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Behind N.Y. Gay Marriage, an Unlikely Mix of Forces (Super-rich pushed through NY gay vote)
NYTimes ^ | June 25, 2011 | MICHAEL BARBARO

Posted on 06/26/2011 5:30:06 AM PDT by NYer

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To: wagglebee
Wagglebee's Theme

 

81 posted on 06/27/2011 12:23:50 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: pnh102; wagglebee; darkwing104; 50mm; stephenjohnbanker; SunkenCiv; paulycy; humblegunner; ...
H/T Wagglebee

Annoying pro-gay-marriage troll takes one step too many past the line and gets a well-deserved fiery escort outa here


You're a pro-death, pro-pervert loser

82 posted on 06/27/2011 12:32:46 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: NYer
Mario Cuomo Patched Things Up With Ed Koch For Andrew

The NY Times has a long feature on the relationship between former NY governor Mario Cuomo and presumptive 2010 gubernatorial candidate Andrew Cuomo that includes quotes like "He’s thick skulled; he won’t listen to me. Tell him what to do" (supposedly what Mario told a consultant about Andrew) and "There was this sense of rivalry — Andrew seemed to feel that his dad talked a good game but that he, Andrew, got things done" (someone who worked under Andrew Cuomo at HUD). But what's interesting is how the 1977 mayoral campaign comes into play.

Back in 1977, Mario Cuomo was battling Ed Koch for the NYC mayorship, and there were nasty campaign posters saying "Vote For Cuomo, Not The Homo." When Andrew Cuomo was running for attorney general in 2006 (after his failed 2002 gubernatorial run and divorce from Kerry Kennedy), the NY Times reports, "Mario approached George Arzt, a former press secretary to Mr. Koch, at the Regency Hotel in New York and told him, “‘I’d like to patch things up with Ed,’ ” Mr. Arzt recalled. “I asked him what he had in mind. And he said, ‘Could Ed endorse Andrew?’" Which Koch did do.

Koch, for his part, told Esquire, "The signs said, VOTE FOR CUOMO, NOT THE HOMO. Andrew says he didn't do it, and I believe him. Mario says he thinks he now knows who did it. I was very angry at the time. Primary races always end in anger. They're different than the general election: They're like a civil war — it's brother against brother. But I've forgiven them. I'm eighty-five now, and grudges take your energy away. I've forgiven them all."

Legalize Gay Marriage - Vote Homo Not Cuomo <<--- UTube Ad

The already circus-like race for New York governor just went from one ring to three.

Independent Kristin Davis, the former New York madam, is now calling out Democrat Andrew Cuomo for not taking a stronger stance for gay rights.

“It’s outrageous that New York has not legalized same-sex marriage,” Davis says in a new ad. “Andrew Cuomo says he supports it, but when the marriage equality bill was before the Senate, he was asked to call three undecided Democratic senators and declined. A vote for me sends a strong message to Cuomo: we demand gay marriage now.”

She ends the ad with a catchy phrase: “Vote homo, not Cuomo”:

According to CBS News, the line is a play off a campaign slogan used by some supporters of Andrew’s father Mario in the 1977 New York mayoral election against Ed Koch: “Vote for Cuomo, not the homo.” The reference was meant to advance rumors about Koch’s sexuality.

from a left wing political site the evening of the big celebration:

Andrew Cuomo 2016 speculation heating up Politico ^ | 06/26/11

With his successful push to pass a gay marriage law, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo overnight became a national contender, putting down a major marker among the liberal party base that dominates the primaries.

“Most politicians, including most Democrats, have been afraid of this issue. Andrew is the first national figure ever to embrace it so enthusiastically,” said Richard Socarides, the president of Equality Matters and a former Clinton White House adviser. “Clearly, this establishes him as the most important progressive leader of our party, setting him up very well for 2016.”

Come 2016, “Cuomo is the only one who will be able to say ‘I delivered for you’ before everyone else realized it was politically popular, and that will be an invaluable asset,” Socarides said, adding, “it also has the benefit of being true.”

Cuomo supporters already have fanned the flames privately of his prospects on the national stage: Rumors of his White House ambitions started circulating in New York even before he was elected last year by one of the largest margins in state history — some of them date to the days when he was managing his father’s own multiple flirtations with a national run. ..........

Of the early potential Democratic contenders, Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley says he supports gay marriage but stopped short of making a major push for the legislation earlier in the year, while Virginia Sen. Mark Warner is opposed. Hillary Clinton, if she runs, would still have her commitment to civil unions but not gay marriage from the 2008 race hanging over her — and at least until the end of next year, when she’s said she’ll be done at the State Department, she won’t be able to make any new comments on the issue.

“It gives him an authenticity and a strength with progressives that will provide a real base — not just gays, but progressives in general. Other people can say they’re for same sex marriage, he got it done,” said Democratic political consultant Bob Shrum. “I think it will always now be a hallmark of his political persona.”

