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Sheriff Dupnik Pre-Emptively Blaming Sarah Palin Because He Knows True Blame Lay In His Office?
Ace of Spades HQ ^ | 1/10/2011 | Ace

Posted on 01/10/2011 1:57:38 PM PST by Qbert

Hey, is this an unverified report, and am I slandering a man without waiting on evidence and confirmation?

I learned that from the media.

This is the claim. We'll see if it's true.

Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system. It was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County... Every victim of his threats previously must also be wondering if this tragedy could have been prevented if they had been more aggressive in pursuing charges against Mr. Loughner. Perhaps with a felony conviction he would never have been able to lawfully by the Glock 9mm Model 19 that he used to strike down the lives of six people and decimate 14 more..,,

The Pima County Sheriff’s Department was aware of his violent nature and they failed to act appropriately. This tragedy leads right back to Sherriff Dupnik and all the spin in the world is not going to change that fact.

If the basic factual predicate there is true, the motivation and actions alleged make sense -- if you've dropped the ball, badly, and that's led to six murders and multiple grave injuries, damnit, you'd better start soliciting political allies and dreaming up faraway scapegoats.

Corrected: I got confused from the multiple retractions of how many had died and wrote "two." Six were killed, more gravely wounded, and more than that wounded.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: bloggersandpersonal; clarencedupnik; dupnik; freepressforpalin; gabriellegiffords; giffords; jaredloughner; loughner; obama; palin; reichstagfire
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To: HappyWarrior2012
I think so too. If Loughner was "well known" by Dupnik to the point where Dupnik states "he was being managed well bythe mental health system", then Dupnik has access to private psychiatric files. How and why? Obviously the kid didn't appear out of thin air. Dupnik ADMITS to prior knowledge of a kook making threats multiple times. If I made several threats over a period of time, I certainly wouldn't get away with it. The police would be all over me, "crazy" or not.

This is the common denomenator that if followed could unravel the whole Dupnik slander machine and bring the leftist house of cards down.

41 posted on 01/10/2011 3:13:20 PM PST by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: milwguy
The threats weren’t against Giffords, Dupnik said.”

Translation: He didn't threaten any of my allies or benefactors. He only threatened the small people.

This is like the new bill being floated by Democrats to make it a crime to use threatening language or symbols AGAINST CONGRESSMEN OR FEDERAL EMPLOYEES?

Why not make it a crime against everyone? I want to be protected against threatening langauge and symbols, too! Wouldn't you?

Why should only the political class be singled out for this kind of protection?

It seems that this sheriff only protects his fellow Democrats or state employees.

-PJ

42 posted on 01/10/2011 3:22:48 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Qbert; SatinDoll; All
Satindoll, HOW did you ever find this out???

"Jared's dad, Randy Loughner, works for the State of Arizona's Child Protective Services. The authorities have been sticklers for keeping that one under wraps."

43 posted on 01/10/2011 3:23:38 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Someone else here on FR ferreted it out and posted the info.


44 posted on 01/10/2011 3:25:00 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: pops88; FromLori
Did you know:

"Jared's dad, Randy Loughner, works for the State of Arizona's Child Protective Services. The authorities have been sticklers for keeping that one under wraps."

Freeper satindoll just informed me of this in another thread.

45 posted on 01/10/2011 3:25:44 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: HappyWarrior2012

Everyone notice we haven’t heard anything about Jared’s dad?

This popped up on another thread: Randy Loughner works for the State of Arizona’s Child Protective Services. (I don’t know for sure this is true as I’ve no way to verify it.)

The Sheriff may have dropped the ball but not because of mom being a fellow county employee; it may be because of Jared’s dad.


46 posted on 01/10/2011 3:32:25 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Qbert

More on this dangerous faux Sheriff:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2654534/posts?page=1

Gotcha Sheriff Clarence “Jackas*” Dupnik
Market-ticker ^ | 1/10/11 | Karl Denninger

Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 2:14:55 PM by Revel

Oh, you better hope this is not true:

“The sheriff has been editorializing and politicizing the event since he took the podium to report on the incident. His blaming of radio personalities and bloggers is a pre-emptive strike because Mr. Dupnik knows this tragedy lays at his feet and his office. Six people died on his watch and he could have prevented it. He needs to step up and start apologizing to the families of the victims instead of spinning this event to serve his own political agenda.”

What have I been saying? That in point of fact the Sheriff had every opportunity to stop this assault by actually enforcing the law and didn’t do so.
Well now the truth is alleged to be this..... it’s much worse, it appears, than anyone thought:

“Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system. It was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County. Amy Loughner is a Natural Resource specialist for the Pima County Parks and Recreation.”

