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Egypt Protests Show George W. Bush Was Right About Freedom in the Arab World
The Washington Post ^ | Friday, January 28, 2011 | Eliott Abrams

Posted on 01/28/2011 6:29:12 PM PST by kristinn

"Are the peoples of the Middle East somehow beyond the reach of liberty? Are millions of men and women and children condemned by history or culture to live in despotism? Are they alone never to know freedom and never even to have a choice in the matter?"... "Sixty years of Western nations excusing and accommodating the lack of freedom in the Middle East did nothing to make us safe - because in the long run, stability cannot be purchased at the expense of liberty," Bush said. "As long as the Middle East remains a place where freedom does not flourish, it will remain a place of stagnation, resentment and violence ready for export."

...But the revolt in Tunisia, the gigantic wave of demonstrations in Egypt and the more recent marches in Yemen all make clear that Bush had it right - and that the Obama administration's abandonment of this mind-set is nothing short of a tragedy.

U.S. officials talked to Mubarak plenty in 2009 and 2010, and even talked to the far more repressive President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, but they talked about their goals for Israeli-Palestinian peace and ignored the police states outside the doors of those presidential palaces. When the Iranian regime stole the June 2009 elections and people went to the streets, the Obama administration feared that speaking out in their support might jeopardize the nuclear negotiations. The "reset" sought with Russia has been with Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, not the Russian people suffering his increasingly despotic and lawless rule.

This has been the greatest failure of policy and imagination in the administration's approach: Looking at the world map, it sees states and their rulers, but has forgotten the millions of people suffering under and beginning to rebel against those rulers....

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KEYWORDS: abrams; arabworld; bush43; egypt; egyptriots
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A different take on this week's events.
1 posted on 01/28/2011 6:29:16 PM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Elliot Abrams is an idiot... Democracy in the Arab World will only bring Islamists to power. Its not freedom and Coca Cola they want!


2 posted on 01/28/2011 6:35:31 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: kristinn

The WashPost must be pretty darn dumb if they think the new government is going to be more free


3 posted on 01/28/2011 6:36:08 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.stink-eye.net/forum/index.php)
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To: kristinn
I'm going to hold any comment on this for the moment, until I get more information (The Dali Obama already has it).

Who's behind these protests? Is it a group wanting to form an Iraqi style democracy? Or is the The Muslim Brotherhood fermenting revolt to form a Taliban or al Q type of muslim kingdom?

4 posted on 01/28/2011 6:36:41 PM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: kristinn

Freedom and Islam are incompatible.


5 posted on 01/28/2011 6:37:17 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: goldstategop

Which, of course, brings and immediate death to anything resembling democratic governing.


6 posted on 01/28/2011 6:37:53 PM PST by edpc (It's Kräusened)
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To: kristinn

I hope so, but I’ll comment in a couple of years, let’s see who takes power first.


7 posted on 01/28/2011 6:38:01 PM PST by mewykwistmas ("Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge even where there is no river. ")
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To: kristinn

It was the intention of W’s administration to change the dynamic in the Middle east to make democracy possible. No question about it.


8 posted on 01/28/2011 6:38:35 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: goldstategop

Read Isaiah 19:1-4...quite interesting.


9 posted on 01/28/2011 6:38:52 PM PST by native texan (Texas seafood is great)
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To: Owl_Eagle

You can be sure that whatever the intention of the protesters, if the MB rides this wave to power, Egypt will be a radical Islamic state. Maybe not this year but sometime in this decade it will happen.


10 posted on 01/28/2011 6:39:07 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: kristinn
This has been the greatest failure of policy and imagination in the administration's approach: Looking at the world U.S. map, it sees states and their rulers, but has forgotten the millions of people suffering under and beginning to rebel against those rulers....

Fixed it for Elliott.

11 posted on 01/28/2011 6:39:31 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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“A different take on this week’s events.”

Did you catch Savage’s take on this?
He compares it to the radical Muslims taking control of Iran, and creating a disaster.


12 posted on 01/28/2011 6:39:38 PM PST by AlexW
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To: goldstategop

Exactly.

Even the protests were full of barbarians calling out the same Islamic war cries that the terrorists call out.

This is just another attempt to raise a Muslim caliphate.


13 posted on 01/28/2011 6:39:53 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: goldstategop; T.L.Sink
"Eliot Abrams is an idiot"

Eliot Abrams is an idiot NeoCon

14 posted on 01/28/2011 6:39:59 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: kristinn

What freedom? These rioters are comminist-socialists at best. At worst and most probably they are hardcore Islamists.
That is a kind of freedom Iran got expelling Shah. Waiting for a US embassy to burn.
I certainly prefer an Arab world opressed by moderate dictators. Their societies are a pots of snakes, they yet to learn how to handle libertiess.


15 posted on 01/28/2011 6:40:42 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Owl_Eagle

I’m withholding comment for the same reason. The media likes to throw around the “Muslim Brotherhood” threat, but I’ve seen little detailed reporting on who or what the protesters are actually protesting and/or supporting.


16 posted on 01/28/2011 6:41:23 PM PST by Cherokee Conservative (If a tree falls over in the woods, and then snaps back upright as a joke, do the squirrels laugh?)
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To: kristinn
I haven't heard anyone in the media say that "We have lost Egypt and it is George Bush's fault" but I do expect to hear that. Two years into Obama's term, we get unexpected bad news from a formerly stable ME nation, and I fully expect the talking heads to try to pin it on Bush.

But, as far as I can see, the meltdown in Egypt and the takeover by the Muslim Brotherhood is exactly what Obama wants.

17 posted on 01/28/2011 6:41:41 PM PST by ClearCase_guy ("Borrowing a trillion is compassionate, cutting a billion is heartless." -- VDH)
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To: kristinn

“Mubarak took the same tack for three decades. Ruling under an endless emergency law, he has crushed the moderate opposition while the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood has thrived underground and in the mosques. Mubarak in effect created a two-party system - his ruling National Democratic Party and the Brotherhood - and then defended the lack of democracy by saying a free election would bring the Islamists to power.”

Too bad so many FReepers are as short sighted as Zero. We musn’t upset the Mullahs, and tin pot dictators. It could be destabilizing.


18 posted on 01/28/2011 6:42:09 PM PST by Smogger
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To: kristinn

Wow the left is in full support radical Islam mode. Call it an uprising of the people instead of an organized effort, decades or centuries old, to establish Islamic states.


19 posted on 01/28/2011 6:43:08 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: goldstategop

I agree. The ME seems only to be capable of a dictatorship or a theocracy.


20 posted on 01/28/2011 6:43:57 PM PST by MagnoliaB
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