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Aircraft carriers gain clout in naval power
The Associated Press ^ | May 8, 2011 | SLOBODAN LEKIC

Posted on 05/09/2011 7:37:33 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

Aircraft carriers gain clout in naval power

By SLOBODAN LEKIC

The Associated Press

6:01 a.m. Sunday, May 8, 2011

ABOARD THE CHARLES DE GAULLE — Despite growing controversy about the cost and relevance of aircraft carriers, navies around the world are adding new ones to their inventories at a pace unseen since World War II.

The U.S. — with more carriers than all other nations combined — and established naval powers such as Britain, France and Russia are doing it. So are Brazil, India and China — which with Russia form the BRIC grouping of emerging economic giants.

"The whole idea is about being able to project power," said Rear Adm. Philippe Coindreau, commander of the French navy task force that has led the air strikes on Libya since March 22.

"An aircraft carrier is perfectly suited to these kinds of conflicts, and this ship demonstrates it every day," he said in an interview aboard the French carrier Charles de Gaulle, which has been launching daily raids against Moammar Gadhafi's forces since the international intervention in the Libyan conflict began March 22.

The 42,000-ton nuclear-powered carrier has been joined in this task by another smaller ship, Italy's 14,000-ton Giuseppe Garibaldi. None of the U.S. Navy's supercarriers have been involved, despite American participation in the war's initial phase.

The U.S. Navy still operates 11 nuclear-powered carriers, mostly Nimitz-class vessels displacing up to 100,000 tons.

The floating fortresses became the backbone of U.S. sea power after WWII, projecting military might around the world in crises and in conflicts such as Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Kosovo and Afghanistan.

Lee Willett, head of the maritime studies program at the Royal United Services Institute, a London

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aircraftcarrier; brazil; buymeanssell; china; sell; sellsignal
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1 posted on 05/09/2011 7:37:37 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It is now 10:30 ... I like how you posted from the future.


2 posted on 05/09/2011 7:39:49 AM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: ChiefJayStrongbow

Is this article from 1942?


3 posted on 05/09/2011 7:44:05 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: sukhoi-30mki

In a “global” event; carriers will be the first to go.


4 posted on 05/09/2011 7:44:36 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: sukhoi-30mki

They take years to build, and seconds to destroy with a nuke where civilian collateral damage is minimal. And isn’t China building anti aircraft carrier nukes.


5 posted on 05/09/2011 7:45:05 AM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: Fido969

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Final_Countdown_(film)


6 posted on 05/09/2011 7:45:56 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Ladies and Gentlemen the _resident of the untied States!!)
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To: Fido969

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Final_Countdown_(film)


7 posted on 05/09/2011 7:46:08 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Ladies and Gentlemen the _resident of the untied States!!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
"While the mammoth floating airports bristling with jets and missiles appear invincible, the reality is that since World War II they have mostly been used in conflicts with far weaker opponents. They have yet to face off against modern navies with their array of carrier-killing ballistic missiles, super-torpedos, and supersonic cruise missiles."

And which modern navy would that be that could take out our aircraft carriers? I don't know of one incident where any Navy has even damaged our aircraft carriers. Much less taken them out. The only time one of our carriers was almost taken out that I know of was the fire on the Enterprise in 1969. That was caused by bombs on the flight deck.

I think the armada of screening ships that surround our carriers make them pretty well guarded, even against a speedboat attack like the U.S.S Cole incident.
8 posted on 05/09/2011 7:47:40 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: ChiefJayStrongbow; Fido969; mad_as_he$$
It is now 10:30 ... I like how you posted from the future.


9 posted on 05/09/2011 7:49:05 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: King Moonracer
"They take years to build, and seconds to destroy with a nuke"

If you're going to talk about nukes, then nothing we build is safe. At that point, you're launching all of your nuke ballistic missles. No conventional weapon is designed to be used in a nuclear war save the submarines and planes launching nukes.
10 posted on 05/09/2011 7:50:27 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Paleo Conservative; mad_as_he$$

It’s not that the movie was all that bad, it’s just ... nevermind, it really was that bad.


11 posted on 05/09/2011 7:51:21 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Old Teufel Hunden; sukhoi-30mki
The only time one of our carriers was almost taken out that I know of was the fire on the Enterprise in 1969. That was caused by bombs on the flight deck.

It was the USS Forrestal not not the Enterprise that had the fire in 1967. John McCain was on the flight deck when it happened.

12 posted on 05/09/2011 7:53:46 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Pan_Yan
It’s not that the movie was all that bad, it’s just ... nevermind, it really was that bad.

It was final until the ending...a copout, IMHO. Why not change history? Wasn't that the whole point of a film that has dogfights between Tomcats and Zeros?

13 posted on 05/09/2011 7:55:24 AM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
These ships are defended by an armada, and also by the fact that no one wants to piss off the US that much. No one.

If I'm not mistaken, our doctrine is that any nation which takes out one of our carriers received a nuclear counter-attack. We don't have a lot of events which trigger a US nuclear response, but I believe sinking a carrier is one of them.

In other words, any foreign nation which seriously attacks a US carrier is going "all-in" and WWIII has begun.

14 posted on 05/09/2011 7:56:24 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden; sukhoi-30mki
The only time one of our carriers was almost taken out that I know of was the fire on the Enterprise in 1969. That was caused by bombs on the flight deck.

It was the USS Forrestal not not the Enterprise that had the fire in 1967. John McCain was on the flight deck when it happened.

15 posted on 05/09/2011 7:56:29 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Abin Sur
It was final until the ending

Er, make that "fine".

16 posted on 05/09/2011 7:57:53 AM PDT by Abin Sur
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To: sukhoi-30mki

In a large scale war, an aircraft carrier is a floating target. Especially if you don’t have an AGEIS flotilla or equivelent system protecting it.
And the Chinese and Russians have new ballistic missiles that are designed to attack our carriers.


17 posted on 05/09/2011 7:59:27 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: King Moonracer

They are building anti ship missles which will be completely ineffective against aegis systems.


18 posted on 05/09/2011 8:00:18 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: Pan_Yan

What are you talking about...that movie rocked, especially the dogfight between F-14 Tomcats and Japanese Zeroes !!!


19 posted on 05/09/2011 8:02:03 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
If I'm not mistaken, our doctrine is that any nation which takes out one of our carriers received a nuclear counter-attack. We don't have a lot of events which trigger a US nuclear response, but I believe sinking a carrier is one of them.

While I believe the current occupant of the White House would give a (limited) nuclear reply if one of our carrier task forces was nuked, if a country somehow took out a carrier with conventional weapons I suspect he would only respond in kind.

20 posted on 05/09/2011 8:02:29 AM PDT by Abin Sur
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