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Muni Bond Fundamentals are 'Horrifying': Bond Manager
CNBC ^ | 15 Mar 2011 | Gennine Kelly

Posted on 03/16/2011 8:05:57 PM PDT by george76

"Fundamentals are horrifying: unfunded pension liability [is] growing from $7 trillion this year to $11 trillion next year to $15 trillion in two years. Health care costs going up at 9 percent a year, inability to raise taxes ... headline risk is predominant," Albrycht said.

"You need to have aggressive reform, like we are seeing in New Jersey. You need to have governments dealing with the situation, like we're seeing in Wisconsin and Illinois," he added.

If over the next 24 months there is not pension reform, the munis are in trouble, Albrycht went on to say. "13 states right now ... are insolvent, they’re taking in less than they’re paying out.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Illinois; US: Nevada; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bond; default; economy; munibond; municipal; municipalbondmarket; municipalbonds; wisconsinshowdown

1 posted on 03/16/2011 8:06:03 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Don’t worry. Obama will nationalize muni bonds...and nationalize local government employees too. all will be well


2 posted on 03/16/2011 8:09:42 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: george76
"You need to have aggressive reform, ... , like we're seeing in ... Illinois,"

Illinois?! Raising taxes is only going to make the mess worse.

3 posted on 03/16/2011 8:11:41 PM PDT by mlocher (Is it time to cash in before I am taxed out?)
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To: george76
However, if the worst does happen at the state level, the federal government will step in

We are toast....

4 posted on 03/16/2011 8:14:17 PM PDT by mlocher (Is it time to cash in before I am taxed out?)
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To: george76

Didn’t Meredith Whitney just say this 2 months ago about the coming flood of Muni defaults - not states but cities and counties.

We can call this confirmation.


5 posted on 03/16/2011 9:02:49 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Don't confuse Obama's evil for incompetence.)
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To: rabscuttle385; TigerLikesRooster

Ping

TLR, are you doing ok?


6 posted on 03/16/2011 9:53:21 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: george76

All of us here need to get rid of our man servants. Get your own peanut butter and grape jelly samwiches.


7 posted on 03/16/2011 10:16:05 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: george76
Along the same lines, at the state level . .

The Winner of This Year’s Daily Reckoning Dodo Derby

States only wish they could print money like the feds do. Thankfully, they can't

8 posted on 03/16/2011 10:41:48 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: george76

Bump


9 posted on 03/16/2011 10:44:44 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: All; george76
San Diego was dubbed Enron By The Sea because of unfunded pension liabilities.

That was 2004. We're still battling for pension reform.

What should've acted as a bell weather warning to other municipalities fell on deaf ears. Those lessons were not learned.

10 posted on 03/17/2011 12:53:20 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama, recreating-in-chief until Fri, Jan. 20, 2017.)
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To: newzjunkey

Don’t expect any meaningful action anywhere until a major governmental unit goes belly up.


11 posted on 03/17/2011 1:14:59 AM PDT by monocle
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To: george76
If over the next 24 months there is not pension reform, the munis are in trouble

So they are safe now?
12 posted on 03/17/2011 3:39:18 AM PDT by Son House (Finally, People Lie, Because They Feel If They Tell The Truth, They Won't Get What They Want.)
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To: mlocher

Illinois has the wrong solution, but at least it acknowledges that it has to deal with the problem. That’s more creditworthy than the Republicans who passed Medicare Part D with no clue how to fund it.


13 posted on 03/17/2011 3:54:17 AM PDT by only1percent
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To: Son House

Munis are “safe” in the near term because very few general obligation bonds are at risk of near-term payment default, because of inability to make interest payments, or to refinance maturities.

A few years out, it gets worse: as the “hump” of retirees approaches, the munipal bond market will start to demand higher interest rates for new long-dated municipals, and might eventually refuse to buy them at any price. This will drive interest expenses higher and weighted average maturities shorter, and eventually some municipalities will hae payment defaults, and many others will face terrible choices in terms of budget cuts and tax increases.


14 posted on 03/17/2011 3:57:45 AM PDT by only1percent
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