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Mitt Romney admits he’s a big fan of ‘Twilight’
Yahoo News ^ | May 31, 2011 | Holly Baily

Posted on 05/31/2011 12:32:57 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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To: JAKraig
They don’t practice polygamy now.

They SHOULD; as it is in their SCRIPTURE to do so.

If, by some strange reason, a MORMON would actually read and FOLLOW D&C 132, they would be EXCOMMUNICATED by the sniveling weasels of Salt LAke City who are afraid of the POWER of the United States Government!


Here; read their reasoning.

If you can find where their GOD told them to change; I'm sure a whole lot of us would like to see it!


 
 
 
OFFICIAL DECLARATION—1

To Whom It May Concern:

Press dispatches having been sent for political purposes, from Salt Lake City, which have been widely published, to the effect that the Utah Commission, in their recent report to the Secretary of the Interior, allege that plural marriages are still being solemnized and that forty or more such marriages have been contracted in Utah since last June or during the past year, also that in public discourses the leaders of the Church have taught, encouraged and urged the continuance of the practice of polygamy

I, therefore, as President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, do hereby, in the most solemn manner, declare that these charges are false. We are not teaching polygamy or plural marriage, nor permitting any person to enter into its practice, and I deny that either forty or any other number of plural marriages have during that period been solemnized in our Temples or in any other place in the Territory.

One case has been reported, in which the parties allege that the marriage was performed in the Endowment House, in Salt Lake City, in the Spring of 1889, but I have not been able to learn who performed the ceremony; whatever was done in this matter was without my knowledge. In consequence of this alleged occurrence the Endowment House was, by my instructions, taken down without delay.

Inasmuch as laws have been enacted by Congress forbidding plural marriages, which laws have been pronounced constitutional by the court of last resort, I hereby declare my intention to submit to those laws, and to use my influence with the members of the Church over which I preside to have them do likewise.

There is nothing in my teachings to the Church or in those of my associates, during the time specified, which can be reasonably construed to inculcate or encourage polygamy; and when any Elder of the Church has used language which appeared to convey any such teaching, he has been promptly reproved. And I now publicly declare that my advice to the Latter-day Saints is to refrain from contracting any marriage forbidden by the law of the land.

WILFORD WOODRUFF
President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

 




President Lorenzo Snow offered the following:

“I move that, recognizing Wilford Woodruff as the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and the only man on the earth at the present time who holds the keys of the sealing ordinances, we consider him fully authorized by virtue of his position to issue the Manifesto which has been read in our hearing, and which is dated September 24th, 1890, and that as a Church in General Conference assembled, we accept his declaration concerning plural marriages as authoritative and binding.”

The vote to sustain the foregoing motion was unanimous.

Salt Lake City, Utah, October 6, 1890.







 

EXCERPTS FROM THREE ADDRESSES BY
PRESIDENT WILFORD WOODRUFF
REGARDING THE MANIFESTO

The Lord will never permit me or any other man who stands as President of this Church to lead you astray. It is not in the programme. It is not in the mind of God. If I were to attempt that, the Lord would remove me out of my place, and so He will any other man who attempts to lead the children of men astray from the oracles of God and from their duty. (Sixty-first Semiannual General Conference of the Church, Monday, October 6, 1890, Salt Lake City, Utah. Reported in Deseret Evening News, October 11, 1890, p. 2.)

It matters not who lives or who dies, or who is called to lead this Church, they have got to lead it by the inspiration of Almighty God. If they do not do it that way, they cannot do it at all. . . .

I have had some revelations of late, and very important ones to me, and I will tell you what the Lord has said to me. Let me bring your minds to what is termed the manifesto. . . .

The Lord has told me to ask the Latter-day Saints a question, and He also told me that if they would listen to what I said to them and answer the question put to them, by the Spirit and power of God, they would all answer alike, and they would all believe alike with regard to this matter.

The question is this: Which is the wisest course for the Latter-day Saints to pursue—to continue to attempt to practice plural marriage, with the laws of the nation against it and the opposition of sixty millions of people, and at the cost of the confiscation and loss of all the Temples, and the stopping of all the ordinances therein, both for the living and the dead, and the imprisonment of the First Presidency and Twelve and the heads of families in the Church, and the confiscation of personal property of the people (all of which of themselves would stop the practice); or, after doing and suffering what we have through our adherence to this principle to cease the practice and submit to the law, and through doing so leave the Prophets, Apostles and fathers at home, so that they can instruct the people and attend to the duties of the Church, and also leave the Temples in the hands of the Saints, so that they can attend to the ordinances of the Gospel, both for the living and the dead?

