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Boy Genius ... Mark Steyn
Steyn Online ^ | 15 March 2011 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 03/16/2011 2:31:24 AM PDT by Rummyfan

Should western governments describe “honor killings” or female genital mutilation as “barbaric”? The son of the late Canadian colossus Pierre Trudeau thinks such terms have unfortunate pejorative overtones:

Liberal MP Justin Trudeau said the government should not call honour killings “barbaric” in a study guide for would-be Canadian citizens…

“There’s nothing that the word ‘barbaric’ achieves that the words ’absolutely unacceptable’ would not have achieved,” Trudeau, the Liberal immigration critic, said.

“We accept that these acts are absolutely unacceptable. That’s not the debate. In casual conversation, I’d even use the word barbaric to describe female circumcision, for example, but in an official Government of Canada publication, there needs to be a little bit of an attempt at responsible neutrality.”

I suppose one should be relieved that he absolutely accepts that it’s absolutely unacceptable. The trouble is, as your average honor killer or clitoridectomist around the planet well understands, “absolutely unacceptable” is Liberal Weeniepants-speak for “we entirely accept it”. Last month:

Libya Must Stop ‘Unacceptable Bloodshed’ Now: Hillary Clinton

This month:

Obama Warns Violence By Libya Government ‘Unacceptable’

Alas, all this absolutely unacceptable unacceptableness is spreading. Secretary Clinton on Bahrain:

We do not want to see any violence. We deplore it. We think it is absolutely unacceptable.

When a western politician says something’s “unacceptable”, the rest of the planet understands it means “carry on until it drops off the front page, and I no longer have to talk about it”. Justin Trudeau’s observation is characteristically moronic – whoops, I mean “absolutely unacceptable”.

[UPDATE: When you're in a clitoridectomy clinic, stop digging: M Trudeau has now clarified that, by "absolutely unacceptable", he means "totally unacceptable".]


TOPICS: Canada; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: barbaric; canada; femalemutilation; genitalmutilation; honorkillings; justintrudeau; liberals; liberalspeak; marksteyn; steyn; trudeau; unacceptable; waronterror

1 posted on 03/16/2011 2:31:29 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

Savage.


2 posted on 03/16/2011 2:35:57 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: JLS

Ping!


3 posted on 03/16/2011 2:40:57 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Rummyfan

This is why people cuss...to make their point. How about, “If you do it again, I’m going to come to your house and burn it down with your wife and kids inside?”


4 posted on 03/16/2011 2:48:43 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: Rummyfan
Oh those silly morally relativistic Lefties—now they are defining barbarity down.

Can't wait til they start on sadistic--perhaps renaming it "uncalled for buzz killing."

5 posted on 03/16/2011 2:50:13 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Only God has more power than the Second Amendment to save America.")
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To: Rummyfan

What does Mr.Pearl say about all this???????


6 posted on 03/16/2011 3:29:11 AM PDT by Waco (From Seward to Sara)
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To: Rummyfan

Another useful idiot for the muslims in their quest to destroy freedom and liberty


7 posted on 03/16/2011 3:44:45 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA
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To: Rummyfan

Justin Trudeau: Heredity or environment?


8 posted on 03/16/2011 3:48:19 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (I disagree with what you say but will defend to the death your right to say it -Voltaire)
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To: Rummyfan

No, I’m not a neutered weenie with no b@lls whatsoever.

I’m an insufficiently maled non-female.


9 posted on 03/16/2011 3:51:52 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Rummyfan
“There’s nothing that the word ‘barbaric’ achieves that the words ’absolutely unacceptable’ would not have achieved,” Trudeau, the Liberal immigration critic, said.

No, Trudeau, you moron, "absolutely unacceptable" doesn't go far enough because it doesn't describe why: because these actions lie completely outside the confines of civilized behavior; that is, they are typical of the behavior of barbarians, people whose ethics and ways of life are inimical to our Western civilization. No matter how anthropologists may map them onto civilized society as "functional equivalents," they aren't equivalent.
10 posted on 03/16/2011 3:59:20 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Rummyfan

Another worthless scumbag leftist. I bet the underpants on the head at Gitmo was “barbic” though.

Make a mass murderer mildly uncomfortable and the leftist vermin will scream moral indignation to the sky. Mutilate or slaughter an innocent Arab girl and the leftist vermin will find it mildly distasteful.


11 posted on 03/16/2011 4:04:39 AM PDT by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: Rummyfan

Another worthless scumbag leftist. I bet the underpants on the head at Gitmo was “barbaric” though.

Make a mass murderer mildly uncomfortable and the leftist vermin will scream moral indignation to the sky. Mutilate or slaughter an innocent Arab girl and the leftist vermin will find it mildly distasteful.


12 posted on 03/16/2011 4:04:52 AM PDT by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: Rummyfan

A facilitator of barbarism.


13 posted on 03/16/2011 4:11:52 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Gene Eric

(***Jesus***)

My favorite tag line and my friend.


14 posted on 03/16/2011 4:17:43 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: Rummyfan

Absolutely unexceptionable.


15 posted on 03/16/2011 4:20:41 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: aruanan

“There’s nothing that the word “barbaric” achieves that the words “absolutely unacceptable” would not have achieved...”

Absolutely unacceptable is urinating in the sink. Barbaric is stoning some woman who went out of her house without a male escort. Barbaric is cutting someone’s head off while calling them an “Infidel”. Barbaric is hijacking planes and crashing them into a building killing innocent people. There is power in words and phrases. Barbaric is the “nicest” word to describe the radical Islamists. IMHO


16 posted on 03/16/2011 4:50:45 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Rummyfan
there needs to be a little bit of an attempt at responsible neutrality

And there's the problem: "responsible" neutrality. In fact, young Trudeau is engaging in irresponsible neutrality or perhaps better put, pathological neutrality. Sometimes barbaric IS an appropriate modifier.

