Office say they are actively investigating the possibility that at least one witness was tampered with, and now the Sheriff has confirmed this. The talk at breakfast this morning with some retired senior LEOs was that the most probable targets were either "River Cruz", the woman who undermined George Anthony's testimony by claiming she had an affair with him, or the son of meter reader Roy Kronk who found the body. The son gave testimony claiming his father was "only in it for the money." The defense spun that out that out to Kronk had lied, moved the body, etc.

Of course at this time, none of this is proven, but we do know it is being actively worked. Local LEOs still very strongly suspect that Casey killed her daughter, either through an active act of premeditated murder, or anger. A third possibility also exists that if she did not intend the child to die, Casey is at the least guilty of criminally negligent neglect or acts so outrageous (such as an intentional chloroforming that went bad) that she should have been convicted, at a minimum, for aggravated manslaughter.

It's a long shot, but if it can be shown that someone connected with Casey and/or her defense did bribe or otherwise improperly influence a witness, the case could be reopened. Although she was acquitted in state court, double jeopardy does not attach if she would be accused of depriving her daughter of her civil rights in the federal court system. That's what happened in the Rodney King case. The cops were acquitted of assault and related charges in the California state court (isn't everyone,) but then convicted in the federal courts of depriving King of the civil rights.

An even more interesting concept might be the state's possible ability to retry Casey on murder/manslaughter charges. Although it is rarely invoked, there is a concept under the law that Casey Anthony is certainly entitled to a fair trial, but so are the People of the State of Florida. If it can be shown that the People of the State of Florida did not get a fair trial due to bribed witnesses or the like, there are operations of law that would allow Ms. Anthony be retried. It would be rare and the misconduct by the defense would certainly have to be egregious, but it is a possibility. With the anger now circulating in the local law enforcement community, it is certainly not an impossibility.

History is shown there is probably only about a 10% chance that anything in this will ever pan out, but it is certainly something that a number of newsies are watching very closely. We'll let you know when we hear more


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1 posted on 07/13/2011 7:10:05 AM PDT by MindBender26
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To: MindBender26

Longshot, but this psycho should have to really get a fair trial. One where the prosecution actually gets to present the whole case.

Maybe Casey can hook up with Joran VanDerSlut when she gets out Sunday.


2 posted on 07/13/2011 7:14:03 AM PDT by dforest
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To: MindBender26

It’ll NEVER happen. Ridiculous to even talk about it.


3 posted on 07/13/2011 7:14:18 AM PDT by mn-bush-man
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To: mn-bush-man

Ask the California cops.


4 posted on 07/13/2011 7:17:07 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Forget AMEX. Remember your Glock 27: Never Leave Home Without It!)
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To: mn-bush-man

Maybe. But nice to think about.

But I do think it’s not over for Casey Anthony by a long shot. I hope a slew of civil lawsuits are thrown at this stupid, ugly witch so she’s tied down for the rest of her life like a shrunken Gulliver.


5 posted on 07/13/2011 7:20:19 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Casey Anthony is guilty as hell)
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To: MindBender26

On the tube today, I saw some of the volunteers who had searched at length for the “missing” girl, while all of that time Casey knew that Caylee was not missing, but was, in fact, deceased. Would they have a civil case against her?


6 posted on 07/13/2011 7:21:41 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (If you think Obama is bad now, just wait until he doesn't have to worry about getting re-elected.)
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To: MindBender26

I did’nt pay attention to this media extravaganza the first time around & I will not watch it this time either. The press will use this tragedy until there is not an ounce of blood left. What a waste of air time.
That being said we pray for the innocent child.


7 posted on 07/13/2011 7:21:50 AM PDT by certrtwngnut
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To: MindBender26

The media assassination continues ...


8 posted on 07/13/2011 7:22:40 AM PDT by j.argese (You may think you've won the day, in the end you will surely lose the important race.)
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To: MindBender26

Why not put energy into the donald young killing, obama’s lover.


9 posted on 07/13/2011 7:22:42 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: indylindy

Oh yea, now there’s a pair.

They could name their son Damien.


