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Bill Would Allow Guns To Be Carried Uncovered(Fl)
wesh.com ^ | 21 March, 2011 | NA

Posted on 03/22/2011 5:36:03 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: Red in Blue PA

Hey, I support your desire to open carry. It’s a free world. But I don’t have Magic Ninja Powers, so I don’t want constantly be looking behind me.

As for examples, you are I hope aware that many cops are killed with their own pistols?

I don’t think a civilian will be less prone to having his plain-view uber-pistol heisted than a uniformed cop.

And it happens to them all the time.


41 posted on 03/22/2011 2:32:03 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Ramius

I agree with all of that.


42 posted on 03/22/2011 2:33:28 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Dead Corpse

Suit yourself. I support open carry for those who want it.


43 posted on 03/22/2011 2:38:43 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Dead Corpse; Ramius

Another addendum to my prior post on being OC bushwacked...the way police sometimes are. You walk into a crowd of people you can’t shoot, they turn aggressive while bumping you, and somebody grabs your OC pistol. Ask OC cops if this scenario worries them. It sure does, and for good reason: it happens!

Next case: the nasty brawling bad guy you told to stop hassling the ladies heads your way to pound your face.

But he sees your OC pistol, and thinks better. So he goes out to his truck and gets his own pistol, shotgun or rifle, and sits in the cab brooding until you come out.

This is just a sample scenario, but the point is it’s tactically stupid to tell an enemy to get out of pistol range, get cover, get a long arm and blow you away from ambush.


44 posted on 03/22/2011 2:44:31 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 109ACS
The police have no common sense when it comes to accidental firearm exposure.

Fixed it...

45 posted on 03/22/2011 2:47:11 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Oh, well, any excuse to buy a new gun is good enough for me.)
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To: marktwain
It's called “open carry”


I thought it was called “constitutional carry”
46 posted on 03/22/2011 2:52:03 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: Travis McGee
And it happens to them all the time

Hmm, don't seem to read about 'em all the time and I must be on the wrong channels because I'm missing them all in my daily perusing... darn high tech cable box thingy. ;-)

47 posted on 03/22/2011 2:56:45 PM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: AvOrdVet

You really haven’t heard of it? Really?

And it’s not the only reason why OC is tactically stupid.

It may be contitutionally the best thing since sliced bread, but tactically, it’s stupid to warn an enemy to get out of pistol range and kill you from ambush or long range.


48 posted on 03/22/2011 3:05:18 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: PeterPrinciple
I thought it was called “constitutional carry”

"Constitutional Carry" is the unrestricted carry of a firearm as guaranteed by your natural rights.

Open Carry is just a mode of transporting your firearm... "Unrestricted"

49 posted on 03/22/2011 3:07:08 PM PDT by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: AvOrdVet
Not really, you gotta remember Glocks are one of the "popular" guns

With gun owners, yes.

Non-gun owners, not so much.

That's just a theory.....don't mean to get anything started;-)
50 posted on 03/22/2011 3:16:32 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (For the first time in my adult life, I'm scared of my government.)
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To: Travis McGee
It may be contitutionally the best thing since sliced bread, but tactically, it’s stupid to warn an enemy to get out of pistol range and kill you from ambush or long range.

And yet you cannot cite any examples of this!
51 posted on 03/22/2011 3:17:44 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (For the first time in my adult life, I'm scared of my government.)
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To: Travis McGee

LOL! Too rich.

All hypotheticals!

In the age of the internet, surely you can find one example of an OC case paralleling one of your examples.


52 posted on 03/22/2011 3:19:27 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (For the first time in my adult life, I'm scared of my government.)
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To: Travis McGee
I don’t want constantly be looking behind me.

Experts will tell you take if you are carrying at all (OC or CC), situational awareness is important. Knowing what is around you at all times. A fairly athletic teen can rush you from 21 feet faster than most people could draw. Saying you do not want to be nothered to be aware of what is behind you is a mystery to me if you are as serious as you make it sound in your posts.

Even if I CC I am cognizant of what is behind me. But hey, that's just me. And no ninja powers involved. That was a silly thing to say in the first place.
53 posted on 03/22/2011 3:24:18 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (For the first time in my adult life, I'm scared of my government.)
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54 posted on 03/22/2011 3:40:02 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Travis McGee

Congratulations! McGee BTT.


55 posted on 03/22/2011 3:44:58 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Travis McGee
As for examples, you are I hope aware that many cops are killed with their own pistols? I don’t think a civilian will be less prone to having his plain-view uber-pistol heisted than a uniformed cop. And it happens to them all the time.

Where cops walk patrols, I do not need to.

One of the first rules of staying safe is staying away from where the BG's are if possible. Cops cannot do that, hence the takeaways that sometimes happen.

But show me where that happens with OCers.
56 posted on 03/22/2011 3:46:47 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (For the first time in my adult life, I'm scared of my government.)
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To: Travis McGee
I’ll keep mine concealed, thanks.

As will I. But, I would like the option to open carry.

57 posted on 03/22/2011 3:46:47 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Travis McGee
Another addendum to my prior post on being OC bushwacked...the way police sometimes are. You walk into a crowd of people you can’t shoot, they turn aggressive while bumping you, and somebody grabs your OC pistol. Ask OC cops if this scenario worries them. It sure does, and for good reason: it happens!

I've got some personal experience that agrees... way back in a former life I was a Coastie, and conducted many boardings of vessels large and small. Mostly large. I was always hyper-aware, wearing a .45 on my hip in a regular leather thumb-strap holster. There's no such thing as "personal space". We were just by nature always in very close quarters with civilians at our elbows constantly.

There's few things as unsettling as going down a ladder through a hatch into a dark space, where the gun is the first thing after my feet to go into the space. Both hands are busy on the ladder... anybody down there that wanted that gun could probably take it if they were quick enough. It never happened to anybody I know, but I still hated that part.

I kept saying over and over that we needed to adopt a shoulder rig, as it's just inherently more secure for weapons-retention. It fell on deaf ears, unfortunately.

58 posted on 03/22/2011 4:11:59 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Darth Reardon

LOL! Boy is that ever the truth!

And it isn’t a “going to” situation, I’m sure it already has.


59 posted on 03/22/2011 4:30:28 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Travis McGee

Is there going to be a signed pre-order opportunity for FReepers?


60 posted on 03/22/2011 4:39:09 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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