Posted on 05/28/2011 8:45:39 AM PDT by matt1234
Same here, and I live in Phoenix
There’s some evidence the dam is unstable.
"Dispensable" is one thing.
Expending $325 million in taxpayer dollars to dispense with them is another.
For some “odd” reason, hydro isn’t considered a renewable energy source.
The only way this kind of crap will fly is if the population of the U.S. is GREATLY reduced.
The watermelon’s ambition to restore the US to a landscape devoid of man, never stops. That is what blowing up the Mississippi levees was about, too.
Because our political and legal systems have been corrupt and infiltrated by our enemies and parasites, for a long, long, time.
Wind power kills birds..
your left with solar. but the panels are huge and ugly so nimby kicks in.
are candles still ok?
Then.... after they remove the dams, none of the fish will go UPSTREAM to spawn. They will return to where they were born, as you say, and that is not UPSTREAM.
SO...... removing these dams likely has nothing to do with the salmon, and more to do with some kind of real estate speculation, and having the government (citizens) pay for the removal of an old antiquated dam and power plant.
No you collect salmon eggs, you fertilizer them, you put them in the head waters above the current damn, they will return there to die, it has been proved several times already. There is a documentary on a restored river, and just like clock work the salmon returned. Look it up!!! I watched it several years ago.
” If you look into the back story of this project you will see that these particular antiquated dams have served their purpose and removing them is not an unreasonable thing to do at all”
Other than 325 million Tax payers dollars to do it.
I just want to make a couple of points:
1) Most of the salmon you get in the grocery store are farm raised (Atlantic salmon). And it may have been frozen, unless they specifically tell you it has been kept fresh. The greenies also fight every new salmon farm.
2) There are rivers on either side of the Elwa that never had a dam. Are they teaming with salmon?
3) The enviros have also shut down the hatcheries. So there isn’t a great surprise the salmon runs are down. A few years ago there was a big scandal as fishery employees we filmed clubbing returning hatchery salmon.
You make a good point but dams don’t come without maintenance costs either. You can’t just abandon them.
Were these dams any part of a flood control program? Just curious.
People living in a supposedly safe flood plain better sell now while they can still get a good price.
Understood. But they could continue to generate power indefinitely, I would imagine, which would more than pay for their maintenance costs.
The relatively ancient equipment probably installed in them, however, might belie that claim...
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As I said in #36 I am a long way from the Elwha and don't recall even passing over the bridge, but these Olympic rivers are in mountainous areas and generally reside within steep canyons (the river is also mostly within a national park). So there might be some flood control issues way downstream but not extensive ones. It dumps into the strait without much drama.
As would structural integrity issues that would require more debt to finance repairs and improvements.
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