Posted on 02/04/2011 1:26:35 PM PST by PhilosopherStone1000
OK, we have seen the DumbO administration give exemptions to friends and contributors for Dumb0Care. We have also just seen Dumb0 give General Electric an exemption from EPA gas house emissions regulations. While this obviously smacks of tyranny, by what article of the Constitution or which amendment would it be possible for someone to take a suit to the SCOTUS?
14th equal protection clause? Bill of attainder and ex-post facto don't cover it.
I've been thinking about this and am stumped. While we correctly admire the US Constitution, it fundamentally rests on principles which are prior to it, namely that, to avoid tyranny, laws must apply equally to all. It also seems bizarre to believe that somehow prior to the 14th amendment something like the Dumb0 exemptions would have been legal but illegal afterwords. Just can't believe that the founders would have accepted something like this.
Anywho, if anyone has an idea, please share it with the class.
I've been around a while but I've never seen anything like what this bunch is pulling.
They do seem to be operating with impunity. Time to water the tree of liberty...
Well if McDonald’s gets a waiver and Burger King doesn’t, they certainly have grounds for a suit. But how that suit gets to the SCOTUS and which grounds will get it their I don’t know.
I know that there is SCOTUS precedent for striking down laws as unconstitutional even if they are not prima facea unconstitutional as written, but which can’t be implemented without violating the constitution - say, a law which is so vague that it can’t be implemented without violating the 14th.
Not sure where that leads.
I’ve asked myself the same question over the tax structure. Does “equal protection” mean “equal treatment”? If it does, how can any “non flat” tax system be ruled constitutional?
All political power comes from the barrel of a gun.
Waivers are written into the law. If you can find an entity that applied for a waiver and did not recieve it, then can prove that there is an illegal reason for the denial you will have something.
That is what I want to know. Why are some dollars more equal than others?
In some places it looks like it comes from a few thrown rocks. I think the time is fast approaching to see what it takes to make this crew blink. Right now all we are getting is a finger in reply to a court rulling.
No, this reeks of corruption. This is a presidency that is not for sale only because it has already been bought.
I don’t remember seeing that. From what I’ve seen in practice, the waivers are granted without any guidelines for who qualifies or not.
Plus that doesn’t account for the EPA-GE exemption as far as I know.
I believe that in this case, corruption is subordinate to the tyranny. Kings used to pass laws and then allow fellow aristocrats (but not us peons) to flout them.
Precisely what is happening here.
Think corruption
Hamid Karzi is a piker compared to Barack Obama
I’m sure the graduated income tax fell under the “general welfare” clause. Note that I’m not agreeing, merely trying to answer your question.
Thank you Chairman Mao! (not that I’m disagreeing with him or you).
Jared Loughner is that you?
The most powerful weapon in the arsenal of the federal bureaucrat, or any bureaucrat anywhere at any time, is the authority to grant an exception!
See post 17. You must be too young to remember the Little Red Book....
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