17 posted on 03/16/2011 5:50:04 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just restock [chg'd to comply w/ The Civility in Discourse Act of 2011])
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To: aruanan

Re post 10, good post. But what do you do when your fellow countrymen insist on electing morons?


18 posted on 03/16/2011 5:50:41 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: TheOldLady; Rummyfan; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; ...

Mark Steyn ping.

Freepmail me, if you want on or off the Mark Steyn ping list.

Thanks for the ping slings and arrows.


19 posted on 03/16/2011 7:25:48 AM PDT by JLS (Democrats: People who won't even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day.)
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To: momtothree

Over use of the concept of barbaric is unacceptable.


20 posted on 03/16/2011 7:31:04 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Rummyfan

Note to Justin:

Barbaric works for me, savage is quite a bit better. But I am American and you’re not.

So....


21 posted on 03/16/2011 7:43:00 AM PDT by texmexis best
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To: JLS

Political correctness: the grease on the skids to dhimmitude.


22 posted on 03/16/2011 7:44:32 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Rummyfan

We accept that these acts are absolutely unacceptable, but by lack of action to stop them, we accept them.

So let’s not call these actions barbaric, lest we see that we accept barbarism.


23 posted on 03/16/2011 8:36:02 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Rummyfan

Trudeau, for all his liberal past, will at least consider criticism of immigration policy. But the word “barbaric” applies to behavior of a people whose practices are outside the norms of a decent, civilized society, generally characterized by violence, brutality, and a lack of regard for those members of a society not strong enough to defend themselves. The word is absolutely accurate. The practice is disgusting and its practitioners, barbarians.


24 posted on 03/16/2011 8:47:16 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: spodefly

Nicely said!


25 posted on 03/16/2011 8:49:05 AM PDT by maica ( It is better to trust in the LORD Than to put confidence in man.)
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To: Billthedrill

Trudeau, for all his liberal past, will at least consider criticism of immigration policy.

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In Canadaspeak, the “immigration critic” is the Member of Parliament of the party not in power but involved with immigration issues. Our equivalent would be the minority ‘ranking member’ of a committee - the head of the committee would be titled Chairman and would belong to the party in power.


26 posted on 03/16/2011 8:53:33 AM PDT by maica ( It is better to trust in the LORD Than to put confidence in man.)
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To: Rummyfan
[UPDATE: When you're in a clitoridectomy clinic, stop digging: M Trudeau has now clarified that, by "absolutely unacceptable", he means "totally unacceptable".]

LOL. what a weeniepants!

27 posted on 03/16/2011 8:56:59 AM PDT by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Re post 10, good post. But what do you do when your fellow countrymen insist on electing morons?

Emigrate.

28 posted on 03/16/2011 9:01:41 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Re post 10, good post. But what do you do when your fellow countrymen insist on electing morons?

Emigrate.

29 posted on 03/16/2011 9:01:55 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: maica

Ah, thanks for that clarification. I may have been reading too much into his opposition (such as it was) to Quebec nationalism.


30 posted on 03/16/2011 9:03:39 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

I just learned on a recent trip to Canada that the second generation of Trudeaux (sic - a little French humor) has been elected to national office. As a member of the Liberal party, he probably is in opposition to a more conservative immigration policy (if there is such a thing) of the Conservative Party, in power now.

The stories that I have heard about the indiscriminate acceptance of ‘new Canadians’ are really bad - lots with TB, Hep B and C, etc.


31 posted on 03/16/2011 9:51:41 AM PDT by maica ( It is better to trust in the LORD Than to put confidence in man.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...
son of the late Canadian colossus Pierre Trudeau... Liberal MP Justin Trudeau said the government should not call honour killings "barbaric"... "There's nothing that the word 'barbaric' achieves that the words 'absolutely unacceptable' would not have achieved... We accept that these acts are absolutely unacceptable. That's not the debate. In casual conversation, I'd even use the word barbaric to describe female circumcision, for example, but in an official Government of Canada publication, there needs to be a little bit of an attempt at responsible neutrality."
Incoherent babble by a second-gen career lib. Thanks Rummyfan.


32 posted on 03/16/2011 3:02:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: momtothree
"Absolutely unacceptable is urinating in the sink..."

Well, at least I'm not 'barbaric.'

33 posted on 03/16/2011 3:05:58 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Rummyfan

Maybe the should just get Hans Blix to write a letter of complaint.


34 posted on 03/16/2011 3:10:37 PM PDT by Fledermaus (As long as John Boehner is Speaker, conservatives are screwed. He's a coward and a crybaby.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

“... at least I’m not “barbaric”.

LOL! You have better manners than that! You remove the dishes and pots first. ((( giggle giggle)))


35 posted on 03/16/2011 3:30:46 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: Rummyfan

“UPDATE: When you’re in a clitoridectomy clinic, stop digging”

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There is something terribly wrong with this sentence, with all due respect to Mr. Steyn.

Although, knowing his genius, he may have meant that. :)


36 posted on 03/16/2011 7:24:49 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (To paraphrase Sarah Palin: I love when the liberals get all wee-wee'd up.)
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To: proud American in Canada

““UPDATE: When you’re in a clitoridectomy clinic, stop digging”

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There is something terribly wrong with this sentence, with all due respect to Mr. Steyn.

Although, knowing his genius, he may have meant that. :)”

It never occurred to me he DIDN’T mean it to be a terrible sentence, conveying a terrible image image—it’s just not as terrible as passively accepting clitoridectomies.


37 posted on 03/17/2011 7:27:53 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (Seek you first the kingdom of God, and all things will be given to you.)
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