What’s your response to this Mr. Dupnik? A bit of truth comes out, eh? Exactly how many felonies did you decline to investigate and prosecute? Are you going to slink away from the white-hot light of truth or will you “man up” and admit that your scurrilous allegations were disseminated simply to try to save your own hide from the entirely-appropriate wrath at the ballot box that is certain to ensue come next election?
The suspect didn’t just post one threat on an Internet forum and there wasn’t “just one” incident - it’s alleged here that he made multiple death threats against the staff of the college he was ejected from, radio personalities and local bloggers.
Each and every one of those threats was an offense and had just one of them been prosecuted it would have resulted in the suspect being blacklisted in the NICS database - and thus he would not have been able to buy the gun he shot the people in Tuscon with.

And before you go off on this guy and his blog being some sort of nut, here’s the credentials from his page:

James Kelley is a native of Tucson, born here in 1961. A Navy veteran, he graduated twice from the Defense Language Institute in Monterey CA majoring in Albanian and Persian-Farsi. He was a Balkan area, Middle East North Africa, Southwest Asia, and Gulf Area analyst for the Naval Security Group and the National Security Agency. He received his Bachelor of Science in Sociology from the University of the State of New York, Albany. Since leaving the service he has worked as a premium cruise line representative, telecommunications specialist, real estate broker, and as a substitute teacher in local school districts.

Presently, Mr. Kelley is a contributing columnist for the Arizona News-Telegraph and the Executive Director of SocialNetworkingWatchdog.Org, a 501(c)3 non-profit organization dedicated to educating youth and seniors on personal security while using social networking.

Does Arizona have a recall process for so-called “elected officials” who behave like this and refuse to accept responsibility for their conduct - including but not limited to blaming others for their own failures that result in the death of innocent people? How about some sort of impeachment procedure? If you don’t, you need both - right now.
Best-a-luck in the next election Sheriff.

You’re gonna need it.


47 posted on 01/10/2011 3:35:06 PM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: hennie pennie

No I didn’t know that thanks hp. Boy oh boy the truth is completely different then how the mainstream news and the left portrayed things. That makes me so mad because you know how some people are they believe it because it was reported on TV and I doubt the mainstream news will make corrections.


48 posted on 01/10/2011 3:39:56 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori">)
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To: Qbert
i thought his preemptive attack was a little odd... as in

me doth thinks he protests too much!!!

49 posted on 01/10/2011 3:41:59 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: FromLori
The only thing I'd heard about Jerry Loughner's dad was that he had a terrible temper and tbat he restored classic cars -- well, THAT is obviously a hobby, not his job.

I wonder if we'll learn more about his precise work in Child Protective Services ---- and I'd like to know if he ever tried to get some help for his obviously severely disturbed son??? NO wonder the parents are in "hiding" and won't even make a comment to the survivors of the victims.

Geeeeesh.

50 posted on 01/10/2011 3:57:13 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie
The second the Sheriff gave that enormous rant of his I could see he was being very evasive.

He wanted us to look everywhere but in his office, or among his friends.

Guy was guilty as sin ~ he will need more than a couple of lawyers for this one. Same with a couple of judges who allowed this to slip ~ we just don't know their names but we have a Juran Vander Sloot event underway!

51 posted on 01/10/2011 4:18:37 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I wonder if the sheriff is close friends with Jerry Loughner’s dad — who works in CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES???


52 posted on 01/10/2011 4:21:19 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: SatinDoll

Wow- I hadn’t seen that.

Just curious, this thread (link below), comment 95 appears to have a legitimate Facebook profile that was scrubbed within minutes of the correct spelling of Loughner’s last name...Interestingly, the screenshot (top of page) says that Jared himself “has worked at Child Protective Services”. If this is legit, then did they both work there, or is the father possibly being mixed up with the son?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2653568/posts?page=95#95


53 posted on 01/10/2011 4:33:04 PM PST by Qbert
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To: hennie pennie
The Sheriff has to deal with Judges who are close to the old man (if he's in DHS).

He can't help but know the folks in that organization.

54 posted on 01/10/2011 4:33:54 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: skeeter

“This may explain why the leftwing press is switching their narrative from ‘right wing hate’ to gun control.”

And (correctly) to mental illness, and how the public can be protected from known/suspected violent lunatics, somewhere short of their first mass murder episode.


55 posted on 01/10/2011 4:51:47 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: miss marmelstein
Wow. I generally trust Ace of Spades - we’ll see!

Ditto...love 'Ace of Spades'.

56 posted on 01/10/2011 4:55:00 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: hennie pennie; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ...

Thanks hennie pennie.
57 posted on 01/10/2011 4:58:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: hennie pennie; All

“I wonder if the sheriff is close friends with Jerry Loughner’s dad — who works in CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES???”

—Did Jared also work there, or have some connection to it? (see comment #53)


58 posted on 01/10/2011 4:58:12 PM PST by Qbert
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To: SatinDoll
What do you think of post no. 53 -- someone claims that JARED worked at CPS????

All I can say to that is.....

:::shiver:::

59 posted on 01/10/2011 5:05:23 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Qbert

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Bye sheriff Boobnick, it was nice knowing you!
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60 posted on 01/10/2011 5:05:55 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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