Cuomo’s push on gay marriage wasn’t in a vacuum — it came at the end of a tough legislative session when New York progressives were forced to swallow major budget cuts, tough on unions rhetoric and a refusal to even consider renewing the state’s expired millionaire’s tax.

That’s part of the persona he’s crafting too, as Cuomo sets himself up as a governor who’s pushed the party to the left on social issues and toward the center-right on economic issues. It’s a message with both primary and general election appeal, though being so far out-front on gay marriage could be a problem in a November national election.

“He’s created a profile that I think would make him a very effective candidate,” Shrum said. “He’s right on the social issues, and he will be even more right by 2016 than he is now in terms of Democratic primary voters, and in terms of the country, frankly. He’s created a profile of economic stewardship in a very difficult period that is very strong, he’s managed to deal with unions without getting into the kind of destructive confrontations that people like Scott Walker have.”

.......

Joe Trippi, the former Howard Dean and John Edwards adviser, said it’s not too early to start the 2016 clock — and, pointing to Michael Dukakis in 1988, noted there’s a precedent for an ethnic Northeast governor appealing to Democrats far away from home.

“I understand 2016’s a long way off, and who knows where things will be then, but certainly, he has to be somebody that the party looks to for leadership once you get past Obama’s reelection,” Trippi said. “He’s putting his stamp on what kind of party he thinks the Democrats should be.”

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83 posted on 06/27/2011 12:47:18 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: TheOldLady

Monday, Monday.....gonna be a busy one, it seems!


84 posted on 06/27/2011 12:58:32 PM PDT by luvie (RUN SARAH...R U N!!!)
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To: LUV W

This one has been riding for a fall since he was warned the other day by JimRob himself.

He slunk away and stopped posting pro-euthanasia drivel on that thread, but couldn’t help himself and came here to preach homosexual “marriage.” And that was that.

He’s a liberaltarian.


85 posted on 06/27/2011 1:04:05 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: TheOldLady

...and now he’s toasted and buttered liberal!


86 posted on 06/27/2011 1:11:21 PM PDT by luvie (RUN SARAH...R U N!!!)
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To: TheOldLady

You’re making this really challenging. :)

Umm ... metaphysical style points awarded?


87 posted on 06/27/2011 1:31:30 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Mr. Romney and Mr. Obama are not rivals, they're running mates." - Rep. Thaddeus McCotter)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I’m positive that you’re up to the job, Colonel.

Thank you again. Double ZOTs mean double duty, well discharged.


88 posted on 06/27/2011 1:54:01 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: pnh102
You just HAD to keep annoying the gazebo.
Dread Gazebo

89 posted on 06/27/2011 2:28:41 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: TheOldLady

Hadn’t you heard that fractaling was polluting ground water... wait, that’s not it...


90 posted on 06/27/2011 3:31:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's the Obamacare, stupid! -- Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: TheOldLady; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...
This is an openly heterosexual caption. Thanks TheOldLady.

Homosexual Agenda

91 posted on 06/27/2011 3:36:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's the Obamacare, stupid! -- Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: wagglebee

INDEED and well put.


92 posted on 06/27/2011 4:12:34 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: wagglebee

AGREED.

Perhaps the kitties are overdue or need alerted.


93 posted on 06/27/2011 4:14:44 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
The kitties came by earlier.
94 posted on 06/27/2011 4:27:40 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Ahhhh . . . well deserved, it appeared, to me.


95 posted on 06/27/2011 4:37:14 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: SunkenCiv

I do like fractaling, but I know nothing about ground water and don’t think that fractals harm it in any way. But you never know. ;-p


96 posted on 06/27/2011 4:54:50 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: NYer
How many of the super-rich are really closet queers?

That guy being handed the pen for instance, looks...
...what is the terminology?

Questionable.

...no, wait. That's Questioning.

Cheers!

97 posted on 06/27/2011 4:55:10 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Shockingly openly heterosexual! You’re welcome, Civ!

This is an openly heterosexual post as well.


98 posted on 06/27/2011 4:56:33 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: wagglebee; pnh102; xzins; P-Marlowe
Thank you so very much for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!

It is no doubt true that God knows everything and everyone and His justice will be meted out to us, individually.

Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. - Matthew 7:1-2

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: - Luke 6:37

Blessed [are] the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. – Matt 5:7

But it is also true that nations and cities are judged collectively, e.g. Sodom and Gomorrah.

And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. - Revelation 19:15

And if we see His wrath building against our nation or state or city and fail to speak up, it is on us, individually.

Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman: If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people; Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.

He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.

But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take [any] person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.

So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me. - Ez 33:2-7

In other words, it would be perilous for a Christian to not to take a stand against what he knows to be an abomination to God, e.g. homosexuality, abortion.

God's Name is I AM.

99 posted on 06/27/2011 8:50:54 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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