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Trump's Strength in Early Presidential Polls Defies Conventional Wisdom
Foxnews ^ | Stephen Clark

Posted on 04/16/2011 11:30:25 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

A top adviser for President Obama dismisses him as a "sideshow." Former Bush adviser Karl Rove calls him a "joke candidate."

But that hasn't stopped Donald Trump, who has captured national attention with his outspoken skepticism of Obama's citizenship, from surging in early presidential polls. He leads all potential GOP presidential candidates by nine points in a Public Policy Polling survey released Friday. He trailed only Mitt Romney in a NBC/Wall Street Journal poll released last week.

The real estate mogul and star of NBC's "The Apprentice" says he's encouraged by the polls, but won't make an announcement about his plans for a presidential bid until June. Yet he'll be in Florida this weekend to speak at a Tea Party Tax Day rally in his first political trip since he began making waves with talks of a possible presidential bid.

Despite Trump's early strong showing, many still aren't convinced of his electability and analysts say he will have to go beyond the so-called "birther" cause and define himself for Republican primary voters on social, fiscal and foreign policy issues.

Cary Covington, a political science professor at the University of Iowa, attributes Trump's high poll numbers more to a weak Republican field than to Trump's strengths as a potential candidate.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election2012; fox4ineligibles; fox4romney; foxvsamerica; miltromney; obama; romney4romney; rove; rove4romney; stenchofromney; tokyorove; trump
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To: Bridge_toofar
"If Trump is rejected by GOP, he has every right to run as Independent."

I would LOVE to hear your position on the recently reelected Senator from AK. Did Murkowski have every "right" to run as an Independent?

61 posted on 04/16/2011 12:16:01 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: okie01

I am talking about NOW. Not before any one really knew what OBAMA would be like as a president. That Hope & Change stuff sounded pretty good at the time.


62 posted on 04/16/2011 12:16:40 PM PDT by Bridge_toofar (Trump/Bachmann 2012 will finish off the Kenyan socialist for good.)
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To: OldDeckHand

Absolutely. We have the freedom in this country to run on any party ticket or as an independent. That does not mean I like Murkie. I thought her repub opponent was pretty good. But people in Alaska liked Murkie better, apparently.


63 posted on 04/16/2011 12:19:07 PM PDT by Bridge_toofar (Trump/Bachmann 2012 will finish off the Kenyan socialist for good.)
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To: Bridge_toofar
I made so much money in the stock market during 1992-2000, I was able to retire early. Jobs were going begging for skilled people like me during that time. Clinton was 1000 times better than Obama on economic policies. Of course Clinton had to contend with GOP congress who deserves most of the economic success. But Clinton at least went along with GOP Vs the Kenyan Socialist who uses Alinsky tactics every day. I don’t know if Hillary is same as Bill, but the present occupier of WH is 1000 times worse.

Bill Clinton had a first in 40 years of wandering in the proverbial wilderness a REPUBLICAN House of Representatives. They fenced OFF his socialist tendencies. BUT the Clintons put people in place to lay the ground work for this present administration to do thing 'better'. They got out foxed and neither one of them are willing to or are able to admit the error of their ways.... That is what liberalism is all about.

64 posted on 04/16/2011 12:20:16 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: OldDeckHand
The “evidence” has been out there for all to see over the last two years plus concerning the efforts of the media to marginalize Mrs. Palin, so do your own homework.

The Trump “phenomenon” is still in its infancy, and if does not take a genius to see where this is going, IMO.

65 posted on 04/16/2011 12:21:48 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox
"The “evidence” has been out there for all to see over the last two years plus concerning the efforts of the media to marginalize Mrs. Palin, so do your own homework."

So that means that you won't be sharing with us what is blatantly obvious to you? Not so interesting, sadly.

66 posted on 04/16/2011 12:23:47 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Just mythoughts

What Trump did is look at the Republican field and see a field that is not looking real strong right now against a leftist president whose approval ratings are tanking. So he decided to push a few button and demagogue a few issues (Obama’s birth, get tough with China), and now some so-called conservatives are fawning all over him. Trump is an opportunist of the highest order, and I would expect this type of egotistical behavior from him. What is disappointing is to see conservatives fall for his trash talk.


67 posted on 04/16/2011 12:24:10 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: AmericanVictory

I will tell you why. When your have lost your job, and your house is being foreclosed, and your kids can’t find summer jobs, and gas prices have doubled in 2 years, and food prices escalating every month, people are looking for a “leader”, not ideological purity. Just my honest opinion. No one knows if Trump can solve all problems, but people are hungry for a leader. Trump could never run unless real unemployment is 20% and house values have dropped 30% and gas+food prices are scaring the heck out of people.


68 posted on 04/16/2011 12:24:37 PM PDT by Bridge_toofar (Trump/Bachmann 2012 will finish off the Kenyan socialist for good.)
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To: OldDeckHand
You're quite capable of doing your own research, and you can find all the answers you need on this site alone. From the moment Mrs. Palin was selected as the VP candidate the media has had the long knives out for her, and I'm fairly confident you're well aware of that.

So, what's your point?