10 posted on 07/13/2011 7:23:30 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: biggredd1

Not an Orange County matter.


11 posted on 07/13/2011 7:24:07 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Forget AMEX. Remember your Glock 27: Never Leave Home Without It!)
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To: j.argese

The media has nothing to do with it.


12 posted on 07/13/2011 7:24:44 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Forget AMEX. Remember your Glock 27: Never Leave Home Without It!)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
...while all of that time Casey knew that Caylee was not missing, but was, in fact, deceased.

Proving that would be very difficult in court......

13 posted on 07/13/2011 7:25:04 AM PDT by Red Badger (Casey Anthony: "Surprise, surprise."...............)
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To: indylindy
She received a fair trial. The prosecutors used every bit of evidence they had, they even had a ‘sniffer machine’ whatever that is. They simply could not prove their case.

What would Anthony have used to entice a witness? She is broke, her lawyer received less than $100K for the entire case, and she is universally loathed.

The state had a complete full court press of media and an unlimited budget and still couldn't tie her to the death, they couldn't even show a cause of death.

Casey Anthony probably killed her daughter or at least was involved, however we do not convict on probably. She was judged Not Guilty by a jury of her peers. Not Guilty is not the same as proved innocent. Our system worked precisely how it is supposed to work.

14 posted on 07/13/2011 7:31:56 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: MindBender26

Very interesting.

15 posted on 07/13/2011 7:33:59 AM PDT by McGruff (Why do they fear her so?)
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To: McGruff

LOL...I was thinking the same thing.


16 posted on 07/13/2011 7:35:55 AM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: Jim from C-Town
They simply could not prove their case.

That is your assumption. Mine, is that the jury had a collective IQ that was the equivalent of a box of rocks.
17 posted on 07/13/2011 7:36:41 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: miss marmelstein

Who is going to sue her, who can show cause to file suit?


18 posted on 07/13/2011 7:37:12 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: McGruff
The founder of Aqua Search just issued a civil law suit on K. Anthony for expenses incured during their search for the child.

He is heartsick because he denied other families searching for their family members to help in this search.

19 posted on 07/13/2011 7:37:52 AM PDT by mware
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

what wuld they sue her for? they have no cause.


20 posted on 07/13/2011 7:38:18 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: MindBender26

this is why we have double jeopardy.

the jury spoke, then end.


21 posted on 07/13/2011 7:40:21 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Yes!


22 posted on 07/13/2011 7:44:15 AM PDT by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: ZX12R

I agree. The jury actually thought they were smart. They don’t realize they were as dumb as a bucket of rocks. I’d be embaressed if I were them.


23 posted on 07/13/2011 7:47:03 AM PDT by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: MindBender26
(ugh)

Let it go please.


24 posted on 07/13/2011 7:47:22 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Proud ticket holder: "The Undefeated")
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To: longtermmemmory
Actually, double jeopardy is not nearly as absolute as laymen think.

It only applies to one sovereign at a time. If tried by a state, the feds can also try you if there is a separate chargeable federal case, such as in King.

Also, in the case of fraud, such as witness tampering, verdicts can be vacated.

25 posted on 07/13/2011 7:47:22 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Forget AMEX. Remember your Glock 27: Never Leave Home Without It!)
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To: MindBender26
Although she was acquitted in state court, double jeopardy does not attach if she would be accused of depriving her daughter of her civil rights in the federal court system. That's what happened in the Rodney King case. The cops were acquitted of assault and related charges in the California state court (isn't everyone,) but then convicted in the federal courts of depriving King of the civil rights.

That federal charge involved police depriving King of his civil rights as they were acting under color of law--that is in their role as law enforcement. There is no general federal civil rights criminal law applying in the Anthony case permitting a federal prosecution, at least in the absence of some police or other official involvement or some conspiracy (two or more persons acting in concert where the old federal anti-KKK laws can be invoked).