The Lord showed me by vision and revelation exactly what would take place
if we did not stop this practice. If we had not stopped it, you would have had no use for . . . any of the men in this temple at Logan; for all ordinances would be stopped throughout the land of Zion. Confusion would reign throughout Israel, and many men would be made prisoners. This trouble would have come upon the whole Church, and we should have been compelled to stop the practice. Now, the question is, whether it should be stopped in this manner, or in the way the Lord has manifested to us, and leave our Prophets and Apostles and fathers free men, and the temples in the hands of the people, so that the dead may be redeemed. A large number has already been delivered from the prison house in the spirit world by this people, and shall the work go on or stop? This is the question I lay before the Latter-day Saints. You have to judge for yourselves. I want you to answer it for yourselves. I shall not answer it; but I say to you that that is exactly the condition we as a people would have been in had we not taken the course we have.

. . . I saw exactly what would come to pass if there was not something done. I have had this spirit upon me for a long time. But I want to say this: I should have let all the temples go out of our hands; I should have gone to prison myself, and let every other man go there, had not the God of heaven commanded me to do what I did do; and when the hour came that I was commanded to do that, it was all clear to me. I went before the Lord, and I wrote what the Lord told me to write. . . .

I leave this with you, for you to contemplate and consider. The Lord is at work with us.
(Cache Stake Conference, Logan, Utah, Sunday, November 1, 1891. Reported in Deseret Weekly, November 14, 1891.)
 
 
 

Now I will tell you what was manifested to me and what the Son of God performed in this thing. . . . All these things would have come to pass, as God Almighty lives, had not that Manifesto been given. Therefore, the Son of God felt disposed to have that thing presented to the Church and to the world for purposes in his own mind. The Lord had decreed the establishment of Zion. He had decreed the finishing of this temple. He had decreed that the salvation of the living and the dead should be given in these valleys of the mountains. And Almighty God decreed that the Devil should not thwart it. If you can understand that, that is a key to it.
 
(From a discourse at the sixth session of the dedication of the Salt Lake Temple, April 1893. Typescript of Dedicatory Services, Archives, Church Historical Department, Salt Lake City, Utah.)
 

 
 
 
 
What kind of  'Leadership' is THIS???
 
compared to...
 
 
 
 
Hebrews 11:35-40
 35.  Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection.
 36.  Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison.
 37.  They were stoned ; they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated--
 38.  the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and in caves and holes in the ground. 
 
 
or compared to...
 

Acts 4:19.  But Peter and John replied, "Judge for yourselves whether it is right in God's sight to obey you rather than God.
 


 
So much for an 'Everlasting Covenant' that thundered out of Heaven!!!
 
Well; it DID last about 47 years!
 



 
Inasmuch as laws have been enacted by Congress forbidding plural marriage...
I hereby declare my intention to submit to those laws..."

~ Wilford Woodruff, 4th LDS President

 


221 posted on 06/01/2011 2:26:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: JAKraig
Your reference to their one time leader as “Joey” shows a real lack of respect for them.

NAWWwww...

It's a LACK OF RESPECT for JOEY!!


 

Polygamy: How it all got Started


 
 
 
Joe: Hey Emma!   Guess what!?
 
Emma: You KNOW I hate these guessing games! What is it, Dear?
 
Joe: I heard a voice, probably the Lord, tell me I must take other wives.
 
Emma: WHAT!?   You ding bat!  Don't you KNOW what our precious BOOK says?   After all; YOU are the one that translated it!
 
Joe: Books; schmooks.   All I know is I've been COMMANDED to take other wives and you are to OBEY ME!!!
 
 
Emma:      "Though shalt NOT commit ADULTERY!!!"
 
 
Joe: Silly Woman!  You KNOW better than to take things out of CONTEXT!!!
 
 
 
 
 

 
...and the rest is HISTORY...
 

 
 
 
 
 
THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI
CHAPTER 2
 
  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
 

Or even HERE:
 

 1 Timothy 3:2-3
 2.  Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
 3.  not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
 
 
1 Timothy 3:12
   A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
 
 
 Titus 1:6
   An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.



 
 
Emma: That's IT!   I'm LEAVING your sorry *!!!
 
