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1 posted on 06/11/2011 6:57:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To clear the air, what are Ryan’s negatives?


2 posted on 06/11/2011 7:04:00 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: SeekAndFind

The article is a bad joke. We can admire Paul Ryan for having what passes for courage in D.C. Nevertheless, his plan won’t “save” our economy, let alone Western Civilization. The probability that the steps required to fix what is wrong with the government and, by extension, the economy is about the same as the probability that Barney Frank will be pregnant by Labor Day.

Ryan Plan or no Ryan Plan, the only question remaining is when the serious unraveling begins and what form it will take.


3 posted on 06/11/2011 7:12:44 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: SeekAndFind

The rule is, “Lead, follow, or get out of the way.’


8 posted on 06/11/2011 7:29:02 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: SeekAndFind

Grand design programs and proposals like “Obamacare” and the “Ryan plan” are very easy to run AGAINST in elections —to wit, the 2010 Republican landslide was largely about opposition to Obamacare.

The Ryan plan gives Demoviks a simple target for 2012. And what are the chances that the Ryan plan will ever really be adopted? You are risking everything for something that will probably never happen anyway.

The Republicans would be better served to keep away from these things and just talk about spending reductions, regulations cuts, more domestic drilling, sealing more of the border and deporting more illegals, things that can be done incrementally.

I know I’m in the minority here, but Trump was half correct about this. The lack of a Dem plan was a great political issue; the presentation of a Republican plan is likely to backfire.

And the fact that the Ryan plan is a good one on substance is probably irrelevant. Anyone here remember Reagan’s “new federalism”—?? It was a great idea too.


9 posted on 06/11/2011 7:46:22 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

Really good article about Congressman Paul Ryan.

Here’s a link to a youtube of the speech referenced in this article, in case you missed seeing it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS0HMTbYvHQ

I don’t think Ryan has the least bit of interest in running for higher office at this time. I think he truly believes he’s in the best place he could be, as budget committee chairman, to serve his country. I’m not sure I agree.


11 posted on 06/11/2011 7:49:50 PM PDT by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: SeekAndFind

Civilization? Ryan is an open border fanatic, who believes we should let everyone in, ending our civilizational status and heritage.


16 posted on 06/11/2011 8:00:43 PM PDT by rmlew (No Blood for Sarkozy's re-election and Union for the Mediterranean)
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course the ‘Rats are getting some assistance from supposedly anti-Obama Donald Trump, who has been on TV denouncing the Ryan Plan ferociously.


17 posted on 06/11/2011 8:28:43 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m a simpleton!

I enjoy coverage under Medicare, yet I have chosen Humana Insurance Co. to enter me in a “Medicare Advantage Program”.

This is a private insurance company, who receives my Medicare benefits, and administers their management talent to manage my medical care. It turns out that their service costs me nothing extra (used to be $10 per month.)

So, I think that basically my Humana Medicare is kind like a voucher program, just like the Ryan program.


Now, if Ryan plan says that I get a stipend of say $8,000 to buy my own insurance from one of multiple offerings, that’s great.

Remember that Obamacare only has one totally comprehensive level of coverage.

But, under Ryan, I’ll be able to choose to not have Maternity care, fertilization care, maybe extensive dental care, maybe skip child disease and immunization, some types of mental care, I can opt out of ambulance services if I wish, can cap my annual medical benefit; all based on competitive choices that I decide to make.

I certainly don’t understand the left’s problem with that.


21 posted on 06/11/2011 8:49:04 PM PDT by Noob1999
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including its $500 million "appropriation" from the current Medicare fund

The author made a mistake: it was $500 BILLION not $500 million.....

23 posted on 06/11/2011 10:40:10 PM PDT by Vetnet
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