Jack

26 posted on 07/13/2011 7:47:43 AM PDT by JackOfVA
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To: ZX12R
‘That is your assumption. Mine, is that the jury had a collective IQ that was the equivalent of a box of rocks’

I didn't assume anything, the jury said they didn't prove their case. That is the way our system works and has worked for almost 250 years. Your opinion on the matter is worthless. You where not on the jury. The jury followed the law and the instructions to the tee and they where Death Penalty Qualified, meaning they where willing, if the crime was proved, to impose the penalty of state sponsored killing.

The fact is that the state couldn't prove it's case.

For better or worse, the jury was just as smart or as stupid as any randomly chosen group of voters.

27 posted on 07/13/2011 7:49:19 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: MindBender26

Can I have some bread to go with my circus?


28 posted on 07/13/2011 7:49:54 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Tim Miller of Equusearch just filed suit against Casey Anthony yesterday. He spent over 100,000 on resources searching for Caylee Anthony. Casey admitted by her lawyers in court she knew her daughter was dead when the searches for her daughter had begun. Several thousands if money, peoples time, and resources were used. Tim Miller didn’t have to help and he didn’t deserve being lied to and used. He has plently of cause to sue and now has!!


29 posted on 07/13/2011 7:51:28 AM PDT by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: ZX12R
the jury had a collective IQ that was the equivalent of a box of rocks.

Surely then it was a jury of her peers...

'spose we should have an IQ test for jury pools now. I'm afraid after the IQ test, the lawyers DQ'ing potential jurors, and folks not being able to get the time off work, we will be left with nobody on the juries.
30 posted on 07/13/2011 7:53:11 AM PDT by copaliscrossing (Progressives are Socialists)
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To: MindBender26
There is no Federal Crime to prosecute. Murder and all lessor included offenses are state crimes.
31 posted on 07/13/2011 7:53:23 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: MindBender26

I agree and I will add ms.Anthony lied to the FBI when questioned by them about her daughter missing. That is enough cause to have federal charges brought against her.


32 posted on 07/13/2011 7:54:38 AM PDT by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: MindBender26

Lynch mob mentality - I am ashamed to be associated with some on this forum.

There is a reason the founding fathers forbid double jeopardy.

I often wondered how anyone could become part of a lynch mob, and I am viewing the process here, on Free Republic, home of conservatives, protectors of our Constitution willing to throw it all over because they disagree with the jury’s verdict.

Shame on all of you that are out for blood. We are still a nation of laws, and sometimes we may not agree with the results but once we go down the path of vengeance we lose the high ground, we become no different then the liberals for whom anything can be justified if we get our way.

I am also amazed on how many can not tell the difference between what was presented in court and what was presented on the TV talk shows. I know you think you know what happened but that is not the same as it really happening.

Spare me the attack on those such as myself who are willing to defend the system, at this point in time, you will be ignored, angry mobs can not be reasoned with, and I am not going to try.

I still prefer to live in a nation where it is a jury that decides my fate rather than an angry lynch mob.


33 posted on 07/13/2011 7:55:20 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (California does not have a money problem, it has a spending problem.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

One thing I am certain of. Those two could get the best seat in the house wherever they went.

Everyone would get up and leave. LOL


34 posted on 07/13/2011 7:55:47 AM PDT by dforest
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To: indylindy

Yep, but would Jose Baez be her atty?


35 posted on 07/13/2011 7:56:27 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: ZX12R

It’s appalling that Casey’s pool drowning story was brought up the night before the trial began, though the story circulated as gossip from somewhere and had early on led her mother to informed Casey of it in the jail video back in 2008 or ‘09. The look on Casey’s face and her own reaction to the rumor was as if to pure fiction. Then she turns around and uses it at the last minute, according to HLN. Sadly it caught on and gave legs to undermining George and exposing him to weakness with that what’s her name.

That Casey got a pass is debatable. Wouldn’t she rather be safe in jail than fearing for her very life every breathing moment of the day and night, estranged from family and friends and any connection to human kindness, but on the run, in hiding and disguised. It will be some island country or Mexico for her. Maybe Aruba.


36 posted on 07/13/2011 7:58:22 AM PDT by RitaOK (We hang together or will hang separately. 2012, or bust)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Oh pleeeeeezzzzz.


