Posted on 07/11/2011 6:27:07 PM PDT by socialism_stinX
So the fondest Washington hopes for a grand debt-limit deal have broken down over taxes. House Speaker John Boehner said late Saturday that he couldn't move ahead with a $4 trillion deal because President Obama was insisting on a $1 trillion tax increase, and the White House quickly denounced House Republicans for scuttling debt reduction and preventing "the very wealthiest and special interests from paying their fair share."
How dare Republicans not agree to break their campaign promises and raise taxes when the jobless rate is 9.2% and President Obama's economic recovery is in jeopardy?
We think Mr. Boehner is making the sensible choice. No one wants to reform the tax code more than we do, but passing a $1 trillion tax increase first on the promise of tax reform later is a political trap. If the President were really sincere about reform and a willingness to keep the top tax rate at or below 35%, he'd negotiate that at the same time he does a debt deal. Mr. Boehner will have a hard enough time getting any debt-limit increase through the House, much less one that raises tax rates
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The actual UE rate is @17% because the Rats had to put this imbecile in the oval office with McCains Help.
We could use a tax ceiling taking all forms of taxes into account.
Remarkable when the corporate tax rate in this country is higher than Red China and even Germany. What do they expect will result?!? We used to produce half the world’s goods, and the liberal politicians took that and threw it away to our enemies.
Clearly points to the cancer. During Bush 2 Nancy took over the speakers chair. Well look at what happened. Un controlled spending, New agencies, on and on. This is the first chance to stop the madness.
This has to be reversed, not just stopped. They were put there in overwhelming numbers to do just that. If the house does not, Good luck to them., and us all
Why do you think the R's hate the T's as much or more than the D's
They tax what don’t want, and award money ton things they do...
Which explains why they tax businesses, promote offshoring companies, and push welfare on any that will take it
“Hey it got Mc Lame a no run DNC contract.
Why do you think the R’s hate the T’s as much or more than the D’s”
That stinking rotted corpse, Needs to just go away and stink up Mexico or another chithole but not here.
This is all a show “fight” that will end with a debt increase.
Tax the Bankers.
And leave working Americans alone.
Thanks socialism_stinX.
Learn the truth...
Dario Busch: Harrell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r37Fm7paVjs&feature=related
commissioner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSW_M5_jPkA&feature=related
Whitey Harrell case:
The state of Illinois vs Whitey Harrell
http://www.aardvarkbusiness.net/chat/viewtopic.php?t=12502
PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS vs. GAYLON L. HARRELL,
In deliberation, the jury asked the judge for a copy of the law Harrell was being tried for breaking, but the judge would not supply it. When they found that certain evidence admitted into the record during the trial by the defense was missing, they requested it of the judge and were again denied. They acquitted Harrell on all counts. Even though the parties were in state court and the official charge was “failure to file” state income tax returns, the case was really about the legal requirement to file a federal income tax return because, like most states, Illinois’ law mandates the filing of a state income tax return if the Illinois resident is required to file a federal income tax return. Harrell’s case is cited as PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS vs. GAYLON L. HARRELL, Case Number 97CF89 in the Circuit Court of the Twentieth Judicial Circuit, St. Clair County, Illinois.
Forget the war in Iraq, Afghanistan and our excellent adventure in Liberia. Forget about Kobe, Arnold, Arriana, Scott and Laci. The biggest news of the entire week is that on August 8, 2003, the IRS was unable to convince a jury in Memphis, Tennessee that the Federal Tax Code requires the citizens to pay individual income taxes. I kid you not. I watched as many Sunday news programs as I could possibly stand, and I didn’t hear a single mention of the IRS’ debacle in Memphis. If you ever had doubts about the mainstream media being controlled by the federal government, doubt no more.
For those not already aware, FedEx Pilot Vernice Kuglin began studying the IRS Code some years ago, and was simply unable to find anywhere in the code that she was required to pay federal income taxes.
And here’s the most remarkable part: Back in 1995, Kuglin wrote letters in good faith to the IRS, asking them to show her where the Tax Code requires individual citizens to pay federal income taxes. Incredibly, the IRS never answered a single one of her letters!