69 posted on 04/16/2011 12:26:20 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: AmericanVictory
Having fought against the Clintons as much as anyone, I am still puzzled by the failure of those who bill themselves as conservative to attack the obvious constitutional fraudulence of the One while the Donald will. How many copies of the Constitution has Heritage handed out while ignoring the One’s destruction of the constitutional rule of law by his eligibilitiy fraud?

Fraud is NOT limited to eligibility. As far as I am concerned the Clintons are every bit as big a 'fraud' as the one that got himself implanted to destroy this nation. Their hand are every bit as dirty as anybody else that is involved in politics. Now look at the LORD McCain harlotry... he is NO different than the rest. It does not appear to matter political party they all seem to come from the same 'root' base. We willing have allowed ourselves to be ripped OFFFF and the 'donald' is part of their mix.

70 posted on 04/16/2011 12:26:27 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Bridge_toofar
>>>>>I am talking about NOW. Not before any one really knew what OBAMA would be like as a president.

Conservatives knew what Obama was about FROM THE GET-GO. Hardcore liberal-socialist all the way.

>>>>>That Hope & Change stuff sounded pretty good at the time.

Only to a liberal or you rino loving trumpsters!

71 posted on 04/16/2011 12:26:27 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Bridge_toofar
"When your have lost your job, and your house is being foreclosed, and your kids can’t find summer jobs, and gas prices have doubled in 2 years, and food prices escalating every month, people are looking for a “leader”, not ideological purity."

I agree with that, actually. I'm not buying what Trump is selling, but I absolutely understand why some people are. I think your summation captures that reason perfectly.

72 posted on 04/16/2011 12:26:57 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Rove is a CLASS A1-HOLE all by himself!

His true 'establishment' DNA is poopin outta his
mouth again.

Unless you've been 'groomed' through the political
ruling-class, you're dog-dirt in his eyes.

He wants to clear the way of everyone, so he can
see his butt-boy RINO Romney get it.

... and he's starting to see TRUMP becoming a real
threat now.

Which is why you're now going to see ROVE-BOY now try
to 'Christine-O'Donnell' The Donald!

73 posted on 04/16/2011 12:27:19 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: NickFlooding
He is just another Ross Perot hell bent on assuring Republicans don't win. He tipped his hand several days ago when he said he would run as an independent if he didn't get the nomination and that would mean the certain reelection of Obama.

You got it. Right now Trump is the Obama administration's best strategy for continued existence. I can only hope that he has, as someone else just said, peaked too soon.
74 posted on 04/16/2011 12:28:35 PM PDT by hemogoblin
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To: Bridge_toofar
Sarah Palin backs Trump...

Only on the birth certificate issue...

75 posted on 04/16/2011 12:31:12 PM PDT by RINOs suck
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To: Bridge_toofar
-"When your have lost your job, and your house is being foreclosed, and your kids can’t find summer jobs, and gas prices have doubled in 2 years, and food prices escalating every month, people are looking for a “leader”, not ideological purity."

DITTO!
DITTO!
DITTO!

That's why I'm starting to like TRUMP now.

If Palin get's in, I'm going to have a tough choice.
But, I'm a Palin-leaner at the moment.

76 posted on 04/16/2011 12:31:12 PM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Conventional wisdom is stuck on stupid politicians like Democrats and RINOs. The American people are looking for heroes who can fix the nightmare. They thought they had one in Obama. That was a disaster because under the pretty and sexy black skin was a Communist. Now, the American people are looking at Trump. Not a milquetoast politician like the rest and certainly not a communist. If America can elect an idiot fraud like Obama, America can elect Trump. Pawlenty? Romney? Give me a break! They don't have a TV show like The Donald! Trump can be our next president and, the more I think about it, given our current crop of GOP crap, Trump may be just the ticket to turn things around for the Milquetoast so they can reemerge to screw us up again at a later date... YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST, AMERICA!!!!!
77 posted on 04/16/2011 12:31:47 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Trump is no conservative, that's plain.

He's vain, an egomaniac, and an opportunist. Without question.

He's also the only contender willing to take on the empty-suit that is Obama, and his enablers and sycophants in the MSM, with in-your-face style and barely concealed contempt.

And what's not to like about that?

78 posted on 04/16/2011 12:32:08 PM PDT by mojito
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To: Pox
"So, what's your point? "

My "point" is three-fold. First, it's clear from the headlines I posted that those same media long knives are out for Trump, too. I think it's also instructive to examine why Trump has (perhaps momentarily) broken through and Palin hasn't. Trump's media skills are exponentially greater than Palin's.

Where Trump isn't only not afraid to engage a hostile interviewer, he seems to relish it. Palin, not so much. In fact, she won't go on a show that isn't hosted by FNC. That says something.

My last point is that there are a half-dozen Republican candidates that would like just a fraction of the media buzz that has been bestowed on either Trump or Palin - Pawlenty would push his own mother down a flight of stairs if he thought it could get him a page 1 headline, just for a day. It wouldn't.

The media loves a good circus. Trump is just another side-show act in that big, media circus.

79 posted on 04/16/2011 12:32:42 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: AmericanVictory
Exactly what issues has he ignored?

Why he supported Canadian-style socialized health care back in 2000.

80 posted on 04/16/2011 12:33:04 PM PDT by RINOs suck
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