37 posted on 07/13/2011 7:58:43 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: ZX12R
That is your assumption. Mine, is that the jury had a collective IQ that was the equivalent of a box of rocks.

Well said.

I would have voted first degree murder in a heartbeat. No mother behaves as Casey did after the accidental death of her child.

38 posted on 07/13/2011 7:58:43 AM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: freekitty

I doubt it. He is probably scared of her too. He knows she is a murderer. I wonder why they called that competency haering before the end of the trial?


39 posted on 07/13/2011 7:59:12 AM PDT by dforest
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To: JackOfVA

It was just announced on TV Rodney King has been arrested again.


40 posted on 07/13/2011 8:00:14 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: indylindy

Usually the same lawyers don’t try civil and criminal.


41 posted on 07/13/2011 8:01:31 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Jim from C-Town
I didn't assume anything, the jury said they didn't prove their case.

Then you are simply unable to understand the word "assumption", because their are other possibilities. It's possible that the jury was tampered with, or bought, for instance, or my favorite, STOOPID IDIOTS.

It is a fact that the jury gave a verdict, but it is not a fact that the state didn't prove it's case. That's a matter of opinion or assumption.
42 posted on 07/13/2011 8:04:37 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: Jim from C-Town

Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241, Conspiracy Against Rights

This gets me an indictment, at least. It does NOT require operation under the color of law.

“This statute makes it unlawful for two or more persons to conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person of any state, territory or district in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him/her by the Constitution or the laws of the United States, (or because of his/her having exercised the same).

It further makes it unlawful for two or more persons to go in disguise on the highway or on the premises of another with the intent to prevent or hinder his/her free exercise or enjoyment of any rights so secured.

Punishment varies from a fine or imprisonment of up to ten years, or both; and if death results, or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years, or for life, or may be sentenced to death.”


43 posted on 07/13/2011 8:08:07 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Forget AMEX. Remember your Glock 27: Never Leave Home Without It!)
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To: Halls
He will lose. If he wins he will never recover. In all reality he should save his money on the legal fees.

He VOLUNTEERED to lead searches. He can not now, regardless of reasoning, expect to be paid for voluntary services.

Understand. I think she did it. She probably was at least involved in her child's death, if not directly responsible for the death. That being said, any additional action against her smacks of harassment and those involved are playing a very dangerous game considering that they have a great deal more to lose than Casey Anthony.

She is broke, with very few prospects. It might be speculated that she will be getting her own reality show or book deal, but that is not as likely as people think. She is universally loathed, not hated, loathed, selling anything associated with her would be risky at best. Remember O.J. tried to peddle a book as well and never made a dime off it.

44 posted on 07/13/2011 8:08:35 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

That’s all fine, unless someone was paid or otherwise influenced to lie to that jury.


45 posted on 07/13/2011 8:11:01 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Forget AMEX. Remember your Glock 27: Never Leave Home Without It!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

I disagree. I don’t think Tim Miller makes legal decisions like this without feeling confident he will win his suit against Ms. Anthony.


46 posted on 07/13/2011 8:11:26 AM PDT by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: MindBender26

I just want this crap off my TV so they can start talking about real issues instead. This case has no real meaning, other than “another dead cute white girl”


47 posted on 07/13/2011 8:12:09 AM PDT by Randian Randy
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To: freespirited

I watched the entire trial. No brained 1st degree murder! That jury was pathetic!


48 posted on 07/13/2011 8:14:57 AM PDT by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: Halls
She was already convicted of lying to the authorities. As a matter of fact, they where able to convict on four separate charges based on the same interview.

If they had a case, which they do not, They could get very little time if convicted. Most of these lying offenses are less than a few months. Look at Martha Stewart. She spent five months in prison and five months on house arrest.

49 posted on 07/13/2011 8:18:24 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: JackOfVA

They could charge Ms Anthony for practicing medicine without a license. She performed a retroactive abortion on herself. Ironclad case.


50 posted on 07/13/2011 8:18:50 AM PDT by chittlin (chittlin)
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