Joe:  DARN you Emma; you were TOLD to accept this!!   Wait!!!   I hear a voice again!!!
 
 


 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
  51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
 
 
  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.


222 posted on 06/01/2011 2:29:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: RowdyFFC

You are not concerned; while I am not surprised.


223 posted on 06/01/2011 2:31:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: RowdyFFC
YOU are the one who typed PLUS; not me.

I have no comments to defend.

224 posted on 06/01/2011 2:33:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

No, I’m not at all concerned over to women acting like cats fighting over a full litter box. You two aren’t Christians. You’re snarky gritches, just because I said it didn’t bother me Romney read the Twister books because I enjoyed them too.

Now you two, go buzz around your litter box, and have a good day.


225 posted on 06/01/2011 2:35:24 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC
Even if their dogma does not suit me...they live more like Christians than you two do.

I'd rather have a Pharisee for a neighbor than...

226 posted on 06/01/2011 2:35:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Tennessee Nana

1/3 beast


227 posted on 06/01/2011 2:37:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: RowdyFFC

Another one, failing to adequately justify his words, stalks from the field of battle claiming victory!


228 posted on 06/01/2011 2:39:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

Good for you, toots noor! Ta Ta, as in buzz off.


229 posted on 06/01/2011 2:40:00 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC
You’re snarky gritches, just because I said it didn’t bother me Romney read the Twister books because I enjoyed them too.

You spelled BITCHES wrong...

230 posted on 06/01/2011 2:40:07 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

No, I didn’t, I typed gritches and I meant gritches. Ta ta...buzz off.


231 posted on 06/01/2011 2:41:28 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC

232 posted on 06/01/2011 2:43:23 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: RowdyFFC

No, I didn’t, I typed gritches and I meant gritches. Ta ta...buzz off.

 

 

 

Uh, Ok...

 


 

Source: The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (2003-OCT-10)

gritch

   /grich/ 1.  A complaint (often caused by a glitch).

   2. To complain.  Often verb-doubled: "Gritch gritch".

   3. A synonym for glitch (as verb or noun).

   (1995-01-31)

Source: Jargon File (4.3.1, 29 Jun 2001)

gritch /grich/ [MIT] 1. n. A complaint (often caused by a glitch). 2.
   vi. To complain. Often verb-doubled: "Gritch gritch". 3. A synonym for
   glitch (as verb or noun).

   Interestingly, this word seems to have a separate history from
   glitch, with which it is often confused. Back in the early 1960s, when
   `glitch' was strictly a hardware-tech's term of art, the Burton House
   dorm at M.I.T. maintained a "Gritch Book", a blank volume, into which
   the residents hand-wrote complaints, suggestions, and witticisms.
   Previous years' volumes of this tradition were maintained, dating back
   to antiquity. The word "gritch" was described as a portmanteau of
   "gripe" and "bitch". Thus, sense 3 above is at least historically
   incorrect.

233 posted on 06/01/2011 2:46:54 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

race ya to the half

:)


234 posted on 06/01/2011 3:47:35 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"Twilight" is totally watchable as long as you have the Rifftrax commentaries going...

Twilight

Twilight: New Moon

Twilight: Eclipse

235 posted on 06/01/2011 4:11:30 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: MHGinTN; Elsie; Tennessee Nana; RowdyFFC
From Rowdy, the money quote: Do you even have a clue what grace is and what Jesus did in his agony at Gethsemane?
236 posted on 06/01/2011 5:11:39 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Why do people try to "out-nice" Jesus?)
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To: greyfoxx39

Glad you liked that greyfoxx39. Thanks. Especially since the bobbsey twins, MGinTn and Elsie neither one even knows what it means.


237 posted on 06/01/2011 5:20:55 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: RowdyFFC; Elsie

Bless your little heart, we’re not twins ... I’m older and have more hair.


238 posted on 06/01/2011 5:33:43 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: RowdyFFC
Glad you liked that greyfoxx39. Thanks. Especially since the bobbsey twins, MGinTn and Elsie neither one even knows what it means.

Your assumption is incorrect.

239 posted on 06/01/2011 5:36:06 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Why do people try to "out-nice" Jesus?)
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To: greyfoxx39

The poster has somehow acquired several of DU and rami’s traits ... it is interesting to watch. Could there be a retread?


240 posted on 06/01/2011 5:36:35 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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