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Miami-Dade voters remove Mayor Carlos Alvarez
AP/YahooNews ^ | 3/15/11

Posted on 03/15/2011 8:21:04 PM PDT by Kartographer

Mayor Carlos Alvarez was ousted Tuesday by voters angry over a property tax rate increase and salary raise for county employees in a county struggling to recover from the recession.

With 100 percent of precinct votes counted, 88 percent voted to oust the mayor, making Miami-Dade the most populous area, with more than 2.5 million people, ever to recall a local official. Just 12 percent of the 204,500 who cast ballots were in favor of allowing Alvarez to finish his second term, which ends in 2012.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: alvarez; dade; fl; florida; miami
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To: gleeaikin

There has been a state income tax in NJ for as long as I can remember; I don’t know when it went into effect. Florida’s lack of a state income tax is a main reason why many people (military personnel, professional athletes, even Rush Limbaugh) “officially” live in Florida. Rush got into a spat with the governor of NY, who said we didn’t need him up here; he now broadcasts from Florida, and took those millions in NYC and NY State income taxes with him (yes, NYC has an income tax - and they did need him).

As I understand it only part of Florida is impacted by hurricanes.


51 posted on 03/16/2011 3:59:53 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: GeronL
This is FloriDUH after all

That has gotten so old. The reason Florida has gotten that reputation is because of former NEW YORKERS....

52 posted on 03/16/2011 4:43:31 AM PDT by Paradox (Matthews has the emotional equilibrium of a pregnant, gambling chihuahua on meth.)
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To: AntiScumbag

It’s still corporate welfare.


53 posted on 03/16/2011 5:16:56 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (When you buy stocks, you're betting on Bernanke)
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To: AntiScumbag
I was a Marlins season ticket holder from 1993 - 2002 (when we moved out of Florida). I was there when Charlie Hough threw the first pitch, and when Edgar Martinez stroked that bloop single against the Indians in the eleventh.

And I'm quite sure that they'll never draw that many fans to the new stadium. Close to half the crowd I usually sat with (section 452, upstairs behind the plate right on the railing, best seats in the house) was from central and western Broward. They are not going to spend 50-70 minutes each way going to the ball park 4-5 nights a week.

It would have made far more sense to build the stadium out on I-75 where it would have been easy to get to from anywhere.

54 posted on 03/16/2011 5:27:17 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (When you buy stocks, you're betting on Bernanke)
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...

Florida Freeper


55 posted on 03/16/2011 5:29:51 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Kartographer

Thank God.


56 posted on 03/16/2011 5:42:53 AM PDT by sport
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To: winstonwolf33
Alvarez maintained throughout the recall effort that raising taxes was necessary to fill a $444 million gap and avoid cuts to critical social services welfare whores and unproductive government workers .

That's what he meant.

57 posted on 03/16/2011 5:50:36 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Just his name sickens me. An ex New Yorker


58 posted on 03/16/2011 5:52:47 AM PDT by italianquaker (Maobama)
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To: Paradox

Yep. I lived in Florida for 14 years. Not a bad place except for the transplanted New Yorkers stinking up the place. Thankfully there aren’t enough of them to turn the place into Queens-on-the-St.-Johns.


59 posted on 03/16/2011 5:53:30 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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To: AntiScumbag

You have GOT to be a writer.

That was well written!


60 posted on 03/16/2011 5:57:19 AM PDT by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: Tzimisce

Getting rid of a RINO is as important and satisfying as unhorsing a demrat. This is a win-win for Tea Party conservatives.


61 posted on 03/16/2011 7:26:14 AM PDT by dools0007world
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To: Paradox

Amish New Yorkers?


62 posted on 03/16/2011 7:30:59 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

that was said of clinton also.

we have a weak GOP line up. we have huskster collecting emails and phone numbers via his “voice petition” obamacare scam. The MSM is going to foist a bob dole or mccain on us via an open primary.


63 posted on 03/16/2011 8:06:49 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: AntiScumbag

I was gonna apologize after being informed by someone I trust that frantzie is a bit of a rabble rouser his-herself but I see you live to flame given your last half dozen posts here.

but..that last was witty on Yankees fan....I’ll give you that.

but you gotta be a yankee yourself...sweet irony no?


64 posted on 03/16/2011 8:13:07 AM PDT by wardaddy (FUHB)
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To: Thane_Banquo

It is not just New Yorkers...where I live everyone is from Romneyville...


