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Despite revolution, US set to approve tank sales to Egypt
The Jerusalem Post ^ | 07/08/2011 | YAAKOV KATZ

Posted on 07/08/2011 12:12:00 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Despite revolution, US set to approve tank sales to Egypt

By YAAKOV KATZ

07/08/2011 18:21

If approved, the deal would increase the number of Abrams tanks in Egypt from around 1,000 to 1,13; Congress must approve deal.

Despite the recent revolution in Egypt and continued anti-government demonstrations there on Friday, the United States signaled this week that it plans to continue business as usual when it comes to arms sales to the Egyptian Military.

On Friday, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of a possible sale of 125 M1A1 Abrams tank to Egypt – the first large arms deal since Hosni Mubarak was ousted from power in February - including associated weapons, equipment, parts, training and logistical support for an estimated cost of just over $1.3 billion.

If approved, the deal would increase the number of Abrams tanks in Egypt from around 1,000 to 1,130.

According to the notification to Congress, Egypt would receive 125 tanks parts of which would be produced in Egypt as well as M256 Armament Systems, M2 .50 caliber machine guns, 7.62mm machine guns, spare parts, maintenance, support equipment, personnel training and other related elements of logistics and program support.

The Pentagon told Congress – which has 30 days to object to the deal – that the sale of the tanks would “contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country that has been and continues to be an important force for political stability and economic progress in the Middle East.”

The Pentagon further stated that the new tanks would “provide Egypt with a modern tank fleet, enhancing its capability to meet current and future threats.”

News of the deal raised some eyebrows in Israel which has carefully watched arms sales to Egypt ever since Cairo began to receive foreign military aid from the United States to the tune of about $1.3 billion annually following the peace treaty the two countries signed in 1979.

Israel has in the past lobbied Congress against specific arms deals to Egypt. In the past few years, Egypt has purchased 24 new F-16 fighter jets, new Hellfire missiles, new Harpoon anti-ship missiles, new TOW anti-tank missiles, new Chinook transport helicopters and new Apache attack helicopters.

Israel is concerned of the possibility that Egypt will take a radical shift in elections expected to be held by the end of the year and could potentially once again turn into a hostile state to Israel, depending possibly on the identity of the new president and the amount of seats the Muslim Brotherhood win in parliament.

The IDF has for the time being taken a cautious approach to the developments in Egypt with Chief of General Staff Lt.-Gen. Benny Gantz choosing a long-term plan formulated by the Planning Directorate, under which the IDF would grow over a number of years and not launch an immediate procurement plan to counter the possible threat evolving in the South.

Gantz’s thinking is based on the assumption that a war with Egypt will not happen any time soon, and that an immediate new procurement plan announced by the IDF could actually have the opposite effect, be detrimental and increase tension between the countries.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abrams; egypt; israel; m1a1

1 posted on 07/08/2011 12:12:06 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Allways selling tools to invade Israel to the Arabs. Somehow I think its not a wise investment.


2 posted on 07/08/2011 12:15:13 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel

Wow,

I am stunned that we are in the arms selling business still.


3 posted on 07/08/2011 12:18:13 PM PDT by Baseballguy (If we knew what we know now in Oct would we do anything different?)
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To: Baseballguy

You get a peace prize for selling tools of war?


4 posted on 07/08/2011 12:22:03 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (As long as the MSM covers for Obama, he will be above the law.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It’s my understanding that we have a tank factory in Egypt and there are already 1000 tanks in inventory. We need to bring those tanks home or move them out of the country and close the factory. But.....the muslim brotherhood will be happy to get them.


5 posted on 07/08/2011 12:23:10 PM PDT by RC2
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To: Baseballguy
I am stunned that we are in the arms selling business still.

We're not really selling this stuff - we're actually giving it away!

6 posted on 07/08/2011 12:24:04 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Arms sales are always good for the economy. Just think how many people would be out of work, if we didn’t sell munitions and weapons systems.


7 posted on 07/08/2011 12:36:03 PM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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Since Egypt is a major recipient of US military aid, does this technically qualify as an arms sale??

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-11/world/egypt.military.facts_1_military-talks-military-aid-air-force?_s=PM:WORLD


8 posted on 07/08/2011 12:42:33 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

As long as the people in the tank plant here in the US get paid, it is to me.


9 posted on 07/08/2011 12:53:30 PM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: RC2

Some of the parts are brought in. The M256 cannon and
stabilizer, sights, and engines are imported.


10 posted on 07/08/2011 1:09:17 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: sukhoi-30mki

More Obama effort to wipe Israel off the map. With Mubarak gone, this is a very, very bad move.


11 posted on 07/08/2011 1:23:47 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Get that Republic Aircraft factory and tooling back on line. Israel needs about 100+ A-10s.


12 posted on 07/08/2011 1:31:12 PM PDT by hattend (Let's all meet Sarah at her last bus stop -- 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in Jan 2013)
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To: Baseballguy

So is Holder right now I suspect.


13 posted on 07/08/2011 1:31:58 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Egypt has 2000 tanks. It doesn't need any more to fight Sudan or Libya. These exist to fight Israel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipment_of_the_modern_Egyptian_Army
14 posted on 07/08/2011 1:48:51 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: stuartcr

The aid money spent on supplying tanks to Egypt can also be used to supply equipment to the US military. And that will also keep people in the US employed.


15 posted on 07/08/2011 1:55:13 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Sales?

They will use the money we give them to make the “purchase”.


16 posted on 07/08/2011 1:56:51 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Sales?

They will use the money we give them to make the “purchase”. But as long as obungler’s homies in the muzzie brotherhood are happy ...


17 posted on 07/08/2011 1:57:38 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

But we want that stuff to get destroyed, so we can sell more.


18 posted on 07/08/2011 4:29:18 PM PDT by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks sukhoi-30mki.
...would increase the number of Abrams tanks in Egypt from around 1,000 to 1,130...
Apropos of nothing, in the 1973 war, despite all the disadvantages Israel had to overcome, the Syrian invasion force of about 1400 tanks limped back home as a retreating force of about 350 tanks.


19 posted on 07/08/2011 6:43:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Apropos of nothing, in the 1973 war, despite all the disadvantages Israel had to overcome, the Syrian invasion force of about 1400 tanks limped back home as a retreating force of about 350 tanks. One of my cousins served in the Barak Brigade in the Golan Heights in 1973, where his undermanned brigade held off 3 Syrian divisions for the first day, broken only when the Syrains used their new infra-red lights to attack at night. My cousins tank, which had been damaged earlier finally was hit directly. The only reason he survived with only the lost of a leg and serious burns is that the Centurion was almost out of ammunition. His older brother who commanded a platoon of upgraded Shermans desperately sent to reclaim the Bar Lev line in the south was not so fortunate. Israel survived the first 3 days of Yom Kippur war because far too many soldiers stood and died against overwhelming numbers, and often superior weapons. Israelis never want to be in that situation again.

And as Americans, let us remember that threatened direct Soviet intervention almost escalated the war into a full nuclear exchange.
20 posted on 07/08/2011 7:30:52 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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