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Aircraft carriers gain clout in naval power
The Associated Press ^
| May 8, 2011
| SLOBODAN LEKIC
Posted on 05/09/2011 7:37:33 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
It is now 10:30 ... I like how you posted from the future.
To: ChiefJayStrongbow
Is this article from 1942?
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posted on
05/09/2011 7:44:05 AM PDT
by
Fido969
To: sukhoi-30mki
In a “global” event; carriers will be the first to go.
To: sukhoi-30mki
They take years to build, and seconds to destroy with a nuke where civilian collateral damage is minimal. And isn’t China building anti aircraft carrier nukes.
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posted on
05/09/2011 7:45:05 AM PDT
by
King Moonracer
(Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
To: Fido969
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posted on
05/09/2011 7:45:56 AM PDT
by
mad_as_he$$
(Ladies and Gentlemen the _resident of the untied States!!)
To: Fido969
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posted on
05/09/2011 7:46:08 AM PDT
by
mad_as_he$$
(Ladies and Gentlemen the _resident of the untied States!!)
To: sukhoi-30mki
"While the mammoth floating airports bristling with jets and missiles appear invincible, the reality is that since World War II they have mostly been used in conflicts with far weaker opponents. They have yet to face off against modern navies with their array of carrier-killing ballistic missiles, super-torpedos, and supersonic cruise missiles."
And which modern navy would that be that could take out our aircraft carriers? I don't know of one incident where any Navy has even damaged our aircraft carriers. Much less taken them out. The only time one of our carriers was almost taken out that I know of was the fire on the Enterprise in 1969. That was caused by bombs on the flight deck.
I think the armada of screening ships that surround our carriers make them pretty well guarded, even against a speedboat attack like the U.S.S Cole incident.
To: ChiefJayStrongbow; Fido969; mad_as_he$$
It is now 10:30 ... I like how you posted from the future.
To: King Moonracer
"They take years to build, and seconds to destroy with a nuke"
If you're going to talk about nukes, then nothing we build is safe. At that point, you're launching all of your nuke ballistic missles. No conventional weapon is designed to be used in a nuclear war save the submarines and planes launching nukes.
To: Paleo Conservative; mad_as_he$$
It’s not that the movie was all that bad, it’s just ... nevermind, it really was that bad.
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posted on
05/09/2011 7:51:21 AM PDT
by
Pan_Yan
To: Old Teufel Hunden; sukhoi-30mki
The only time one of our carriers was almost taken out that I know of was the fire on the Enterprise in 1969. That was caused by bombs on the flight deck.
It was the USS Forrestal not not the Enterprise that had the fire in 1967. John McCain was on the flight deck when it happened.
To: Pan_Yan
Its not that the movie was all that bad, its just ... nevermind, it really was that bad. It was final until the ending...a copout, IMHO. Why not change history? Wasn't that the whole point of a film that has dogfights between Tomcats and Zeros?
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posted on
05/09/2011 7:55:24 AM PDT
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Abin Sur
To: Old Teufel Hunden
These ships are defended by an armada, and also by the fact that no one wants to piss off the US that much. No one.
If I'm not mistaken, our doctrine is that any nation which takes out one of our carriers received a nuclear counter-attack. We don't have a lot of events which trigger a US nuclear response, but I believe sinking a carrier is one of them.
In other words, any foreign nation which seriously attacks a US carrier is going "all-in" and WWIII has begun.
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posted on
05/09/2011 7:56:24 AM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
To: Old Teufel Hunden; sukhoi-30mki
The only time one of our carriers was almost taken out that I know of was the fire on the Enterprise in 1969. That was caused by bombs on the flight deck. It was the USS Forrestal not not the Enterprise that had the fire in 1967. John McCain was on the flight deck when it happened.
To: Abin Sur
It was final until the ending
Er, make that "fine".
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posted on
05/09/2011 7:57:53 AM PDT
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Abin Sur
To: sukhoi-30mki
In a large scale war, an aircraft carrier is a floating target. Especially if you don’t have an AGEIS flotilla or equivelent system protecting it.
And the Chinese and Russians have new ballistic missiles that are designed to attack our carriers.
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posted on
05/09/2011 7:59:27 AM PDT
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Thunder90
(Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
To: King Moonracer
They are building anti ship missles which will be completely ineffective against aegis systems.
To: Pan_Yan
What are you talking about...that movie rocked, especially the dogfight between F-14 Tomcats and Japanese Zeroes !!!
To: ClearCase_guy
If I'm not mistaken, our doctrine is that any nation which takes out one of our carriers received a nuclear counter-attack. We don't have a lot of events which trigger a US nuclear response, but I believe sinking a carrier is one of them. While I believe the current occupant of the White House would give a (limited) nuclear reply if one of our carrier task forces was nuked, if a country somehow took out a carrier with conventional weapons I suspect he would only respond in kind.
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posted on
05/09/2011 8:02:29 AM PDT
by
Abin Sur
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