Posted on 05/23/2011 12:43:41 AM PDT by Brown Deer
Rising stars of GOP in doubt because parents from overseas
Are U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal natural-born citizens of the United States, and thus eligible for the presidency?
Plotkin says Jindal's mother became a U.S. citizen Sept. 21, 1976, and his father was naturalized 10 years later on Dec. 4, 1986.
It's a similar situation for Rubio, as his press secretary Alex Burgos said the senator's parents "were permanent legal residents of the U.S." at the time Marco was born in 1971.
Then four years after Marco was born, "Mario and Oriales Rubio became naturalized U.S. citizens on Nov. 5, 1975," Burgos told WND.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
“Obama isn’t natural born if his dad wasn’t a citizen?”
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That was my understanding, but apparently there has never been a court case to set a precedent for anyone.
If Obozo can get away with being called a NBC, ANYONE can.
No laws apply to soetoro/obama/the messiah. he's speshual. doncha know that? LOL
Natural born citizen is an eligibility requirement to be President of the U.S.A. (A natural born citizen is born in a nation of citizen parents. This is natural law.)
It is NOT a statutory type of citizenship.
The statutory citizenship types can be found below:
USCIS - Citizenship
1) Native born citizenship - born in the United States. Gov. Bobby Jindal was born in Louisiana to parents who were Indian citizens residing in the U.S.A. legally. There are exception to this, such as the children of foreign diplomats and those not in the country legally.
2) Derived citizenship - children born to U.S. citizens in foreign lands “derive” their citizenship from their parents. Sen. John S. McCain was born in Panama to U.S. citizen parents.
3) Naturalized citizenship - foreign born individuals who naturalize as U.S. citizens. Gov. Schwarznegger is a naturalized citizen originally from Austria.
A U.S. Representative or U.S. Senator can be any of the above three and serve in public office.
Only a U.S. President must be both 1) and 2) above to serve as President.
OK, so that’s THREE ineligible.
Anyone running who IS qualified, not stupid, and not nuts?
If they are not Natural born, that is it.
If they are, than that it is.
We need to get each candidate to back up their credentials.
I don’t think most will have a problem with this and they shouldn’t.
Yes.
More news at 11.
If the left tries to make a big deal of this next election season then Bozo will have to resign since he would NOT be(and probably isn't anyway)a Natural Born citizen.
That idea is based on the notion that the democrat party would live up to, or be held to, the same standards which are imposed on others.
Decades of drunken and philandering kennedys, senators with "wide stances" on the toilet, etc., etc., tend to prove the fallacy of that idea.
Then why was BO a sponsor to the resolution in the senate, that found that although mccain was born in the Panama canal zone, becaus he had two citizen parents, he was a Natural Born Citizen. Read this again: They had senate hearing on McCains qualifications to president because he was born in the Panama canal zone and the Usurper, fraud was sitting in the senate judging whether McCain was a Natural Born Citizen.
Go to my post at #6 for the link to the United States Citizenship and Immigration Service page concerning “Citizenship”.
There you will find the three types of legal, statutory citizenship recognized by the U.S. government. Natural born citizenship is not mentioned BECAUSE it is not a type of citizenship.
Natural born citizen is ONLY an eligibility requirement to be President of the United States per the U.S. Constitution, Article II.
Some people desperately want it to be other wise so they can toss Bozo but sadly there is nothing in the constitution or court rulings which require two citizen parents if the person is born in the US.
Read the constitution and then FReepmail me the part that says you must have citizen parents in order to be called Natural Born citizen.
As I also said, if the left tries to raise this issue then Bozo is in deep sh**.
You are not confused.
There is no court decision or precedent specifically defining who is NBC and who is not.
My personal opinion, after reading the several Supreme Court decisions bearing on the issue, is that if the Court addresses the issue it will decide that NBC = native born. Arguably this has been the case since the Founding, and the position was enhanced by the 14th Amendment.
IOW, all those who are citizens at birth are NBC. Including, unfortunately, children born in this country to illegal aliens. Of those born on US soil, only children born to diplomats with diplomatic immunity are excluded.
Some believe otherwise, and their arguments are not trivial, but claims that NBC requires the father or both parents to be US citizens are contentions, they are not facts.
I am fully aware of all the counter-arguments, I just happen to disagree with them.
As I told another FReeper, show me the clause in the constitution that requires this or show me the court case that defines Natural Born as having to have two citizen parents if you are born in one of the US states. In reality there would have to be an amendment to the constitution in order for this to be a requirement since the constitution specifically excludes the need of having Citizen parents if you are born in a US state. Read the constitution and understand it, it is your friend.
Technically, Jindall is not natural born citizen right?
““Obama isn’t natural born if his dad wasn’t a citizen?””
Not correct. If a person was born within the U.S. or one of it’s territories such as Puerto Rico, Guam, Panama Canal Zone from 1903 till 1979 (John McCain)that person is a natural born citizen regardless of their parents legal status.
Romney and Obama are NOT eligible, either.
America will follow its Constitution or go the
way of Roman Empire very quickly.
Too bad you’ve read the Constitution, yet know nothing.
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