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The Guerena Shooting: Initial Analysis
The Confederate Yankee ^ | 28 May, 2011 | MikeM

Posted on 06/01/2011 6:18:44 AM PDT by marktwain

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Interesting analysis of the SWAT raid that took Jose Guerena's life.
1 posted on 06/01/2011 6:18:48 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Well written.
I am still of the opinion that ‘no knock’ warrants do far more damage to the Constitution and all of us - than the actions of the very few drug dealers who would possibly escape conviction if such warrants were abolished for all but hostage situations.
2 posted on 06/01/2011 6:27:44 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: marktwain

Bump for later


3 posted on 06/01/2011 6:29:42 AM PDT by Double Tap
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All police officers are taught to avoid the “fatal funnel,” or placing them selves in a narrow, tight area where it is easy for bad guys to shoot them. Being silhouetted in a doorframe is a classic example, as is being stacked up in a narrow hallway. If one can’t avoid such areas, it is imperative to minimize the time spent in them.

You mean, like this?


4 posted on 06/01/2011 6:31:07 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: marktwain

mark


5 posted on 06/01/2011 6:31:25 AM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: marktwain

It would have been a whole lot more convenient if you had just posted a link to this book long article.

That way, others could have posted a response .. without having to scroll through the whole thing first.

That being said .. This guy is full of it!

Being former “special forces” myself and having been trained with one of the world’s finest search and destroy outfits .. There is Absolutely No scenario that I am aware of .. where a properly trained unit would have a need to unload 60+ rounds into one poor bass-turd!


6 posted on 06/01/2011 6:34:05 AM PDT by freejohn
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To: marktwain

Conspiracy to Commit Murder


7 posted on 06/01/2011 6:35:08 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: RedStateRocker; marktwain
--agree-

-and I will re-iterate my oft-posted opinion that SWAT teams should be disbanded, the members put in a regular uniform, issued a revolver with two speedloaders, issued a set of brogans with soles about an inch thick and given a beat to patrol on foot twice a shift--that would constitute useful law enforcement--

8 posted on 06/01/2011 6:39:26 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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There is Absolutely No scenario that I am aware of .. where a properly trained unit would have a need to unload 60+ rounds into one poor bass-turd!

The writer seems to agree with you. What am I missing?

That the SWAT team apparently did not immediately follow up their fire and completely clear the home is further, damning evidence of unbelievably poor leadership and execution. For those who have experience in such matters, the apparent behavior of the police is simply mind-boggling.

9 posted on 06/01/2011 6:39:54 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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“no knock warrant”

is a contradiction in terms.

This should NOT exist in our country. I really don’t care about the “preservation of evidence” as much as I do the life of the innocent homeowner, or even the “presumed innocent” homeowner.


10 posted on 06/01/2011 6:43:55 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: marktwain

Jesus Guerena now knows three people that have been killed in illegal home invasions.


11 posted on 06/01/2011 6:44:58 AM PDT by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTY or no party)
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Sounds to me like monumental incompetence.

Crimminaly so.


12 posted on 06/01/2011 6:48:34 AM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: freejohn

Nonsense. If he had just posted a link, he would have gotten complaints asking why he didn’t just post the whole thing. It’s gotten to be a FR thing. People complaining about the way other people post.


13 posted on 06/01/2011 6:48:48 AM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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BFLR ...


14 posted on 06/01/2011 6:49:09 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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Very fair and balanced assessment.....

What this ultimately points to is a badly managed department that sent an unqualified “team” in to execute a dubious warrant and that is now scrambling to cover their asses.


15 posted on 06/01/2011 6:50:12 AM PDT by misterrob (You cannot call yourself a conservative if you support socialistic government programs!)
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To: SuzyQue

When you have an article that could have been published in bound volume form .. proper etiquette would suggest that You Don’t publish it .. in it’s entirety in a Forum Format.


16 posted on 06/01/2011 6:53:23 AM PDT by freejohn
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To: marktwain

BTTT


17 posted on 06/01/2011 6:53:35 AM PDT by Charlespg
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To: freejohn

It is okay to post a portion .. to whet the appetite and to allow others to choose whether or not to peruse the Entire book!


18 posted on 06/01/2011 6:55:48 AM PDT by freejohn
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To: freejohn

Above the title there’s a “Skip to Comments” link.


19 posted on 06/01/2011 6:56:15 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: freejohn

Or just comment based on the subject matter in the title, like most of us do... :)


20 posted on 06/01/2011 6:57:04 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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