As she studied the facts, laws and related documents more, Kuglin became convinced that, regardless of the IRS’ failure to respond one way or the other, she was exempt from paying federal income taxes. So, Kuglin filled out W-4 forms showing 99 exemptions, and turned them in to her employer. Doing that meant Kuglin got to take home almost all of her paycheck each payday, instead of what was left after the feds ravaged it.
The IRS went after Kuglin for six counts of tax evasion on $920,000.00 income, and for filing “false” W-4 forms, charges that could have put the 58 year-old Kuglin in federal prison for up to 30 years and cost her 1.5 million in fines.
Apparently, things didn’t go quite the slam-dunk way federal prosecutor Joe Murphy thought they would. My money says the IRS wishes they had never gone after Kuglin at all. In fact, after the jury returned not guilty verdicts on all counts, Murphy is reported to have demanded that the judge order Kuglin to file her forms, pay her taxes and “obey the law”. The judge reportedly replied, “Sir, I don’t work for the IRS.”
Now pinch yourself and review this astonishing turn of events: A highly trained and educated federal prosecutor in Memphis was unable to convince 12 American citizens that Vernice Kuglin was required to pay federal income taxes. He was clearly unable to produce a single section of the Tax Code to that end, and the jury was unanimous in clearing Kuglin of all charges against her. If the foregoing was not so, Kuglin would have been convicted.
Jurors tend not to be very sympathetic with tax scofflaws, since each one of them is also a taxpayer and they understandably feel resentment towards anyone not paying “their fair share”. So in order for this federal jury to completely vindicate Kuglin, the government’s failure to prove their case against her had to have been clear and unequivocal!
I haven’t read the trial transcript yet, but I must assume the federal prosecutor at least tried to twist some vague and ambiguous section of the Tax Code to make it look like it applied to Kuglin. I don’t know that, but I’ll bet he tried. What else could he use to prosecute her with?
Thanks to the IRS’ arrogance and stupidity, and Kuglin’s refusal to plead to lesser charges, Kuglin accomplished what Bob Schultz and the other “tax protesters” had been denied all along: To force the IRS into a public debate and to answer the question of whether or not the Tax Code requires an individual to pay personal income taxes. Kuglin and her two attorneys, Larry Becraft and Robert Bernhoft, have unequivocally forced the IRS to show its hand, and 12 judges hearing that debate ruled the answer to be “NO”.
I think it’s time for everyone reading this to send a very polite letter to the IRS, telling them they read about the case in Memphis, and is it true that there is no section in the U.S. Tax Code that requires an individual citizen to pay federal income taxes?
Don’t be threatening in any way, or announce that you plan to stop paying federal income taxes. This request is for your personal edification, and you just simply want to know the truth.
Like Kuglin, you probably won’t get an answer back, but just to prove you sent the letter and that they received it, be certain to send the letter via certified U.S. Mail, with a return receipt requested. When you get that receipt back, staple it to a copy of the letter you sent the IRS, and put it somewhere real secure, like a personal safe or bank deposit box.
I don’t have to explain why, now do I?
Now, how many calls to FOX’ Bill O’Reilly will it take to convince him we know he’s doing a spin in the No-Spin Zone by sitting on this story? Start e-mailing O’Reilly at oreilly@foxnews.com, and be sure to give him your city and state. He’s gonna love me.
Carl F. Worden[/SIZE]
The US taxed itself to oblivion. If it is cheaper to make goods in other countries it's not necessarily due to lower cost labor -- that's a factor, but can be offset by lower skills. What hits are the taxes, the EPA regulations (some are good, but many are insane), etc. etc.
Exactly. That is the most under-reported story of the past four or five years. Spending has increased to insane levels. Now that it is at an all time high, Obama wants to "compromise." Its the old story of Dems proposing a $100 spending increase and the GOP "compromising" on a $50 spending increase. And Wall Street is too short sighted or corrupted by crony capitalism to demand a stop to the Ponzi scheme.
And while Obama and Pelosi have jacked spending up to insane levels, never forget that Lyndon Baines Bush and the "Republican" Congress of the early 2000s set the stage with what was, at that time, crazy levels of spending. Remember that "Compassionate Conservatism" was about pushing big government conservatism, whatever that means. It was a poison that got us where we are now.
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