65 posted on 03/16/2011 8:44:30 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: NowApproachingMidnight

On your Profile you fly the Flag of New York!
We will keep Senator Marco Rubio where WE want him. Unless he runs for POTUS!!!
You, maybe, should pay more attention to New York’s Slimy politics and Slimy Politicians.We got rid of Crist and soon will boot Bill Nelson. Maybe you should oust a few Charlie Rangels.
You might also try to replace that midget Bloomberg and keep him out of other state’s business; ie, GUNS!
Have a nice day, Yank.


66 posted on 03/16/2011 8:58:03 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (Flush Congress in 2010 & 2012)
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To: Paradox

“former NEW YORKERS” and MASSHOLES too.


67 posted on 03/16/2011 9:02:19 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: Notary Sojac
It’s still corporate welfare.

Well, certainly, at least to some very limited extent, it is. I would have preferred that Loria (and his co-owners) pay for the whole thing. As it turns out, they will actually retire about $150 million of the debt via rent. About 1/3rd. Not an insignificant portion.

But, they won't be paying for the whole thing. They should be, but they're not. So, what?

It was done according to the laws in existence and with the acquiescence of the elected politicians.

Much as I'd like to impose my personal or Norman Braman's preferences, I can't do that. If the people of Miami-Dade think it was a bad deal, they have only themselves to blame, they elected those who agreed to it. So it goes.

68 posted on 03/16/2011 9:32:34 AM PDT by AntiScumbag
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To: AntiScumbag
Hey, you're the one who projected that

it is likely that the joint will be completely sold out for the entire 2012 season

So, we'll have to wait and see if they are able to make Bosox or Cubs style sellout numbers.

What have the Marlins management said lately about the team? Are they still promising that a new stadium will mean they can maintain a competitive payroll?

Remember that Pittsburgh and Cleveland and Milwaukee were promised the same thing.

Please respond without a chip on your shoulder if possible, I have not taken any shots at you in this thread.

71 posted on 03/16/2011 10:50:59 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (When you buy stocks, you're betting on Bernanke)
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To: Kartographer

Take a lesson Gov. MoonBeam.... or are his Kookifornicata constituents so leftist over the edge it doesn’t matter how much Ca. taxes get raised.


72 posted on 03/16/2011 10:59:46 AM PDT by tflabo
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To: Notary Sojac

Are you really as ignorant as you appear to be?

2012 ticket sales are what they are. On fire. As opposed to your blathering that “I’m quite sure that they’ll never draw that many fans to the new stadium” delusion, which is based on precisely nothing.

2012 will be sold out. I’ve already stated what I think will happen thereafter. The Marlins will be a middle-of-the-MLB-range payroll team.

What “Pittsburgh and Cleveland and Milwaukee” were “told” by whoever is of zero significance. It’s also not my problem that you’re stuck in some sort of football stadium time-warp.


73 posted on 03/16/2011 11:32:30 AM PDT by AntiScumbag
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To: AntiScumbag

You need to check your morning cornflakes FRiend. Make sure what got poured in there is, in fact, milk.


74 posted on 03/16/2011 12:52:14 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (When you buy stocks, you're betting on Bernanke)
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To: Notary Sojac

That’s it? You have no further defense of your off-the-wall conjecture that “I’m quite sure that they’ll never draw that many fans to the new stadium”?

Why am I not surprised.


75 posted on 03/16/2011 3:47:08 PM PDT by AntiScumbag
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To: Frantzie

I tell Ileana off via fax, phone calls and letters on a regular basis.


76 posted on 03/16/2011 5:09:31 PM PDT by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: AntiScumbag

lol..you remind me of no pardons


77 posted on 03/16/2011 5:24:28 PM PDT by wardaddy (FUHB)
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To: kearnyirish2; AeroFANatic; Ex-NewYorker; Jacvin; neilevan; P. J. F.; proudcitizenbychoice; ...
South Florida Ping here.

Also read here:

Miami-Dade Mayor Recalled, Candidates Jockey for Positionhttp://shark-tank.net/?p=12331

78 posted on 03/16/2011 7:09:30 PM PDT by seekthetruth (My Dream Ticket For 2012: "Allen West / Scott Walker")
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To: AntiScumbag

Learn to keep the electronic equivalent of a civil tongue, and you’ll get more replies to your posts.


79 posted on 03/17/2011 6:48:01 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (When you buy stocks, you're betting on Bernanke)
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To: Notary Sojac

You don’t get it.

I couldn’t care less about replies, I make my points and that’s that. My query was rhetorical. Too bad that you have nothing better to support your conjecture than a lame ad hominem.

Beyond that, I have no particular interest in being “civil” as you call it, I’d rather that morons who don’t have any idea what they’re talking think twice before they post their drivel lest they be made to look like an idiot.


80 posted on 03/17/2011 7:40:48 AM PDT by AntiScumbag
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