Jan Brewer vetoes Arizona’s “Birther bill” [Any Arizonans willing and able to explain?]

Hot Air ^ | April 18, 2011 | ALLAHPUNDIT

[goat granny]

It seems to me since each party is responsible for vetting their candidate, and not the responsibility of each state, perhaps a law could be enacted, not against the candidate but that each party MUST submit to each state a sworn statement that their candidate is qualified for the office and the official document that shows such....

It seems everyone on the right seem to forget its the party's responsibility to properly vet their candidate yet I have heard of no one going after the democrats for proof that the candidate they ran was qualified and documents showing such....

[Edgar3]

Whether you support the movement to get Obama to show his long form (I’m one who does), thinking someone was “gotten to” is the kind of thing I expect to see on DU or Alex Jones. Not FR.

Cool! I guess 10 years of Freeping have made me a progressive now? This reminds me of the movie "Being There",and how much one can suppose from 2 words.

[Flying right]

Of course, getting a passport does not require you to be a natural born citizen. If an illegal was smuggled in as a baby, he could easily have early records of living in the U.S. A person born in the U.S. 99.99% of the time has a birth certificate.

[kabar]

LOL. And you want to use the word of Obama to support your assertion that Barack Obama Sr. was his father. We need to see the long form period. Everything else is hearsay.

[kabar]

Agreed. We should not depend on the word of any official. We need to see the primary source material, i.e., the long form birth certificate.

[kabar]

True, but the AZ law covers all office seekers, not just those running for President.

The rules governing the issuance of a passport allow for other secondary sources to prove that someone was born in this country, but you must have several of them. And those sources will be scrutinized closely.

[Mr Rogers]

If there is no gatekeeper, then what prevents a teen from running for President? Or Arnuld...

[timestax]

ping

[TigersEye]

LOL. And you want to use the word of Obama to support your assertion that Barack Obama Sr. was his father.

It wasn't my assertion it was 0bama's. There is nothing else to go on. Except the pics of Sr. with Stanley Ann and BO. And the divorce decree. And the witnesses that Sr. and SA were together. And some correspondence between them. Other than that there is nothing.

Everything else is hearsay.

Thank you for making my point in advance.

Also thank you for ignoring the points I made so that they can stand unchallenged. Makes debating you simple as pie. LOL

[discostu]

The explanation is quite simple. She was never the conservative people thought. Prior to her big run of “conservatism” she refused to sign a budget that balanced but didn’t include any possibility of a tax hike, in order to get that tax hike past the people she threatened to slash the education budget if it didn’t get passed (then managed to re-sell that message as the tax hike “saving” schools). She was very unpopular across the board, especially within her own party. Then she started rubberstamping everything the GOP controlled legislature put on her desk just in time to start campaigning for election (remember she was appointed to replace Nappy). But it was all smoke and mirrors, and now that she’s safely in office via election she’s reverting to form.

[kabar]

It wasn't my assertion it was 0bama's. There is nothing else to go on.

No marriage papers. Pictures? Why not go to the long form of the birth certificate and see who was listed as the father?

Also thank you for ignoring the points I made so that they can stand unchallenged. Makes debating you simple as pie. LOL

LOL. Points? The bottom line is that we need to see Obama's long form BC regardless.

[TigersEye]

Why not go to the long form of the birth certificate and see who was listed as the father?

I've been saying that for three years.

Points?

Yeah, you know, the points I made that you are trying to deflect from with your non-sequitur BS about 0bama's father and the LFBC.

[kabar]

If you propose to do something legally about the purported fact that Obama's father was a British national and hence making Obama ineligible under the Constitution to be President because he is not a "natural born citizen" under the definition in the Constitution, then you need the long form of the birth certificate to support that argument, which has never been tested in the courts.

The idea that the long form of the birth certificate is irrelevant to the issue described above is patently false. It is absolutely essential to press the case, if anyone has the standing to do so. As of now, no one is stepping forward.

[TigersEye]

I didn't propose doing anything legally about "the purported fact that Obama's father was a British national and hence making Obama ineligible under the Constitution to be President because he is not a "natural born citizen" under the definition in the Constitution" and I never said the LFBC was irrelevant.

Next two straw men?