"Reclusive, Fanatical Parents to Blame for Massacre?"
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
Parents should share the blame. They and the sheriff knew he was nuts.
I have read that his father is a hothead and mom is a loyal liberal state employee.
If they were such great parents who cared about him so much, how come the did not see he was a whack job..he lived in their home..he had a tent outside their house where he would go pray to a SKULL..I’m supposed to believe they did not know that was going on..and just look at this guy’s mugshot..who smiles in a mugshot when your being charged with 6 counts of murder
Hmmm. I have “neighbors” like this.
I speculate that this County-employee household pulled strings with the Sheriff to “protect” their son, and it backfired.
Lived in the neighborhood for more than 22 years without getting to know any of their neighbors — and then raised an anti-social son ... Imagine that!
Sounds like an entire family of loons.
Now, LOWER MY TAXES.
I feel very bad for them but this has to be one very messed up family situation. Their kid was throwing out signals to everyone who had come into contact with him over the past several months and yet they appear to have been clueless. Maybe they were thinking if they just ignore everything somehow it will all work out.
His mugshot posted today is one of the most disturbing photos I’ve ever seen.
I have three young kids and I couldn’t imagine having something like this on my shoulders. Maybe they could have done something different? Maybe they should have (whatever). All of that has to be going through their minds - and perhaps for good reason. Still, I’d hate to be in their shoes.
Insane my ass!
He was sane enough to get or buy the gun.
He was sane enough to get or buy the ammo.
He was sane enough to load the gun.
He was sane enough to get to the meeting.
He was sane enough to know who to shoot and where to shoot them.
He knew exactly what he was doing and why he was doing it. All of this ,”He is insane”, “He is a nutjob” is just trying to rationalize what he did and get him in a mental hospital like Hinkley.
Alone? Look how much anguish “their boy” created. They are joined by many—those murdered and those left behind to mourn and a country that is being ravaged by hypocrites pointing the blame at innocents.
The sheriff is stirring the pot, which will only create more anguish.
If they were loners, mountain men, and didn’t know their neighbors ... how did the 70 year old neighbor who didn’t know them ... know the father worshipped Jared?
Where did that come from?
These people raised a cold-blooded murderer and I am supposed to have compassion for them? No thanks, I prefer to just let them suffer alone!
Where are Loughner’s high school teachers? Other relatives? Where he worked? The people he volunteered with at that big crossword puzzle? People at the local gas station? Video gamers? People who sell candles & stuff like for what that shrine thingy was. Groups he belonged to. Clothes he bought. Grocery store people. Pharmacists. Anybody.
We have 2 or 3, here and there. The guy with the pink hair, etc.
You would think people in Tucson would be burning up the airwaves. At the places where the parents work, the PTA, etc.
The community college had the parents come in because of his being a violent threat to others.
The kid had skulls and candles in their backyard.
The parents along with Sheriif Dupnic are more to blame than the mentally ill kid.
They could have saved the victims and the kid.
To those of you unsympathetic, if indeed it is the case that he is a schizophrenic, which often evidences itself in the late teens and early 20’s, then I can describe for you what happened.
It starts with a loved one who is good, kind, caring, intelligent and respectful. You raised them as a child and you know who they are. Then, so gradually as to seem natural for a teenager becoming an adult, they start to be a little erratic, perhaps depressed. Things you think are normal for teenagers. It’s a phase.
The first thing that slips away is understanding. You don’t understand them as much as you thought, and they don’t seem to understand you as much. But still, you think it is just their becoming independent, learning how to make their own way in the world, on their own.
Sometimes they are argumentative, sometimes not, it’s just another thing. And things start to build up, but it’s okay, because you love them. Perhaps you worry that they might be using drugs, or hanging out with the wrong crowd.
You are too close to the problem. If they are in school, they start to have problems with learning and getting along. Maybe they just aren’t up for college, or even finishing high school. Perhaps they just have some growing up to do before they can finish their education.
The clinical problems, their isolation, irregular sleep patterns, too much or too little, general unhappiness, these are there, but you may not register them, or not want to register them.
To a stranger, it is obvious that something is very wrong. But to you, denial is easy. How can he be mentally ill and still so functional? He seems to understand. He isn’t violent with you, or not what you think is dangerously so.
This happens a lot. From .3 to .7% of the population, at some point, with 20% of them having it as a permanent condition. This means close to 20 million Americans have schizophrenia to varying degrees.
Perhaps 1 million have the most debilitating and destructive form of the disease, the onset of which is described above.
Almost invariably, their family is pushed to the point where they cannot take it anymore. Usually they kick out the schizophrenic, or the schizophrenic just leaves. This far along, their family writes them off as a tragedy. Most likely they will begin being arrested and released, over and over again, perhaps with some intermittent treatment, but nothing that lasts.
It is cruel as hell. A large percentage end up in prison, where they get little or no treatment, and abundant abuse. Their life is shortened by many years.
"Reclusive, Fanatical Parents to Blame for Massacre?"